Biblical Marriage

[Massorite]

YOU GO VICKILYNN. There is always going to be somebody who wants to justify sin by twisting the word of God. God was the only High Priest on earth at the time that Adam an Eve were married. While it is true that we don't have to have a church or a priest to get married according to the laws of our land,we do at the very least have to be married by a Justice of the Peace.

Be Blessed

so is that all it takes? i am a priest under the lineage of christ as is every other christian. so i guess that means we can preform our own marraiges.

no i am not twisting, i am asking that the verses be shown that say we must be married by a church or judge or priest.

AND i have repeatedly said that all that is necessary is the comittment (covenant) is made between the couple and God.

Anything else is a contract between the government and the two parties involved.

You are correct about being a priest. Being a Christian qualifies you as a priest of sorts but only if there is not an Ordained priest readally available. I will do some research and see what I can find. The botton line is that if a marraige is not a God sanctified marraige it is an illegal marraige in the eyes of God.

Well I guess you are correct after all. Biblically speaking marriage is a lifetime covenant between a man and a woman. A good gift God gave us is sex for the purpose of showing love to each other and procreation. Any sex out side of that commitment before or after is considered sin. The best that I can tell the bible says nothing about any physical marriage contract or any laws concerning the process to get married. However we are commanded to obey the laws of the land unless they are contrary to the laws of God and being married by a priest or a justice of the peace is not sin in the eyes of God or of men, but we should remember this. Even Jesus has a time when the Bride is gathered to Him, the marraige takes place and a marriage supper accures in celebration of the covenant marriage.

I stand corrected and I apologize for my insult.

Robert

Robert,

You did not insult me at all. I know we are to obey the laws of the land but look at the laws. the laws don't care whether or not were married by the JP or a church. The law only covers making a binding contract concerning assets and liabilities in that marraige. it doesn't care one whit whether or not we are making a convenant or comittment to each other beyond those two things.

According to the law of the land, you don't even have to be married to live together as married people. in fact the law of the land encourages us not to be married! It rewards us for not being married. For example, the marraige tax. if you cohabitate together, you aren't penalized in your tax returns with a lesser amount of deductions.

Also look at how it penalizes you if you are married and are in need of assistance.

So the law of the land isn't any guideline.

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Today the laws of the land are changing. Wrong is right and right is wrong. So what about the marraige license and the blood test? A JP isn,t supposed to marry any one without it and one can not get a marraige license without a blood test.

[ColleenLovesMischief]

The state I live in has no common law marriages. When it did it took living together for 7 yrs to institute it. 7 yrs of living in sin!!!! Yes some of us are punished financially for marriage, but I am one who does not care. I would prefer lose most of my income and struggle (which I know God will provide what I need) than to continue living in sin.

[Vickilynn]

The state I live in has no common law marriages. When it did it took living together for 7 yrs to institute it. 7 yrs of living in sin!!!! Yes some of us are punished financially for marriage, but I am one who does not care. I would prefer lose most of my income and struggle (which I know God will provide what I need) than to continue living in sin.

Shalom,

A wise post indeed!! Those men and women living together without the benefit of marriage (legally recognized) are living in SIN.

[Sherman]

YOU GO VICKILYNN. There is always going to be somebody who wants to justify sin by twisting the word of God. God was the only High Priest on earth at the time that Adam an Eve,s union was sanctified by God. While it is true that we don't have to have a church or a priest to get married we do have to have some sort of biblical recognition and according to the laws of our land, we do at the very least have to be married by a Justice of the Peace.

Ruth and Boaz got married according to Jewish custom which means that they had a marriage ceremony that was presided over by a Jewish priest. It would have been illegal to do otherwise according to Jewish law

Your arguement about God justifing living in sin sucks!

Be Blessed

Actually, priests did not precide over Jewish marriages or divorces. They were primarily under personal/domestic authority, with limited civil oversight (respected cummunity leaders, judges). The only practice that involved the priesthood was that concerning the law of Jeaolousy. If a man suspected his wife cheating on him but he had no proof and she denied it, he could take her to the priests who would make a sacrifice, mix some water with dust, and have the woman repeat a curse against herself that would take effect if she was cheating. It was not like pagan trials by fire that required supernatural intervention to prove one is telling the truth, rather it required supernatural intervention to prove one was lying. Anyhow, the point is that MDR was not under the priesthood, but under local civil authority. Even the bill of divorce was written by the man, though later required to be written by scribes and rabbis serving as judges.

The Gentile church really muddied the waters when it misunderstood Jesus' words and subsequently declared marriage a sacrament, under ecclesial authority, and indissoluble. All of which are incorrect biblically speaking. Marriage is not a sacrament, it's a covenant, and not a divine covenant, but a human covenant. Furthermore, marriage is not indissoluble, but is very breakable and should be treated as such. And MDR is under civil authority, not ecclesial. Today, when a pastor or priest marries a couple he/she does so in the name of, under the delegated authority of the state.

