what Bible do you read

[ted]

What bible do you read and why do you read this particular bible?

Ok guys, with the way this thread is going, don't say I never warned you.....3 or 4 times....

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[kittyjo]

What bible do you read and why do you read this particular bible?

Yep, that question is usually just asking for trouble.... But this is what I thought about when I first saw this thread...

My Mother's Bible (Morris)

This book is all that

[Guest LadyC]

i did kittyjo! by the way, i'm taking ashlea to sign up for the union at 8 am in the morning, so i suppose i'll probably pick you up whenever she gets done and we'll get started with our painting party!

[tpbarn]

I will tell you why I am King James Bible Only.

Then there is the New World Translation created to take away the deity of Christ. This is used by the Jehovah's Witnesses.

The New World Translation does not take anything away from our Savior and Lord Jesus Christ, the son of God, nor does it add anything

The New World Translation is different from the King James in one major way The New World Translation put Gods name back where it was in the original Hebrew scriptures, whereas the King James has removed Gods name to the extent of more than 6,500 times. What other name has been removed from the bible? Every place where LORD is written in Capital letters, is where Gods name was written in the original scriptures. This is not a translation, this is a removal. It is comparable to reading a detailed book about Microsoft and not seeing Bill Gates name. How would you feel if Jesus' name was removed and replaced with a word such as "Teacher"? None of us would like that!

What effect does this have? Well most Christians would have a very hard time praying to their father in heaven by using his name. In Ps 83:18 in the KJ Bible, Gods name appears and is Jehovah. Now, test yourself, it is in your bible, Gods name is there, can you use Gods name when you pray to him? A question to ask yourself is why was it taken out of the New King James Version?? Do you think that is Okay? Jeramiah 10 vs 23 helps answer that question (King James Version) " O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps."

Another test you can do is to read Ex 3 Vs 14 and 15. When you read Vs 14 you will probably say that Gods name is I AM. Now to Vs 15. When you read Vs 15, put Gods name back in where it was taken out (where LORD is written in Capital Letters, put back Gods name Jehovah) and now answer the question what is Gods name, I AM or Jehovah? I AM is a descriptive term and can be translated I SHALL PROVE TO BE as in the New World Translation.

Lastly, when you read the Psalms that give glory to God, put his name back in where LORD is in Capital letters and see if it is more personal for you. It is a glorious thing to recogize and praise our creator by using his name. My suggestion is to consult multiple versions of the bible but be sure to include the New World Translation.

[pointer]

I thank you for your contribution to the thread and your endorsement of the New World Translation. It only validates one of my arguments for using the KJV only. To someone who is unfamiliar with the fact it is the Jehovah's Witness Bible, they might think it to be just another modern language Bible and be deceived.

So modern language Bibles as used by born again people (I presume there is no disagreement with that) are in a different category from the NWT, used by cultists. How, then, does the NWT validate the use of the KJV only?

[jmwhalen]

Butero states:

"The New World Translation is different from the King James in one major way The New World Translation put Gods name back where it was in the original Hebrew scriptures(emphasis mine), whereas the King James has removed Gods name to the extent of more than 6,500 times. What other name has been removed from the bible(emphasis mine) ? Every place where LORD is written in Capital letters, is where Gods name was written in the original scriptures(emphasis mine).

Tell all of us how you made such a determination that the NWT "put Gods name back where it was in the original Hebrew scriptures". You have "the original Hebrew Scriptures"? Please send me your address! I will be sending you a check for $_______(fill in the blank) for these "the original Hebrew Scriptures". Of course, it does not dawn on those who make this statement, these so-called "experts", "scholars"(i.e/ secular humanists)that:

1. One of the reasons we have over 200+ "versions", and over 5000 manuscripts, which differ among themselves, is that no such "the originals", "the original manuscripts", "the original Hebrew Scriptures", "the original Greek", "the Greek",.... exists.

2. If you/they are , in fact, in possession of "the originals", "the original manuscripts", "the original Hebrew Scriptures", "the original Greek", "the Greek",............, why do you even rely on the NWT? TILT

"What other name has been removed from the bible(emphasis mine)"

Please identify this "the bible" from which you make this assessment/judgment. i.e., identify this standard "the bible" from which God's name has been removed, and, accordingly(to you), has been "corrected" by the NWT. You do realize you are correcting "the Bible", a "source" standard that is not "the originals", "the original manuscripts", "the original Hebrew Scriptures", "the original Greek", "the Greek",.... ? You cannot "correct" if you do not have the "standard"(which must be 100% without error) from which to make such assessment/judgment.

In Christ,

John M. Whalen

[jmwhalen]

Butero:

I apologize. I believe we are of "like mind" on this issue. However, I stand by my argument of "the originals" issue.

In Christ,

John M. Whalen

[Christian]

I own a 1611 KJV. I own a 1769 KJV. I also own an 1850 KJV.

If you don't mind me asking hr.jr., how were you so blessed to have come into possession of not 1, but 3 Bibles of such antiquity? (They must have cost a mint if purchased ). And also, since they are so inacessable to the general public, what is your suggestion so as to allow others to experience these Bibles?

[Christian]

And another question, neither here nor there in relation to this KJV argument;

Has anyone ever heard of a "Concordant Literal New Testament" translation? I have been reading an essay and the writer keeps referring to this translation, which among the 3 gazillion translations offered these days I have never even heard of?

[tpbarn]

Butero states:

"The New World Translation is different from the King James in one major way The New World Translation put Gods name back where it was in the original Hebrew scriptures(emphasis mine), whereas the King James has removed Gods name to the extent of more than 6,500 times. What other name has been removed from the bible(emphasis mine) ? Every place where LORD is written in Capital letters, is where Gods name was written in the original scriptures(emphasis mine).

Tell all of us how you made such a determination that the NWT "put Gods name back where it was in the original Hebrew scriptures". You have "the original Hebrew Scriptures"? Please send me your address! I will be sending you a check for $_______(fill in the blank) for these "the original Hebrew Scriptures". Of course, it does not dawn on those who make this statement, these so-called "experts", "scholars"(i.e/ secular humanists)that:

1. One of the reasons we have over 200+ "versions", and over 5000 manuscripts, which differ among themselves, is that no such "the originals", "the original manuscripts", "the original Hebrew Scriptures", "the original Greek", "the Greek",.... exists.

2. If you/they are , in fact, in possession of "the originals", "the original manuscripts", "the original Hebrew Scriptures", "the original Greek", "the Greek",............, why do you even rely on the NWT? TILT

"What other name has been removed from the bible(emphasis mine)"

Please identify this "the bible" from which you make this assessment/judgment. i.e., identify this standard "the bible" from which God's name has been removed, and, accordingly(to you), has been "corrected" by the NWT. You do realize you are correcting "the Bible", a "source" standard that is not "the originals", "the original manuscripts", "the original Hebrew Scriptures", "the original Greek", "the Greek",.... ? You cannot "correct" if you do not have the "standard"(which must be 100% without error) from which to make such assessment/judgment.

In Christ,

John M. Whalen

I don't know why this causes so much apparent anger in you. The original post was in defense of the King James Version and I have no objection to the King James Version. The point is and was that Gods Name appears in the King James Version at Ps 83:18 and most Christians are in denial that is his name. Additionally, most King James Versions contain writing at the beginning or at the end of the bible that explains words to the effect that the word LORD in capital letters is the replacement for the original devine name of God. So why does this make you so angry. Forget the New World Translation if you object so strongly against it, just address Gods Name in your bible, the King James Version.