Christian Author Pastor Tim LaHaye

[Keith]

I personally don't know Tim LeHaye as a person, he might be the greatest guy in the world. However, the theology behind his book isn't sound. That is an object truth. Just like the capital of Nebraska is Lincoln, it isn't Omaha. There is a truth behind theology it isn't up for a vote, it isn't what ever each person wants it to be, and it sure isn't based on how good of a book it is.

I watched a 60 minute special on the two authors of this book and the person doing the interview asked them how much money they had made off of these books. All they would do is smile and say, "we really don't know, but we can tell that we have sould millions of copies of these books so that should give you some idea." I don't have a problem with a person making a ligitimate income off of selling books, but I do have a problem with a person misleading people and then making millions of dollars. The question is whether or not the two authors know they are misleading people, or have they bought into this madness, hook, line, and sinker.

I also would like it if they would of said, "we are donating 80% of what we have made to the poor." God has blessed us tremendously and we will share the wealth with the less fortunante.

You can't say that (in bold above) factually. You say that in regards to your own views. According to your views, you don't believe it to be sound. That is your belief, not "object truth." (I believe you meant to say abject truth, as there is no such thing as 'object' truth.) Below is the dictionary meaning of 'abject.' After reading it, are you certain your statement is "abject truth"? By saying that, you are insulting your very own words...

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[RGR]

You sure you want to call me out Trinity?

I think I have stated my views to my satisfaction on LeHaye and Left Behind. You can defend it if you like but your questions are not really relevent to the concerns I have stated.

He's not Jerry Lawler, and you're not Bill Dundee, and we don't "call out" people! He is simply asking for you, in a CONSTRUCTIVE WAY, to speak what you think is wrong, not go on a tirade of why LaHaye is "evil."

[Trinity]

You sure you want to call me out Trinity?

I think I have stated my views to my satisfaction on LeHaye and Left Behind. You can defend it if you like but your questions are not really relevent to the concerns I have stated.

He's not Jerry Lawler, and you're not Bill Dundee, and we don't "call out" people! He is simply asking for you, in a CONSTRUCTIVE WAY, to speak what you think is wrong, not go on a tirade of why LaHaye is "evil."

Thanx

One more thing before you post...

Please be mindfull of the 10th Comandment: "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor "

Meaning if you have no proof keep your lips zipped before Dubbing someone evil

Edited February 7, 2006 by Trinity

[Guest singin_4_christ]

I am wondering if there is anyone that might be able to inform me as to the main part of this conversation

[Trinity]

I am wondering if there is anyone that might be able to inform me as to the main part of this conversation

Ditto

[Pax]

I personally don't know Tim LeHaye as a person, he might be the greatest guy in the world. However, the theology behind his book isn't sound. That is an object truth. Just like the capital of Nebraska is Lincoln, it isn't Omaha. There is a truth behind theology it isn't up for a vote, it isn't what ever each person wants it to be, and it sure isn't based on how good of a book it is.

I watched a 60 minute special on the two authors of this book and the person doing the interview asked them how much money they had made off of these books. All they would do is smile and say, "we really don't know, but we can tell that we have sould millions of copies of these books so that should give you some idea." I don't have a problem with a person making a ligitimate income off of selling books, but I do have a problem with a person misleading people and then making millions of dollars. The question is whether or not the two authors know they are misleading people, or have they bought into this madness, hook, line, and sinker.

I also would like it if they would of said, "we are donating 80% of what we have made to the poor." God has blessed us tremendously and we will share the wealth with the less fortunante.

You can't say that (in bold above) factually. You say that in regards to your own views. According to your views, you don't believe it to be sound. That is your belief, not "object truth." (I believe you meant to say abject truth, as there is no such thing as 'object' truth.) Below is the dictionary meaning of 'abject.' After reading it, are you certain your statement is "abject truth"? By saying that, you are insulting your very own words...

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[Pax]

Questions about your Posts

I However, the theology behind his book isn't sound.

In what ways? May i ask you something, I know your not a Pre-tribber obviously, But who are you to say since i don't believe it, it must not be sound? If i can recall, Pre, Post, Mid, etc... Are all theories, meaning every theory could be wrong, especially yours

I am saying this with no Offence to you...

There is a truth behind theology it isn't up for a vote, it isn't what ever each person wants it to be, and it sure isn't based on how good of a book it is.

