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Hey, if you want to be cool you have to be part of the gay agenda. It makes you a well rounded human being don't you know. :thumbsup:

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1) How does a character in a book being gay diminish them? Unless of course, Gays are to be treated as a second class.

2) Anybody who claims that Dumbledore being gay in a book is an attack on Christianity and an attempt to persecute Christians (or something like that) is showing signs of a persecution complex. Really.

A gay person, by existing, does not affect you.


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SHOCK VALUE!!!

Rowling covers quite a bit of detail about Dumbledore's history and at no point did she even come close to hinting anything like this.

Maybe she knew the person asking the question was a bigoted homophobe and she wanted to take a stab at them. Who knows !?! She's finished writing the series and probably has her money guaranteed from the movie rights so maybe she was a little loose with the tongue. Ugh!!!


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1) How does a character in a book being gay diminish them? Unless of course, Gays are to be treated as a second class.

2) Anybody who claims that Dumbledore being gay in a book is an attack on Christianity and an attempt to persecute Christians (or something like that) is showing signs of a persecution complex. Really.

A gay person, by existing, does not affect you.

Um. A gay person, when you MARRY one, does quite affect you. I know.

Anita

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One thing that strikes me in all of this is that Christians are the target of so much antagonism. We aren't the only people opposed to homosexual behavior, but yet that lifestyle is waived as a red flag to enrage Christians. The books are about good vs evil, so why not just leave it there. Why inflame Christians? Why not say that Voldemort was a Muslim terrorist? That would have incited some real anger towards her. It just seems to me that everywhere you turn, attempts are being made to make Christians out to be the bad guys.

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Nathele

Notice that she was smart enough to wait until the series is over and she made her fortune first before bringing forth this revelation. I know a lot of nonChristians who are as opposed homosexuality as Christians, as you have said.

I can't help but wonder is this was really just an afterthought, since I don't think Dumbledore's homosexuality came through in the movies or any of the other novels. She is saying this now, but I wonder if that was her original intent.


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You do know that the story of "Harry Potter and the philosphers stone" has some similarities to the bible?

Lily Potter died so that her son may live. Jesus died so that we may have eternal life.

Harry V Voldemort. Jesus V Lucifer.

Harry was hated by those he was trying to save. The teachers hated Jesus and he was trying to save them.

In the final book of Harry Potter "Harry Potter and the deathly hallows" Harry dies so that he can save those he loves, then is resurrected. Jesus dies and is resurrected.

There is another one also at the end of Harry Potter 7 but i've only read it once and can't remember what it is.

I'm not saying the Harry Potter books are good because they are actually really addictive for some strange reason and people love these books way too much to be healthy but i feel that they can't be insulted for their theme of witchcraft and wizardry and homosexuality.

The witchcraft and wizardry theme is only a bit of harmless fun, its not like wicca, it doesn't involve ordinary people practising wicca, and it rarely results in it. The homosexuality parts.... well if your going to have a go at the Harry Potter books for having a bit of homosexuality in it then there are a lot more things you could be having a go at for including homosexuality (including Shakespeare!) and again homosexuality is not encouraged by the books.

I feel these books is slandered too much and is critisised too much. There are many other books in the world that could be slandered for doing much worse things but Harry Potter is singled out.

Again, I'm not saying the Harry Potter books are good, I just don't believe their as bad as everyone makes them out to be, i feel their undeserving to the slander that they receive.

But thats my opinion, your free to make your own. Either way. :emot-highfive:

Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Deuteronomy 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,

11.Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard or a necromancer.

12.For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

There are other scriptures about witchcraft but those let us know how God feels about it. I'm sure you already know those about homosexuality.

It can't be a good thing to give these books to our children when it is about something so against what God teaches. Rowling weaves a story where some see good things in it. That sounds a great deal like the serpent in the garden!

So.....I, as you, question why they are addictive, "for some strange reason." Why have those books so captured people? Why do some children stay up all night reading them when they never liked to read before? Why would parents buy and condone these books when God is so against what the book is about? Why has Rowling become so wealthy in such a short time? Would the books have been so accepted if she, at the beginning, stated what she did about the character being homosexual? What do you think she will do in the next book....how much farther away from God will she take it? Does anyone really believe those books are worth all of that? Strange indeed!

It is, as you said, a choice everyone makes on their own but it does concern me.

.........Whirlwind

You do know that the story of "Harry Potter and the philosphers stone" has some similarities to the bible?

I'm not saying the Harry Potter books are good because they are actually really addictive for some strange reason and people love these books way too much to be healthy but i feel that they can't be insulted for their theme of witchcraft and wizardry and homosexuality.

The witchcraft and wizardry theme is only a bit of harmless fun, its not like wicca, it doesn't involve ordinary people practising wicca, and it rarely results in it.

I feel these books is slandered too much and is critisised too much. There are many other books in the world that could be slandered for doing much worse things but Harry Potter is singled out.

