Where are the real men?

[Guest lnj]

I guess the way I look at it, most Christian men would try not to look at the posters, but if they were actually able to go through the store and not at least be tempted to glance at them, I would be more concerned that they would be the type that would be going on fishing trips to Brokeback Mountain.

I am yet to meet a good Christian fella who doesn't LOOK at women, whether they are married or not. Fact.LNJ

[ted]

Real good, Ted. But, a real man would, if I needed him to, go into a Victoria Secrets store and make a purchase for me, without looking at the posters.

Real men would not be bothered by the posters. They'd be too busy looking at the staff.....

t.

Yeah, but I have a feeling Marnie might drag you out by the ear if she caught you looking at the staff! Besides if a guy were married to Marnie, what business would he have looking at the staff?

Actually, using the scenario as stated by Marnie, the man would be in there by himself and she would be elsewhere. Therefore, there would be no danger of being removed via the audio-sensory devices.

As for why said man would be looking at the staff, it would be to ensure that he is not looking at the posters, naturally, thereby ensuring complete compliance with expected behavior and all implied marital regulations.

No blood, no foul.

Problem solved.

t.

To even things up a bit - if said MaN were to ask Marnie to go down to the baseball changing room sheds to pick up his SocKs, then Marnie would do so and keep her eyes on said socks and not the guys in there

If said man was dumb enough to send Marnie into a situation like that, then said man would most likely not be smart enough to retain said Marnie in the first place.

t.

[Iryssa]

I guess the way I look at it, most Christian men would try not to look at the posters, but if they were actually able to go through the store and not at least be tempted to glance at them, I would be more concerned that they would be the type that would be going on fishing trips to Brokeback Mountain.

It's true!

[anitarose]

I have come to the conclusion that the term "good man" is an oxymoron....there is no such thing. At least, not right now, for me....Forgive me but I am not a happy camper right now.

Anita & Chikachu

[forrestkc]

I've been contemplating marriage. The problem is, I just don't see a lot of real men. In another thread I was poked fun at because of some of the things I am looking for in a mate. The general feeling is that my sights are set too high; that I will never find my "ideal man" because he doesn't exist. I've been thinking about this, and while I know he is out there (I also believe in Bigfoot and the Nessie, mind you), he sure is hard to spot. What I mean is this: At 33, it is almost impossible to find a compatible male my age. What I generally find is this:

*guys my age are already divorced with children and lots of baggage;

*guys my age are still "finding themselves," whatever that means;

*guys my age who are single are likely gay or still living at home in their parents basement;

*too many guys my age are still tied to their mother's apron strings;

*guys my age are still playing and replaying the big game in highschool;

*guys my age are more interested in X Boxes than in cultivating a relationship;

*guys my age want the sex but don't want the exertion of building a life together;

*a lot of guys my age are so ego-centric they spend more time in front of a mirror than I do;

*what is it with this whole "sensitivity" thing? Sympathy and crying...far too common in men today;

*manners, politeness, and all those old-fashioned gentlemanly qualities seem to end with men in their late 40's

I am not gay, have found myself (whatever that means), live over 400 miles from my mother, care less about highschool, don't play video games, don't cry, am not overly vain, and I am polite and use the southern manners I was raised with.

I am married though.

There are plenty of guys out there in their early 30s that are "real men". A lot of them probably have been married before and some of them probably have kids. You got to take up an activity that real men are likely to be engaged in. Maybe fishing, or if you want to get cultured about it, Fly Fishing, or backpacking, canoeing. You know something like that. I mean other than in a bar, you will find more "real men" doing stuff like that than anything else.

[mrs]

I guess the way I look at it, most Christian men would try not to look at the posters, but if they were actually able to go through the store and not at least be tempted to glance at them, I would be more concerned that they would be the type that would be going on fishing trips to Brokeback Mountain.

I guess my question is, if it would be wrong for him to look at said posters why would his wife send him in that place anyway?Isn't that just unnecessarily placing him in the path of temptation?

[RGR]

I guess the way I look at it, most Christian men would try not to look at the posters, but if they were actually able to go through the store and not at least be tempted to glance at them, I would be more concerned that they would be the type that would be going on fishing trips to Brokeback Mountain.

I guess my question is, if it would be wrong for him to look at said posters why would his wife send him in that place anyway?Isn't that just unnecessarily placing him in the path of temptation?

Hannah, hun, quit fouling up everything with details!

[firehill]

It's our 31st anniversary tomorrow! Whoooo hooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Congrats sis and may the Lord give you 50 more!

May the Lord give you 75 more years

Wow! Unless I am Sarah, I doubt that could happen! God is good anyhow!

FX,

[firehill]

Marnie, I'm going to have to say that the reason you can't find a good man, is because there is a bad shortage of them lately.

I am a male, and while I consider myself a man, I often look at myself and find that I'm not as "manly" as I think I should be.

Society today has taken a chunk out of manhood. We are encouraged to settle down, be polite and "gentlemenly". Yes being polite is all well and good, but I do not believe that we should be little poodles with bows in our hair.

I think the church does this as much as anybody does. The church encourages men to be "good christian men". But what is that? So far as I can tell, none of us are "good". I think God has a plan for us, and He ultimately knows how to keep us happy. Shouldn't we leave it up to Him? But no, we bow down to the church again and again, handing over every piece of our broken dignity.

And I'm not saying this thinking myself as a "manly-man", but as a failure. I need to find my heart just like most men do.

I would like to take this oppurtunity to encourage everyone to read these books:

(For Men) Wild at Heart- John Elderedge

(For Women) Captivating- John Elderedge (and his wife I believe)

I don't always agree with everything he has to say, but found it very helpful and interesting. His book will at least make you re-examine your life, and I think all of us need to do that every once in a while.

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Not that I've read the entirity of this thread, but Eldredge's book for men (haven't read the one he wrote 'for' women), if taken seriously and word for word had some pretty creepy stuff in it! EEEk. Ewh, I had to comment. Ewh, again. Sorry, I met a professed christian who had taken his words, interpreted them... and in an aspect was a freak because of at least some of those strange words he ingested!

[firehill]

I guess the way I look at it, most Christian men would try not to look at the posters, but if they were actually able to go through the store and not at least be tempted to glance at them, I would be more concerned that they would be the type that would be going on fishing trips to Brokeback Mountain.