Floatingaxe Posted January 30, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted January 30, 2007 What's the question?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lnj Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I remain steadfast and Believe the entirety of His Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lnj Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 There's only ONE opinion that matters...HIS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted January 30, 2007 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted January 30, 2007 So Larry2. You can repent today, receive Christ and his forgiveness, and as your saviour, and go out next week and live it up in the world and die in your sins and still be worthy of salvation??. Have you read all the bible yet, Larry or are you only reading the gospel written by John? BTW I notice you are new here. So welcome to Worthy and most are good listeners and seekers of the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry 2 Posted January 30, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 791 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 205 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2007 So Larry2. You can repent today, receive Christ and his forgiveness, and as your saviour, and go out next week and live it up in the world and die in your sins and still be worthy of salvation??. Have you read all the bible yet, Larry or are you only reading the gospel written by John? BTW I notice you are new here. So welcome to Worthy and most are good listeners and seekers of the truth. Eric, I highly doubt you will understand what I am about to say, but scripture is what the word is all about. I also believe in dispensations which is the way God dealt with different people in different ages. For instance I do not believe we have the command to not eat of the tree of good and evil. I do not believe we are to construct a tabernacle in the wilderness. I do not believe we are to march around Jericho. I do not believe we sacrifice animals as sacrifices to God in this day to cover our sin, yet you apparently do those things because you believe all of the Bible and apply it to yourself. I may even go further and say that you may be able to use scriptures together and make up things you like it to say such as; 2 Samuel 17:23 And when Ahithophel saw that his counsel was not followed, he saddled his ass, and arose, and gat him home to his house, to his city, and put his household in order, and hanged himself, and died, and was buried in the sepulchre of his father. Deuteronomy 15:17 Then thou shalt take an aul, and thrust it through his ear unto the door, and he shall be thy servant for ever. And also unto thy maidservant thou shalt do likewise. When put out of context you could have ii read this way: Ahithophel hanged himself, and died; thou shalt do likewise. I personally do not have to use your mighty wisdom such as we can go out and do thus, and thus. I will again use scripture, because while you do not believe it, or understand the meanings of some words, there may be some here eager to learn. To add to what I posted before, 1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. I do hope you are born again, and if you are it says here that you do not sin. What part of sinneth not don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgolvach Posted January 30, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 110 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,254 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2007 I actually believe that Jesus died for my sins. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted January 30, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2007 So Larry2. You can repent today, receive Christ and his forgiveness, and as your saviour, and go out next week and live it up in the world and die in your sins and still be worthy of salvation??. Have you read all the bible yet, Larry or are you only reading the gospel written by John? BTW I notice you are new here. So welcome to Worthy and most are good listeners and seekers of the truth. Eric, I highly doubt you will understand what I am about to say, but scripture is what the word is all about. I also believe in dispensations which is the way God dealt with different people in different ages. For instance I do not believe we have the command to not eat of the tree of good and evil. I do not believe we are to construct a tabernacle in the wilderness. I do not believe we are to march around Jericho. I do not believe we sacrifice animals as sacrifices to God in this day to cover our sin, yet you apparently do those things because you believe all of the Bible and apply it to yourself. I may even go further and say that you may be able to use scriptures together and make up things you like it to say such as; 2 Samuel 17:23 And when Ahithophel saw that his counsel was not followed, he saddled his ass, and arose, and gat him home to his house, to his city, and put his household in order, and hanged himself, and died, and was buried in the sepulchre of his father. Deuteronomy 15:17 Then thou shalt take an aul, and thrust it through his ear unto the door, and he shall be thy servant for ever. And also unto thy maidservant thou shalt do likewise. When put out of context you could have ii read this way: Ahithophel hanged himself, and died; thou shalt do likewise. I personally do not have to use your mighty wisdom such as we can go out and do thus, and thus. I will again use scripture, because while you do not believe it, or understand the meanings of some words, there may be some here eager to learn. To add to what I posted before, 1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. I do hope you are born again, and if you are it says here that you do not sin. What part of sinneth not don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted January 30, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2007 I actually believe that Jesus died for my sins. Dan yeah I also actually believe that Jesus died for my sins. praise God for His marvelous work. Now what is your point is this your idea of chasing one down to get them to admit to something. OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firehill Posted January 30, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,980 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2007 To add to what I posted before, 1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. I do hope you are born again, and if you are it says here that you do not sin. What part of sinneth not don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgolvach Posted January 30, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 110 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,254 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2007 I actually believe that Jesus died for my sins. Dan yeah I also actually believe that Jesus died for my sins. praise God for His marvelous work. Now what is your point is this your idea of chasing one down to get them to admit to something. OC Heres the thing OC ..I have lived long enough to hear good biblical arguements from both sides of this issue. Life has taught me that there is our version of holyness and God's. God's is the standard not ours. Anyone who believes his life is up to God's standard is decieving himself. (her) Yet, God's perfect standard is the requirement to get into heaven. When we sincerely invite Christ to come and take over we are imputed with his rightousnous. Its a total act of grace. I'm not saying this gives us a ticket to go out and have a sin party. Yet we still have sin in our lives. If you have Christ there will be a very uneasy feeling with sin because you are now at war with yourself. Yes we do change but its not an overnight event always. Its a process that we will endure for the rest of our lives. Repent means to turn around and go the other direction. If your walking down a rocky slope and turn around, its still a rocky walk up and you still stumble. I believe the Holy Spirit guides us in the right direction but the Holy Spirit is a gift. Now if you are as happy as can be and satisfied and fufilled with your sin then I would say your conversion was false to begin with. You only said words you didn't mean. God knows if really want him or not. If you truely saw your condition and called out to him, you have been turned around and forgiven through what Jesus did. I also believe that sin has consequences. Oh! Yes...David found out the hard way. But I believe we still are saved. David was after God's own heart. Its either grace or justice. We all deserve to go to hell. I don't want justice. Do you? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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