Poll: The Origin of Our Souls.

[Floatingaxe]

As God knew me since before the creation of the world, it doesn't mean my soul was in existence. He created me at the appointed time.

[forrestkc]

The point is in order for God to know Jeremiah before he was formed in the womb, means he had a soul before he was formed. His soul came first before he was formed. The instant sperm and egg meet and come to life, there is already a soul that God knows. Sperm and egg become a living being as soon as they meet.

Well I guess it could mean that, or it could mean that God is all knowing, he knows all that is seen and unseen, and he knows all that has ever happened or will happen. Thus God does not need to create your soul prior to conception for God to already know everything about you. Every event that will ever happen in the universe was known to God before he created anything.

In fact, pre-existence is a false doctrine promoted by the Mormons and some sects of Islam.

This is why I like a Bible with theological footnotes throughout it.

[Emily~Anne]

The point is in order for God to know Jeremiah before he was formed in the womb, means he had a soul before he was formed. His soul came first before he was formed. The instant sperm and egg meet and come to life, there is already a soul that God knows. Sperm and egg become a living being as soon as they meet.

Well I guess it could mean that, or it could mean that God is all knowing, he knows all that is seen and unseen, and he knows all that has ever happened or will happen. Thus God does not need to create your soul prior to conception for God to already know everything about you. Every event that will ever happen in the universe was known to God before he created anything.

In fact, pre-existence is a false doctrine promoted by the Mormons and some sects of Islam.

This is why I like a Bible with theological footnotes throughout it.

But this to me also tells me that each life is valued by God. Wether or not a bunch of cells has a soul, (which to be honest I am not 100% sure about)God created those cells and all life starts with those cells. If those cells are capable of growing and multiplying on their own in a petri dish and are cells that equal a human being some day, then who are WE to decide those 'cells' are not valuable? God is the creater of all life, and is the creater of those cells that will = a human being. They don't compare to cells such as some strain of bacteria cells are whatever, these cells are LIFE! Therefore they are extremely valuable and they count to God even though you may not think much of them. As I said, I believe life starts when sperm and egg meet, wether that be in a petri dish at a fertility clinic or within the mother's fallopian tube. But God does know our names well before we are even conceived. Therefore I believe he is familiar in a way with our souls before they even come into existence. He is all-knowing isn't he?

By the way, I never claimed pre-existence, as I said in an earlier post on this thread, I do not believe in reincarnation. The ED in formed to me strikes me as meaning actually formed , as in complete with a formed heart, lungs, etc.

[eric]

I believe that our souls grow with in us from the time of conception. I also believe that Adam's spirit died when he transgressed, that's why we have to be born again of the spirit, but his soul, which was marred, because of sin, lived on and we are inherent of his soul. I believe our soul is renewed at the point of repentance and receiving of the holy spirit.

But I wouldn't debate because I don't know anyone that does really know. It is unproveable. Adam is the only ceated member of the human race. We are all born of the flesh and our sin tainted souls have been handed down through the generations.

Just another POV.

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[GeneV]

I believe that our souls grow with in us from the time of conception. I also believe that Adam's spirit died when he transgressed, that's why we have to be born again of the spirit, but his soul, which was marred, because of sin, lived on and we are inherent of his soul. I believe our soul is renewed at the point of repentance and receiving of the holy spirit.

But I wouldn't debate because I don't know anyone that does really know. It is unproveable. Adam is the only ceated member of the human race. We are all born of the flesh and our sin tainted souls have been handed down through the generations.

Just another POV.

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I believe this too except I would say body, soul and spirit. The spirit being impoverished at birth until renewal through the Holy Spirit.

[Eliyahuw]

Creationism-moment of conception.

The problem with Creationisms ideal, is that IF God creates the soul and then puts into the baby at the moment of conception, then he has created a imperfect soul one that has sin nature. This is contrary to what the bible teaches. God is perfect therefore cannot create a imperfect soul.

If he did create a soul that is flawed with sin, then that means he has a sin nature.

When he created Adam he created a perfect man. Then he created eve.

God breathed a spirit/breath of life into Adam, he didn't do this with eve! So that means that when he made eve from adam the soul and the spirit were split off from Adam when he created Eve and a Unique individual was formed.

Then Eve sinned against Adam and Adam sinned against God. This started the imperfection. Since then man has transferred a sin nature on down, as well as man has only recieved a soul and not the spirit of God until he accepts christ.

[Mutzrein]

There's probably an obviously answer but what is the basis for belief that the soul is eternal?