Hate Crime

[backontrack]

If the current hate crime legislation passes through congress nation wide (for all states) it will be impossible to say behind the Pulpit that Homosexuality is a sin. One could face prison along with a stiff fine!

Example true story!

(This law is on the books in Wisconsin)

An ex Gay guy sees a bumper sticker in Wisconsin at a car wash. The bumper sticker says proud to be Gay! Thinking what an opportunity to share about God! The ex Gay guy approaches this individual with the bumper sticker to testify about his conversion from Gay to strait and how God showed him his loving saving grace and healed him of this life style. Thinking his testimony could maybe help this Gay guy consider options about how God could also help him. But a few months later the Gay guy takes him to court about it. The poor ex Gay guy who talked to this guy about God in a nice way almost went to prison for a year and had to pay this guy an out of court settlement for WHITNESSING to him plus the judge gave him 30 days community service for this so called (hate crime).

If your interested in calling an 800 number to tell your representatives in your state to not vote for this hate crime bill legislation here's the number.

1-800-942-1974

I think we are living in the Last days and we as Christians better stand up for what is right! Their are so many lost souls who need Jesus and salvation!

Concered!

[Guest]

Their are so many lost souls who need Jesus and salvation!

For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

1 Corinthians 2:2

[Zadok Rox]

That is insane for that homosexual to take the former-homosexual to court for witnessing to him. The Christian should of called the American Center for Law and Justice or some other Christian legal organization to argue his case for him.

backontrack, do you know what the Congressial number for the "hate crime" bill is?

[femelle]

I am a little fuzzy on what constitutes a 'hate crime'. I thought it was a collective thing about stiring people up or inciting to riot. Maybe it only is in Britain.

I would wonder if the judge who ruled in this case did not make an error. I also wonder if the decision could have been overturned.

Seems a little arbitrary to me.

[None]

It may have been an error but it probably helps the devil's cause in preventing Christians from shedding light on that area of sin. Why it's good to know the laws.

[Zadok Rox]

I am a little fuzzy on what constitutes a 'hate crime'. I thought it was a collective thing about stiring people up or inciting to riot...

Some people fear that preachers would incite violence against homosexuals just by saying that homosexuality is a sin. How many times have any of you seen somebody beat up or kill somebody who was making a pig of themselves at a restaurant just because the suspect's pastor had spoken against gluttony?

[None]

I am a little fuzzy on what constitutes a 'hate crime'. I thought it was a collective thing about stiring people up or inciting to riot...

Some people fear that preachers would incite violence against homosexuals just by saying that homosexuality is a sin. How many times have any of you seen somebody beat up or kill somebody who was making a pig of themselves at a restaurant just because the suspect's pastor had spoken against gluttony?

It certainly should make perfect sense...to sensibly thinking people, at least. Remember that satan is crafty. Satan is the father of lies and he uses different tactics with different sins. I believe that males are more inclined to commit a hate crime against another male because of their own personal fears or lust for domination. If they were to use an excuse for their actions it would undoubtedly be religious beliefs, causing victory in several areas of satan's line of offence against us.

[Burning_Ember]

I've read the hate crime bill(s) in question SEVERAL times. Unless you commit a felony which is a Crime of Violence, in the context of attempts at bodily harm by using firearms, explosives, or fire, then its not a hate crime.

The bills only apply to Violent crimes. It has nothing to do with preaching about homosexuality. Unless of course, your pastor beats, shoots, sets fire to, or uses an explosive device gainst a homosexual as part of the sermon.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-1105

Read it for yourselves.

[OneLight]

This does not surprise me. If we walk with the Lord, we will be treated as He was. This is to be expected. We will notice that the world will become darker as the day of the Lord draws near.

[OneLight]

I've read the hate crime bill(s) in question SEVERAL times. Unless you commit a felony which is a Crime of Violence, in the context of attempts at bodily harm by using firearms, explosives, or fire, then its not a hate crime.

The bills only apply to Violent crimes. It has nothing to do with preaching about homosexuality. Unless of course, your pastor beats, shoots, sets fire to, or uses an explosive device gainst a homosexual as part of the sermon.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-1105

Read it for yourselves.

I found this:

SEC. 4. SUPPORT FOR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS AND PROSECUTIONS BY STATE, LOCAL, AND TRIBAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS.

(a) Assistance Other Than Financial Assistance-

(1) IN GENERAL- At the request of State, local, or Tribal law enforcement agency, the Attorney General may provide technical, forensic, prosecutorial, or any other form of assistance in the criminal investigation or prosecution of any crime that--

(A) constitutes a crime of violence;

(B) constitutes a felony under the State, local, or Tribal laws; and

© is motivated by prejudice based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of the victim, or is a violation of the State, local, or Tribal hate crime laws.

The bold is added by me to point to this section. I'm not sure if this means it is a hate crime, but only that they have the obligation to assist?