Salvation

[Knight of Christ]

Sometimes I think I'm living in the Twilight Zone when this topic comes up which is at least once a week because I enjoy listening to the pop-Christian television sermons of that minister from the mega-mega-church in Houston every Sunday.His sermons are entertaining enough but unless I manage to change the channel before he launches into his 15 word prayer at the end of his telecast which he claims will save you,I become completely disgusted.

Ok first, Why in the world are you paying attation to a maga church? It is well known that the supper large orgnisations such as this and including the SBC and RCC eventualy stop serveing the lord in any realy way and end up doing nothing than servering there own money and power. Second of all the prayer you mentioned regardles of the way the words are said is not is what saves you for it is only he expresion being used saying that you belive that Jesus the son of God and that you except the gift of salvation in wich he gave his life for.

Actually the Bible is just full of things that we must do to obtain salvation because our salvation is dependent on our belief that Jesus is the Son of God which means we must follow ALL of his teachings including the seemingly hardest one for many Americans to follow,"THOU SHALT NOT KILL".

Actualy if you do a littel research into this subject you will find that the closer transulation actualy says Murder as aposed to kill. And if you think about it a little this actualy makes sence why? Becouse everything that lives is a killer and i mean everything. Why? becouse in order to survive we must eat. In order to eat we must kill what ever we are going to eat in order to make the food that we want. Even plants are livethings as well.

I find this intresting you sem to think youreself as high enof to stand in judgment of everybody els you youre umsumshions are so misinformed that you have no real i dea to youre own mistakes.

If you are in fact a therapist than i am sadend for youre thouse you are suposed to be councling they must be comming out even more confused than when they came in.

[David from New Bern]

Ok first, Why in the world are you paying attation to a maga church? It is well known that the supper large orgnisations such as this and including the SBC and RCC eventualy stop serveing the lord in any realy way and end up doing nothing than servering there own money and power.

Knight...I don't think you are qualified to ascertain this conclusion...big doesn't always mean shallow. Don't cast such a huge cast net of judgment. I would not object if you had tone it down a little and said, "tend to be", but I don't even know if that is fair. But your statement is accussatory and no evidence.

[other one]

It is not that difficult to find:

Romans

"The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart"

[Guest Thomas I believe]

How you ask ?

Salvation Prayer

In the Name of Jesus Christ I, come to you Heavenly Father and I confess: I have sinned against you and Heaven. I ask now that You, Father, forgive me of my sins in the name of Jesus Christ, and wash away all my sins with the Blood of Jesus. I believe that Jesus died for me on the Cross shedding His Blood for my sins. I believe that you raised Him from the dead on the third day. I believe and now accept what Jesus has done for me. I ask now that you send the Holy Spirit in the name of Jesus and that He dwell in me.

I Thank You Father. AMEN !!!

Congratulations, You are now a child of God. Find a good bible based church and read the word of God (Holy Bible)

[50_Cent's_dog]

Read my signatures.

[chrismarc]

To gain eternal life it takes none other than JESUS CHRIST - our hope for glory!

WE need to repent of going our willful ways and being our own god of life and ask God to forgive us, and believe and pray that JEsus come into our life , our heart, mind and souls and be our own personal Lord. HOwever, that does not mean we jsut go our own way, but we sanctify Jesus in our hearts and commit our WIll to HIs will. Heaven is assured ...elkie

What if we sin after all this?

Are we still assured of Heaven?

Why or why not?

[chrismarc]

so, I know that I belive that Jesus is the son of God. Therefore

I am going to heaven for He has forgiven me my past future and

present sins once for all. So what is there else to say? Love Suzana

Your sins are only forgiven if you confess them and repent,

otherwise you're separated from God and we could just go

around sinning without penalty.

[David from New Bern]

so, I know that I belive that Jesus is the son of God. Therefore

I am going to heaven for He has forgiven me my past future and

present sins once for all. So what is there else to say? Love Suzana

Your sins are only forgiven if you confess them and repent,

otherwise you're separated from God and we could just go

around sinning without penalty. quote"

Your eternal destination has to do with your born again identity (His child) not your performance. Jesus died once for your sins...

For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Romans 6:10 NKJV

When Jesus paid the penalty He said...

So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished!" And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit. John 19:30 NKJV

That was not an exhausted sigh that this is finally over....In the Greek, it was the statement, "Paid in Full." Which meant nothing else needed to be collected then, now, or future.

having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.Colossians 2:14 NKJV

Confession now is not for payment but for reconciling an already established realationship with God, like a child that ask for His father's forgiveness.

[Guest Thomas I believe]

If we have repented and we are under the Blood we are going to heaven period. Will we still sin ? Yes we are human and out out of perfection. Only God is perfect, The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are perfection. Will future sin hurt us ? Yes it can but the conviction within us will confess it. Gods will is to draw us closer to Him and sin will be reckoned with. Sin will become less as we grow closer to Him. Salvation is so simple. Believe and trust in me the Lord said. Jesus opened the door to Heaven !

[Brandli5]

In your opinion what does it take for a person to get to Heaven?

Well, sorry to tell you this, but this is more than my opinion. This is fact. This is not my fact or anyone elses on earths fact. This is God's Fact.

IT takes a person seeing that they are a sinner, and asking the lord Jesus christ to forgive them for there sins. It takes that person accepting that Jesus christ is lord and savoir. IT takes that person to know that Jesus died for there sins, and to know that he is risen and alive.

It does not take water, or physical motions. Does not even require sound. You can pray for forgivness in your mind, and if you really mean it with all your heart and ask Jesus into your heart, It will happen.

Automatically you will be adopted and become one of God's Children. You will gain all that there is to live for.

Jesus and his word is not there to harm someone. If you have been hurt by a group of people saying they are "christain" just know this. Not all people who say they are christain are. It takes more than a name plate outside on a church to be in God's eyes christain.

Being christain is fully accepting Jesus, and with that the knowlege that accepting people is what Jesus wants us to do.

THat does not mean accepting Sin, that does not mean we are to love sin, but love the Person.

The holy spirit is kind and will guide a person through life and show them the correct path.

Its not an easy road, but the end of the road is glory.

NOT AN EASY ROAD at all indeed.

But the rewards are great!! And Jesus loves all of us. Seek gods love, not peoples. Gods love is real and his words will lead a person to real understanding of his word. Take time to read it, not judge it. And if a person does that they can have Joy.