Again, I'm not saying the Harry Potter books are good, I just don't believe their as bad as everyone makes them out to be, i feel their undeserving to the slander that they receive.

You really need to open your eyes and heart to see how bad and dangerous these books are. Witchcraft and wizard theme is central to everything, just about everyone is a witch or wizard and practices magic. As for ordinary people, you missed point completely. The point is , Harry Potter etc ARE "normal " people, the book is based on and in the HERE and NOW. this is mainly why its so popular, people can related to the Characters as most are human. Children relate to poor Harry living with evil relations abused with no purpose in life, but suddenly being transported into a supernatural world that exists alongside the normal world, only people with the gift can see this world and the portals etc, Hogwarts express for example.

AS for being harmless, far from it,Witchcraft and Spell casting do not necessary come under WICCA, WICCA is jsut one form of the occult, I wont go on about WICCA but many people in WICCA often distance themsleves from OCCULT practices and say its not the same but it is. Any kind of magic is forbiden by God, Harry Potter does encourage children to try spell casting for real and leads children into occult, I have witnessed this first hand a number of times over the years.

These books are the tools of Satan and Satan is happy that so many children have become obsessed with the occult and supernatural which takes them away from God. Another way Satan is working with this now is to promote homosexuality is normal and acceptable, something that is disgusting to God.

What makes Harry Potter so dangerous is its popularity amongst the chidlren and adults of the world and many will turn to one of Satans many disgusting religions and cults that will lead them into all kinds of problems with demons and make turning to God even more difficult.

These books do encourage chidlren to get invovled with witchcraft and the occult,

That's the way of the devil I think. He wants people to believe anything but the Truth.

Correct and what better way to spread lies and entice people into the occult than via a popular work of fiction that just about every child embraces and loves.

Isaiah 47:9 Both of these will overtake you in a moment, on a single day: loss of children and widowhood. They will come upon you in full measure, in spite of your many sorceries and all your potent spells.

Isaiah 47:12

"Keep on, then, with your magic spells and with your many sorceries, which you have labored at since childhood. Perhaps you will succeed, perhaps you will cause terror.

Nahum 3:4

all because of the wanton lust of a harlot, alluring, the mistress of sorceries, who enslaved nations by her prostitution and peoples by her witchcraft.

In His Truth,

Suzanne

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I was watching a lady on TV who is a professor of pop culture at the local university talking about this...she figures it was done to draw more media attention. After all, why else would she suddenly say this when the books are all finished and there was never, in a single one of them, any mention or hint of it?

That's exactly what I thought, well put! :emot-highfive:

Hey, if you want to be cool you have to be part of the gay agenda. It makes you a well rounded human being don't you know. :laugh:

:blink:

SHOCK VALUE!!!

Rowling covers quite a bit of detail about Dumbledore's history and at no point did she even come close to hinting anything like this.

Maybe she knew the person asking the question was a bigoted homophobe and she wanted to take a stab at them. Who knows !?! She's finished writing the series and probably has her money guaranteed from the movie rights so maybe she was a little loose with the tongue. Ugh!!!

Doesn't it say in the Bible our sins will be found out? :emot-hug:

Her's have just come from her own mouth. :laugh:


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Gee.....what a great way to get kids to ADMIRE homosexuals! :emot-highfive:

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One thing that strikes me in all of this is that Christians are the target of so much antagonism. We aren't the only people opposed to homosexual behavior, but yet that lifestyle is waived as a red flag to enrage Christians. The books are about good vs evil, so why not just leave it there. Why inflame Christians? Why not say that Voldemort was a Muslim terrorist? That would have incited some real anger towards her. It just seems to me that everywhere you turn, attempts are being made to make Christians out to be the bad guys.

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Nathele

Notice that she was smart enough to wait until the series is over and she made her fortune first before bringing forth this revelation. I know a lot of nonChristians who are as opposed homosexuality as Christians, as you have said.

I can't help but wonder is this was really just an afterthought, since I don't think Dumbledore's homosexuality came through in the movies or any of the other novels. She is saying this now, but I wonder if that was her original intent.

I wonder if this is the way of the LORD telling us that the heart of this woman is bad and her books are not as harmless as some might think.............. :emot-highfive:

PSALM 1:1-3

1Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

2But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

3And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.


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I can't help but wonder is this was really just an afterthought, since I don't think Dumbledore's homosexuality came through in the movies or any of the other novels. She is saying this now, but I wonder if that was her original intent.

Since she directly referenced a "friendship" Dumbeldore had in the past, revealed in the last book, it sure does sound this way to me.

Also note how all along the defense for the series has been "the power of love." Yet now she is saying Dumbeldore's love was his failure.

Gee.....what a great way to get kids to ADMIRE homosexuals! :rolleyes:

I'm concerned about this, too.

I wonder if this is the way of the LORD telling us that the heart of this woman is bad and her books are not as harmless as some might think.............. :taped:

You put that well. I wonder, too.

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