Name it and Claim it!

[Guest shadow2b]

-Blab it and grab it group, ha>? What can I say but that they are bunch of heretics. I know many personally and witness them the truth on a weekly bases.

-RIGHT ON BRO.-A-MEN to tha------HAIRRY--TICKS--- :t3: :t3:

-A-MEN TO THE WITNESS OF THE TRUTH TO THEM :t3: :t3: :t3: they need it & don't even know it

[Guest shadow2b]

-I wonder what ever happened to Saint John and Annointed to Teach, who wer zealous preachers of this typeo f doctrine.

-I think they finally got the "message"that their "message"was NOT gonna fly here at all...

-Just like all the rest of those that have a sanctimonious--holier-than-thou-dogmatic-legalistic-clap-

-trap-attitude-eventually "discover" "that" junk won't fly here either... :x: {IMHO}

[GymRose]

I believe in it to an extent. Yes you need to ask God and you don't have to beg. I know certain scriptures about it and will look them up. But basically it is in accordance with Gods will. God gives us the desires of our hearts, I have been taught this means God places his desires for us in our hearts to ask him for our needs according to what he has placed in our heart. Not things that are material or not of God. Not material unless you really are prompted by the Holy Spirtit to pray in that way.

The difference between a young lad praying for a hotted up car cause he wants to go fast and look hot and a church praying for a bus or a church member praying for a car to help with tranportation problems with in a church.........

[refugepsa91]

refugepsa91--

Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers. Galatians 6:7-10

Thanks andrew thats the one...but in the church I was at..of course the whole verse wasn't used they liked to put a period where there was a comma :x:

Heres some more they used to use...

To have answered prayer. 1 john 5:14

Prosperity=He became poor so that we could become rich. 2Corinthians 8:9

^now they explained that seed=money....and the fruit=our rewards (material things mind you)

this church was really good at making you think that God wanted you to have all the good stuff....big houses...nice cars..clothes....jewelry...etc...and one of the saddest things was that they also teach this same philosiphy in the childrens church...my children came out one night with a picture they colored and it was of an elderly lady standing on her porch and you could see her yard had been raked by a child...but this child was holding up money fanned out in his hand...I wish I could remember the verse they used...anyway that did it for me...I was already getting suspicious of the church by this time...and I made sure I told both my kids right in front of the childrens pastor that "The christian thing to do would be to rake her yard out of love...not for money!"

As far as answered prayer God does answer all our prayers but the fact is sometimes the answer in NO. And I trust His judgement alot more than I do mine

And you have to remember these church's do use just a little truth...but mostly they twist scripture around to fit their needs...which is to get more money from you so THEY can live richly.

Just my two cents though :x:

Love and Blessings,

Angel H.

[Catsmeow]

Angel,

I remember you sharing this with us before and it's still just as astounding to hear about these predators .... actually prey on little children's minds to coerce them into making these wolves richer than rich.

It seems sad that people are without a heart and think only about themselves. How utterly sad that they had reached that level of spiritual decay.

[Guest shadow2b]

-As far as answered prayer God does answer all our prayers but the fact is sometimes the answer in NO. And I trust His judgement alot more than I do mine 

And you have to remember these church's do use just a little truth...but mostly they twist scripture around to fit their needs...which is to get more money from you so THEY can live richly.

Just my two cents though

Love and Blessings,

Angel H.

-YUPP--you got thet RIGHT Angels H.-I kinda like yo 2cents werth too..YUPP THEY live the A-bundant

-life....been thaRr---Done theTt--no--mo-tho--thanky--maam- :t3: :t3: yu gits a big :hug: hug

[GymRose]

As far as answered prayer God does answer all our prayers but the fact is sometimes the answer in NO. And I trust His judgement alot more than I do mine

Thank God for those prayers that are answered with no, not with the intent to hurt our spirit but because He loves us and knows what is best for us. Even though us adults act like spoil children ( which we are his children ) He loves us enough to say no to all our wants and sometimes blesses us with our wants that wont harm us. If only we as parents on Earth could learn that wisdom from our Abba Father ( Daddy ). He is an amazing Father who we can trust totally.

[Blood Stained Soul]

Fellow Saints,

May the Lord Bless HIS Church! The name it, blab it, have a limo to have victory crowd jerk my chain. Them and the Prosperity Crowd miss a major thing Christ said when the Apostles were gettnig mad over the expensive nard that was dumped on Jesus head. They talked about the thing being sold and given to the poor, Jesus said in response that we would always have the poor with us. So apparently Gods Word does not teach we all have to have a huge load of cash, a mansion, and 4 cars to have the victory! Anyway...thats just how I see it, and I enjoy being poor in the world eyes but rich in Christ!

[Work in Progress]

Yippy, if you want that new car, why you just step out in faith and write a check for it and God will see to it that money is in the bank Monday morning!

I do believe Jesus meant for that verse to be used with a small grain of common sense, ya know?

Amen, Ronald. 'Nuff said.

[GymRose]

Yippy, if you want that new car, why you just step out in faith and write a check for it and God will see to it that money is in the bank Monday morning!

I do believe Jesus meant for that verse to be used with a small grain of common sense, ya know?

Amen, Ronald. 'Nuff said.

I have heard of someone who actually did this and they were right with Gods leading ( for them ). Then the pastor who spoke about it said how he copied the same move and "really, really " LOL felt God was leading him only to find it wasn't God but him wanting the same.

I do think God can move in this way but you'd wanna be real sure it's God.

Our pastor now uses his story to illustrate God's will versus our materialistic hopes.