Universalism

[rafter]

A week ago I did not even know what universalism was. Now I am starting to notice it on every corner. My own pastor suggested getting William Barclay's commentaries on the new testament. I did an internet search and I came up with a sermon on universalism by William Barclay. We are fast approaching melt down. Brothers and sisters beware.......

Universalism means, in a nut shell, that all people will eventually be saved.

I am discovering there are a lot of people out there who believe this doctrine and they claim at the same time to be Christians.....

Am I missing something in the scripture, because I just don't see where they are coming from...........

[traveller]

We have had a few posters in the nearly two years I've been on Worthyboards that were Universalism. First I ever heard of it. I was shocked too. But yeah, I'm seeing more and more myself now.

[Tyler]

One important thing that I have learned from being on these boards is that just because a person pins the title "christian" on themselves, doesn't necessarily mean they are Christian!!! I have heard many so called "christians" with beliefs that make your hair stand on end!!

Discernment more than ever is now needed, when listening to an individual's message! The enemy has a very smooth and flattering tongue!

Only Christ Saves

[traveller]

Amen Tyler, The times are rapidly coming to an end and with it, the enemy is getting busier because he's desperate. We have to be on guard and very careful. Everything has to line up with scripture. Everything.

[Tyler]

You hit the "proverbial" nail on the head Traveller!!

Only Christ Saves

[ColleenLovesMischief]

Universalism means, in a nut shell, that all people will eventually be saved.

Nah I ain't down with that. Run away from it...Not truth and not biblical. :x:

[irishcowboy]

I think that might stem from the verse that says every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.....

I had a house guest that was preaching that, I told him that he was full of something, what i didnt know, but he was teaching wrong.....

Yes, I believe EVERY KNEE WILL BOW.....

and yes, EVERY TONGUE WILL CONFESS.....

but not because they have all been taken out of the grasp of the devil, but because at the judgement, there will be two judgements...... there will be some that are kneeling and praising and worshiping in joy, happiness and love........ then the rest, that will be on their knees, begging for mercy..... oooops, what happened, they will be nashing of teeth there will be crying out in pain, and fear, and and and and and and and ........ what a way to go, man, worse then any spook movie......

universalism, is not even of the Bible...... not anywhere i have found..... and Revelation speaks the other way.....

mike

[Adstar]

I think that might stem from the verse that says every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.....

I had a house guest that was preaching that, I told him that he was full of something, what i didnt know, but he was teaching wrong.....

Yes, I believe EVERY KNEE WILL BOW.....

and yes, EVERY TONGUE WILL CONFESS.....

but not because they have all been taken out of the grasp of the devil, but because at the judgement, there will be two judgements...... there will be some that are kneeling and praising and worshiping in joy, happiness and love........ then the rest, that will be on their knees, begging for mercy..... oooops, what happened, they will be nashing of teeth there will be crying out in pain, and fear, and and and and and and and ........ what a way to go, man, worse then any spook movie......

universalism, is not even of the Bible...... not anywhere i have found..... and Revelation speaks the other way.....

mike

Thats interesting Mr&Mrs Mike Irish

I never look at it in that way. I had the tough that it was referring to the time that the Messiah Jesus returns to rule in His 1000 year reign on earth. He shall rule the world and every knee will bow before Him weather they like it or not. I suppose what will be will be.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[traveller]

My take is a little different as well. I thought it meant that all will finally recognize that Christ is God and worthy and just and righteous. That all will recognize our filth and unworthiness. All. Not that all will be saved, but that all will know that God's plan is just and his way is the only way and that His judgement is righteous. Even the unsaved will recognize it, but it will be too late. JMO.

[traveller]

River, true, we will not know the exact day and hour, but we are to know the seasons. I do believe that we are in winter spiritually. The endtimes started when Jesus ascended into heaven, to be on the right side of the Father. It is since then that we have been anxiously awaiting His return.

*edited to add*

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

River, to further explain what I mean - as in this passage the people did not know, though they were told by Noah. They were warned, just as we have been. These people were non-believers. Noah knew the flood was coming and prepared. Believers are to be ready, and to to be watchful. We know He is coming, just not exactly when.