Blessings,

Sherman

[ColleenLovesMischief]

The state I live in has no common law marriages. When it did it took living together for 7 yrs to institute it. 7 yrs of living in sin!!!! Yes some of us are punished financially for marriage, but I am one who does not care. I would prefer lose most of my income and struggle (which I know God will provide what I need) than to continue living in sin.

Shalom,

A wise post indeed!! Those men and women living together without the benefit of marriage (legally recognized) are living in SIN.

I definately cannot argue that Vicki. And you definately know when you are doing it. God doesn't let it slip by unnoticed in your spiritual life.

[Eliyahuw]

YOU GO VICKILYNN. There is always going to be somebody who wants to justify sin by twisting the word of God. God was the only High Priest on earth at the time that Adam an Eve were married. While it is true that we don't have to have a church or a priest to get married according to the laws of our land,we do at the very least have to be married by a Justice of the Peace.

Be Blessed

so is that all it takes? i am a priest under the lineage of christ as is every other christian. so i guess that means we can preform our own marraiges.

no i am not twisting, i am asking that the verses be shown that say we must be married by a church or judge or priest.

AND i have repeatedly said that all that is necessary is the comittment (covenant) is made between the couple and God.

Anything else is a contract between the government and the two parties involved.

You are correct about being a priest. Being a Christian qualifies you as a priest of sorts but only if there is not an Ordained priest readally available. I will do some research and see what I can find. The botton line is that if a marraige is not a God sanctified marraige it is an illegal marraige in the eyes of God.

Well I guess you are correct after all. Biblically speaking marriage is a lifetime covenant between a man and a woman. A good gift God gave us is sex for the purpose of showing love to each other and procreation. Any sex out side of that commitment before or after is considered sin. The best that I can tell the bible says nothing about any physical marriage contract or any laws concerning the process to get married. However we are commanded to obey the laws of the land unless they are contrary to the laws of God and being married by a priest or a justice of the peace is not sin in the eyes of God or of men, but we should remember this. Even Jesus has a time when the Bride is gathered to Him, the marraige takes place and a marriage supper accures in celebration of the covenant marriage.

I stand corrected and I apologize for my insult.

Robert

Robert,

You did not insult me at all. I know we are to obey the laws of the land but look at the laws. the laws don't care whether or not were married by the JP or a church. The law only covers making a binding contract concerning assets and liabilities in that marraige. it doesn't care one whit whether or not we are making a convenant or comittment to each other beyond those two things.

According to the law of the land, you don't even have to be married to live together as married people. in fact the law of the land encourages us not to be married! It rewards us for not being married. For example, the marraige tax. if you cohabitate together, you aren't penalized in your tax returns with a lesser amount of deductions.

Also look at how it penalizes you if you are married and are in need of assistance.

So the law of the land isn't any guideline.

[/quot

Today the laws of the land are changing. Wrong is right and right is wrong. So what about the marraige license and the blood test? A JP isn,t supposed to marry any one without it and one can not get a marraige license without a blood test.

blood tests are not required in all states. i don't even know why they would require one anyway.

i never got a blood test. the license is only used for legally binding the assets. When you go into a marraige, your assets are protected if you get a divorce, only those assets that are aquired after the marraige are considered. So basically all the marriage license is, is a business license. thats it. nothing to do with commitment, God or holy matrimony.

[Eliyahuw]

The state I live in has no common law marriages. When it did it took living together for 7 yrs to institute it. 7 yrs of living in sin!!!! Yes some of us are punished financially for marriage, but I am one who does not care. I would prefer lose most of my income and struggle (which I know God will provide what I need) than to continue living in sin.

Shalom,

A wise post indeed!! Those men and women living together without the benefit of marriage (legally recognized) are living in SIN.

Please post the verses specifiying what is a legal marraige

[ColleenLovesMischief]

The state I live in has no common law marriages. When it did it took living together for 7 yrs to institute it. 7 yrs of living in sin!!!! Yes some of us are punished financially for marriage, but I am one who does not care. I would prefer lose most of my income and struggle (which I know God will provide what I need) than to continue living in sin.

Shalom,

A wise post indeed!! Those men and women living together without the benefit of marriage (legally recognized) are living in SIN.

Please post the verses specifiying what is a legal marraige

A legal marriage is what is legal by your governments laws.....

[Eliyahuw]

The state I live in has no common law marriages. When it did it took living together for 7 yrs to institute it. 7 yrs of living in sin!!!! Yes some of us are punished financially for marriage, but I am one who does not care. I would prefer lose most of my income and struggle (which I know God will provide what I need) than to continue living in sin.

Shalom,

A wise post indeed!! Those men and women living together without the benefit of marriage (legally recognized) are living in SIN.

Please post the verses specifiying what is a legal marraige

A legal marriage is what is legal by your governments laws.....

uhhh thats not a bible passage or verse stating thta.

[ColleenLovesMischief]

Romans 13

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4for he is God