Vickilynn Posted April 28, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2007 AVB put out a song awhile back. It's called "Growin' Up With King James". I think I remember all the words. (I couldn't, so I found the lyrics!) I grew up with King James I read it in my youth I read it in my Sunday school It's how I learned the truth Learning to decipher Elizabethan voice Newer versions came along And now I have a choice! Chorus: Growin' up with King James Learning "thees" and "thous" Learning the unwritten rules That the church allows Growin' up with King James Hard to understand What the language means to me Say who is this man? King James King James Back when it brand new The lingo it was prime It's safe to say that century Was way before my time When it comes to versions Which is the one for me? I can honestly declare It's not the KJV! (Hey!) Repeat Chorus No, we are not sayin' (can't say it's bad) The KJV is bad (it's bad, it's bad, it's bad) Countless souls came to the Lord The only choice they had (only choice they had) If you're tryin' to tell me (The only one) That's it's the only one (The only one) That would mean Jehovah God would be an Englishman Repeat Chorus Say who art thou man? King James (Who is this man?) King James James King James One of my Greek professors once told me that the NASB was the best to use for study purposes, because it's a "word for word" translation (like King James), but it doesn't change a word for flowing of English, like the KJV does. But like FA said, Jesus is there no matter what Bible you use. And my God is big enough to use any translation to bring one to His truth! Peace. Shalom, I LOVE this post! And I love the song! Thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittylover0991 Posted April 28, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 490 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,726 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/25/1990 Share Posted April 28, 2007 I own (and use) the New Century Version, New Internation Version, and the New Living Translation. I also have an Amplified Bible on order from Crossings that should be in any day now. So which one is the REAL WORD of God? They can not all be the WORD of God can they? Yes! The Word is JESUS! He is on every page, no matter what version you use. Good for you, Floatingaxe! Good for you. AVB put out a song awhile back. It's called "Growin' Up With King James". I think I remember all the words. (I couldn't, so I found the lyrics!) I grew up with King James I read it in my youth I read it in my Sunday school It's how I learned the truth Learning to decipher Elizabethan voice Newer versions came along And now I have a choice! Chorus: Growin' up with King James Learning "thees" and "thous" Learning the unwritten rules That the church allows Growin' up with King James Hard to understand What the language means to me Say who is this man? King James King James Back when it brand new The lingo it was prime It's safe to say that century Was way before my time When it comes to versions Which is the one for me? I can honestly declare It's not the KJV! (Hey!) Repeat Chorus No, we are not sayin' (can't say it's bad) The KJV is bad (it's bad, it's bad, it's bad) Countless souls came to the Lord The only choice they had (only choice they had) If you're tryin' to tell me (The only one) That's it's the only one (The only one) That would mean Jehovah God would be an Englishman Repeat Chorus Say who art thou man? King James (Who is this man?) King James James King James I"m backing out of this thread.. that makes me really really sad.... I love threads about KJV and the other versions of the bible... and though I may have disagreed with many opinions, at least I can back what I say up with .... some form of .... information.... Not to reduce to the level of this song.... I'm so very sorry.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittylover0991 Posted April 28, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 490 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,726 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/25/1990 Share Posted April 28, 2007 But when man corrupts his word.. are we still to call it God's Holy Word? .... It makes me sad to think that so many pp don't know the difference, but it makes me even sadder when someone puts down my God's WOrd, makes a joke of it... I expect that from those at my school who don't care about God.. but I guess I expect too much from a Christian site sometimes... Crystal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted April 28, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted April 28, 2007 I'm sad, too, Crystal. I'm sad that people can't trust God to reveal His Word in any form He chooses. I'm sad that people can't take His gift for what it is--His love letter to us--without arguing about what translation is "true." I believe God is saying, "My Spirit is more powerful than any human mistakes. My Word will not return to me void--in any translation. I am in control." Putting one translation of the Bible above another, I believe, is saying that man is in control of God's Word, not God. And yes, Crystal, that should make us all sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletprayers Posted April 28, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted April 28, 2007 kitty, I appreciate the fact that your passionate about God, thats a good and wonderful thing. But there are many scholars that have worked hard, given their blood, sweat and tears to translate the Bible, and to say their translation is false is just wrong. I love the KJ and when I just need to hear the beauty and flow of the words, thats what I read, because thats what I was brought up reading and hearing. But to study I use several different translation, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with them. Men translated the KJ also, just men and I believe that God guided them, as He did others in their translations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apothanein kerdos Posted April 28, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.20 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2007 What Bible passages states that the Textus Receptus is the revealed Word and the Inspired Word? It wasn't compiled until well after the 6th Century...so did Christians lack the Revealed Word before then? To take this even further, if memory serves me correctly, the KJV OT is based on the Septuagint and not on the Hebrew Translations...which allows for multiple errors. The KJV was good for its time but is inadequate today. There are translation errors in it, and at the best inadequacies. No matter what translation you look at, outside of Greek and Hebrew, there will always be errors and inadequacies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted April 28, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 512 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 8,601 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/16/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/04/1973 Share Posted April 28, 2007 King Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeilanS Posted April 28, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,763 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/14/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/23/1990 Share Posted April 28, 2007 I'm not entirely sure where this discussion is going, but here is some food for thought. Would you rather an unbeliever read the NIV or no bible at all? I think the new translations have a much better chance of getting people to not say "This stuff is confusing, I quit". I would MUCH prefer that unbelievers read a bit of the NIV and understand it than a bit of confusing KJV. Of course, if he so chooses God can speak to the unbeliever through the KJV, but I figure we might as well make it a bit easier. Once they are a devout Christian, then I recommend everyone at least takes a look at the KJV. As someone in no danger of "quitting" my reading of the bible, I doubt I will ever use another translation now that I have a KJV. However I certainly wouldn't condemn the use of other translations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted April 28, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2007 Is the King James Version of the Bible easy for you to read in the year 2007? Will it continue to be used? Is it fading out of the English language or is it basically already gone? The local Church I go to still uses KJV cited hymns (sp) but not Bibles. Most use the NIV. Thoughts? I purchased and own every version of the Bible as I could afford over the years. The KJV is the "one." The Old Thompson Chain Reference Bible is a bit hard to get to grips with for some people, even the fourth improved edition, but the KJV its as it is, the inspired Word of God. My personal 2 cents worth. Haz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest schmuck Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 I guess it's just what works for you...i don't find it helpful because i can't understand half the stuff thats in it so i use translations like the CEV, NIV and The Message. I also think that Christianity is meant to be relevant so for the unchurched who speak normal everyday english i would seriously steer away from the KJV because i think it can be inaccessible, bu thats just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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