Agreed But! who is to say My Theology is right or wrong on the countless theories of the end of the world, which goes with your THEORY also. The only sure Theology is Salvation.

I don't have a problem with a person making a legitimate income off of selling books, but I do have a problem with a person misleading people and then making millions of dollars.

Who are you to Judge his thoughts, legitimacy, and saying he is misleading people? What happens if it turns out the Pre-trib is true? Who would be the one who mislead people on earth, you or him?

The question is whether or not the two authors know they are misleading people, or have they bought into this madness, hook, line, and sinker.

And this... was just wrong...

I also would like it if they would of said, "we are donating 80% of what we have made to the poor." God has blessed us tremendously and we will share the wealth with the less fortunante.

And what if they did? Not only but should every author donate almost everything to the Poor... Did CS Lewis who made Millions? Yet you have no problems with him keeping his money?

I mean nothing against you! I am just warning you, Just because someone doesn't Believe as you on a THEORY JUST AS YOURS IS to just say "their theology behind the book isn't sound." For you are not the judge of that.

I have studied extensively on the Rapture. It is very easy to disprove by using scripture alone. But of course you can also look into the history of the Rapture which also discredits this theory. Trinity you are stuck on this idea that what ever a person wants to believe is o.k. For example lets say a person doesn't believe in the Trinity. Using your logic than this could be the case. Your thological stance is very scary, because each one of use has the authority to interpret the Bible or other thological questions how ever we want and who is to say who is right and who is wrong. Of course this is why we now have over 28,000 different Christian denominations around the world all teaching what "They" believe to be the truth.

[Trinity]

I have studied extensively on the Rapture. It is very easy to disprove by using scripture alone. But of course you can also look into the history of the Rapture which also discredits this theory. Trinity you are stuck on this idea that what ever a person wants to believe is o.k.

This is the exact opposite of what i believe. Not only, but i too have done years of research into the Post Pre and Mid Trib THEORIES. I just didn't pick Pretrib just because, it was something that took me awhile to chose. I do not believe what ever a person believes is "o.k." For if i believed that then i would also believe everyone will get to heaven their own way.

For example lets say a person doesn't believe in the Trinity. Using your logic than this could be the case.

I will have to disagree with this reasoning. I have done an huge research on the Trinity, there are well over 400+ Verses pointing to a Trinity, or others put it Triunity of God which are very clear. Unlike the Rapture which are like 20-25 verses which can sometimes be alittle clouded.

You say, 'It is very easy to disprove by using scripture alone." What is funny actually is, i could say the same thing as can Mid-Tribbers... Isn't that odd

Your thological stance is very scary, because each one of use has the authority to interpret the Bible or other thological questions how ever we want and who is to say who is right and who is wrong.

I do not believe any of us "has the authority to interpret the Bible." I believe you have Twisted what i have said, You are just as Zealious as my mother, except she is on the other hand. I don't Believe ON THIS ISSUE WHICH IS A THEORY-(Not pure Theology) that you can say with a shaddow of a doubt I am right and you are wrong, and this goes for me as well.

People as Zealious as you and my Mother were wrong the first time around, who is to say we wont be the second? God is the only one who knows when his coming will be.

This is the Only part of the bible i believe to be unknown to humans, the best we can do is guess. Everything else is known unto us, but we do not know when his coming is, whether Pre or Post

[Marnie]

I love Tim LaHaye. The co-authored a book called "The Two Sides Of Love" It was wonderful. I read the first five books of the Left Behind series and want to reread and read the rest. I give him two thumbs up

His books on marriage are outstanding. I am proud to be a pre-trib, pre-mil believer, by the way, but not a big fan of "Christian fiction." Anyone who has read LaHaye's scholarly works would find him to be much, much more informed and enlightened than his fiction would lead you to believe. Cut him some slack, the Left Behind series are what they are.

Bunch of whiners around here sometimes.

Yes, I am in a bad mood today.

[Work in Progress]

I don't know what trib I am, and I tend to agree with Worm concerning the books. And I don't get why he is being ganged up on for speaking his opinion, strong though it may be. Nothing wrong with a strong opinion, as long as it is not vulgar or cruel in some way. It seems some went right on the attack as soon as he voiced it. Can we not have respect for everyone's opinion?

And I really don't understand what "knowing someone" has to do with it. The people right here on this board don't "know each other" but have formed judgements as to their beliefs and theology just be reading their posts.

JMO, as always.