Pastors: Called to Preach, Called to Study

[damo1]

damo1

to exrockstar

whats the matter no formal come back to what i left you i am going to be puting my self so i can understand greek and hebrew since people seem to feel comfterbal with those that are educated also i am going to have to work a second job just to meet the fees that are expected but to me that peace of paper and what i am going to spend on fees means not a thing to me

i study i read gods word every day i learn also from those that are educated as i have one respect i have even sevral educated people backing me up once my citazen ship is aproved to the live in the philippines so much for some one like my self who is very ilitterate yet when god impacted my life to the point wear i submitted my self to those around me and i alowed my self to be taught by the very smartest that came out of bible collage i soon began to do as christ taught his disciples

i am also reading up on greek and hebrew now but their is so much a person on his own can take in and to even learn the old symbals and what they mean

when i share i tread in fear and in caution so i do not place judgment on my own head as people who lead and teach and preach are judged very harshly by god him self

when i got asked to help my partner and i was even told i wil be ordained and raised from with in i at first said let me think about it as too be honest exrock star i did not want the burden that is placed on those that are called to lead and preach and teach gods people

my pastor who took over this church was just like me i got my leaders and my pastor to pray with sevral others as wel and i was told that this is the path god wants me on

what gets up my nose is the smart aleck comments left with out even seeing or respecting that a person typing away in cyber space has feelings as wel and should have a say in how they share on a topic with out hearing every one is an expert it realy just shows me what sort of person you are and how narrow minded your posts you leave are

tel me something how many people have you been able to lead and say the sinners prayer and then have them under your wing and mentor them and encourage them to walk and learn how to use their god given gifts

when i do get approved to live in the philppines and apply for bible collage i am going to have to push my self to just meet the needs asked of a bibl collage student then i am going to have to force my self to study and make sure when i do essays i am doing as asked by my teachers

i have help and i am glad for the help i am getting

so much for what christ passed on to his disciples its as if now you have to under stand greek and hebrew just to be heard

what a joke no wonder i responded to some one like my self but hay i am with in no rights to judge but alow the holy spirit to brodden my mind

and at the end when i get that worthless peace of paper i am stil going to be me but a little more advanced yet its not going to stop me from sitting on a gutter and sharing the word or walking into a run down building and sitting on a dirty floor talking to a home less man

as i know wear i came from and i have never forgotten that and alowed pride to get in the way

thanks exrock star i found what you have had to say worthless

but i am not angry at you i am with in no right to be angry as this is just a forum wear people share their thoughts

peace from damo

not a problem my friend. i wish you luck in your journey.

damo1 to exrock star

thank you my friend i did not mean to jump on you like that god has just put some very wel educated people around me and its just amzed me to how he has done this and yes its good to under stand greek and hebrews but boy so much reading and joting things down you have a good week and may gods peace be with you threw out the week from your brother in the lord damo

[OneLight]

Even though I have nothing against educated people, I'll prefer the Holy Spirit to teach me.

Holy Spirit enlightens.

If you have a great attitude and beautiful smile then how is He going to enlighten you?

thats why education makes a difference.

He teaches me the Word of God. Does He teach you also?

[exrockstar]

Even though I have nothing against educated people, I'll prefer the Holy Spirit to teach me.

Holy Spirit enlightens.

If you have a great attitude and beautiful smile then how is He going to enlighten you?

thats why education makes a difference.

He teaches me the Word of God. Does He teach you also?

thats great. next time we have these threads that go on to 20 pages....maybe you can step in because

10 others members are claiming the same thing.

[Matthitjah]

I think that a pastor should have a love for the Word of God. I do not think that a formal education is necessary. The best, most knowledgable pastor I know did not attend seminary. The most useless, dry, lazy, pastor I know has two Doctorite degreess. He is a wealth of worthless information, but has no love for Christ or for his bretheren. Knowledge is important, but a proper heart is much more important.

Why, hr.jr. would you trust someone who merely has a heart for it? I have a heart for medicine but have not yet been to medical school. Mind if i perform surgery on you? No? Why not? I have a heart for it. There are doctors with MD's that have left tools in patients and have fumbled the most minor of precedures, and have no love for medicine.

I think its a pastors responsibility to know everything there is to know about the subject he or she is teaching. How foolish are we to entrust our minds to someone who merely has a heart for it. Without knowledge how can we learn.

I agree their heart needs to be in the right place. Lets not deprioritize knowledge.

The problem with what you say is, surgeons do not have the Holy Spirit to guide them and counsel them.

So? So all surgeons are going to fail because they dont have your Holy Spirit there to guide them? No, they're educated. There are thousands of surgeons who don't even believe in God. I work in a hospital, and i see dozens of surgeons. The couple that i know don't believe in Christ. Yet one of them is the most respected brain surgeon, and has created a new innnovative way to perform brain surgery.

So its obvious surgeons dont need the Holy Spirit. So your point is now irrelevant.

Grace to you,

I don't necessarily believe his point is irrelevant.

I believe that you are misunderstanidng his point though.

Paul said this;

1Co

[OneLight]

Even though I have nothing against educated people, I'll prefer the Holy Spirit to teach me.

Holy Spirit enlightens.

If you have a great attitude and beautiful smile then how is He going to enlighten you?

thats why education makes a difference.

He teaches me the Word of God. Does He teach you also?

thats great. next time we have these threads that go on to 20 pages....maybe you can step in because

10 others members are claiming the same thing.

I really don't understand why you would reply this way. It's a simple question. BTW ... I see only 3 pages.