Question Aboyt Tything

[stan4257]

The tithing laws were a part of the Mosaic Law Covenant.

Abraham gave tithe to Melchisedec b4 Moses ever existed much less b4 The mosaic law covenant.

I did not say that but quoted Shad as saying that. What I did say was that I agreed with Shad, and still do. The fact that tithing existed before the covenant with Moses does not change the relevance of what tithing meant in the time of Moses, and how it was superseded, replaced, taken over by the once and only and finished for ever sacrifice of Jesus Christ for us on the cross.

But I agree that it was the custom to tithe before Moses, and thank you for pointing that out.

You are welcome ,and out of a loving heart for Jesus not out of necessity or oblagation we should continue to pay tithe still today.

That changes what I said, though of course I don't mind, so long as what I said and believe is not misunderstood.

Right or wrong, what I believe is that by trying to emulate the 10% tithing law of the OT, which I believe does not apply to us as Christians, we limit our response to Jesus Christ.

It is relatively easy to follow the OT law of tithes and keep the 90% balance as if it is our right, whereas I believe that once we accept the final sacrifice of Jesus Christ on our behalf it is belittling to that relationship to suggest that in response we only have to give 10% of what we earn and have then satisfied our obligation. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ has no money value. It is above price.

Nor am I saying that it should necessarily be more than 10% All we have belongs to Jesus Christ, and what we keep to meet our needs is whatever we can spare in love for what Jesus Christ did for us by dying on the cross. If it is 1%, the widows mite, then that is glory to God. If we are a millionaire, then 10% of our income leaves us with far more than we need to meet our needs. Instituting a rule about a fixed amount tends to hide the truth that there is no amount sufficient in return for the love of God, not is any amount too small to satisfy God if that is all we can afford.

Like you say, onwingsaseagles, "out of a loving heart for Jesus not out of necessity or obligation . . . ."

The only difference between us, if there is any, is that you advocate a fixed amount and I do not.

But please be sure, I don't mind if I am wrong, nor am I arguing that all should agree with me. What I am saying is that this is what I believe and this is what I do.

For all of us, we make our own decisions within the love of Christ that is in us.

[tsth]

Note Jesus' conversation with the Pharisee. He did not command to "stop" tithing, but rather to give with a "right" heart, before God. Jesus pointedly defines the continuing tithe, with a right heart!

Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

Luke 11:42 "Woe to you Pharisees, because you give God a tenth of your mint, rue and all other kinds of garden herbs, but you neglect justice and the love of God. You should have practiced the latter without leaving the former undone.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Guest IamHISforever2]

The Bible says "ten percent of the first fruits of your crops..."....Whenever I receive my paycheck I set aside 10 percent first for tithes. And that

[HeatherEljohari]

Once we tithe..... This is going to sound foolish, im sure lol... Who do we can the 10% or more too. Churches, Needy, Poor etc... Doesnt matter, im assuming? any comments on this idea?

God bless

Heather

[Natt]

I know the bible states that we are to tithe 10% of our income by question is are you supposed to tithe 10% of each weekly check or 10% of your combined yearly salary??

Shad give whatever is in your heart to give. If that is 10% every pay check give it then. If it an annual amount give that.

2 Corinthians 9:7

Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver

If you feel that in your heart that you should tithe then tithe.

Tithing is a Mosaic Law.

Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

Luke 11:42 "Woe to you Pharisees, because you give God a tenth of your mint, rue and all other kinds of garden herbs, but you neglect justice and the love of God. You should have practiced the latter without leaving the former undone.

The Pharisees Jesus was talking to were Jews and were under the Mosaic Law. Gentiles are not under that law. Interestingly, in all the letters that were written to the Gentiles, not one discussed tithing. Generousity was encouraged, but God wants our hearts not our money.

Churches though need our generousity to enable its work. To some a tithe is not that generous and for others a real sacrifice.

[MeCajunboy]

I know the bible states that we are to tithe 10% of our income by question is are you supposed to tithe 10% of each weekly check or 10% of your combined yearly salary??

Shad,

The tithing laws were a part of the Mosaic Law Covenant. The tithes were given to the Levites because they were of the priestly tribe and did not receive an inheritance when the twelve tribes divided up the promised land. The Levites did not have land so a tenth of each of the other tribes was given to them so they could carry on the work of the priests and support the tabernacle and later the temple.

The Mosaic Law Covenant was superceded by the New Covenant at the time of Jesus' death, Heb 8:6-13, Col 2:13,14.

Everyone under the Mosaic Law were under a curse, because they could not obey the law perfectly, Gal 3:10-13, 2Cor 3:6,7,Acts 15:10, James 2:10, Rom 6:23.

Because Jesus died to take away the law, Christians have never been under the Mosaic Law Covenant, Rom 7:4-6, 8:1-4, Rom 6:14,15.

Hi Shad,

It might interest you all to know that "tything" or giving a portion of what you have in God's name, is mentioned at least 6 times in the Old Testament, yet it is explained again and again at least 8 times in the New Testament.

Also brother, I want to reference the "LAW of God." Luke 16:16 (Unti John the Baptist began to preach, the laws of Moses and the messages of the prophets were your guides. But now the Good News of the Kingdom of God is preached, and eager multitudes are forcing their way in. But that doesn't mean that the law has lost its force in even the smallest point. It is stronger and more permanent than heaven and earth.

In another script Luke 10:25 we see another example of what it means to carry on the "Law" into the New Testament (One day an expert in religious law stood up to test Jesus by asking him this question: "Teacher, what must I do to receive eternal life?" 26. Jesus replied, "What does the law of Moses say? Hos do you read it?" 27. The man answered, "You must love the Lord you God with all your heart, all your soul, all your strength, and all your mind. And, "Love your neighbor as yourself." "Right!" Jesus told him. "Do this and you will live."

Shad , I do not see the Mosaic Law Covenant being taken away because Jesus died for man's sins. I see Jesus adding and further explaining each Law of the Covenant. For instance, If you see some out in the cold and needs clothing, give him YOUR own coat, or "if you owe a debt to someone, go immediately and settle the debt with that person, don't let the sun set before you settle the debt if you are able."

[exrockstar]

tithing supported the temple.

the temple had a high priest and animal sacrifices.

do we need a high priest? no.

do we sacrifice? no.

but religion won't tell you that because they'll go out of business.

however, do support because it does take $ to turn on the lights.

[irishcowboy]

I know the bible states that we are to tithe 10% of our income by question is are you supposed to tithe 10% of each weekly check or 10% of your combined yearly salary??

Tithing is an area that is very rarely met by Christians....

if all church goers would tithe on their increase, there would be no need for bake sales, fund raisers, welfare, srs, or even social security.... nor would there be a need for missionaries to be going from church to church to find support going over seas some where.....

other then money.... should we also be tithing our time???? that would mean that we give no less then 2.4 hours every day to the Lord..... most church goers do not even give that time a week by going to church on Sunday.......

just something to think about....

we teach that we are to give the tithe off of our first fruits, not what is left over..... if a paycheck is a monthly check, then as soon as the check comes in then the first 10% goes to God.... write that check first.... then do the yourself 10% and then do the house, elect, water, gas, car fuel...... so forth and so on.... .GOD FIRST.... if it is an annual check then do the same, if it is a weekly check then also do the same, the first tithe.....

mike

[exrockstar]

I know the bible states that we are to tithe 10% of our income by question is are you supposed to tithe 10% of each weekly check or 10% of your combined yearly salary??

Tithing is an area that is very rarely met by Christians....

if all church goers would tithe on their increase, there would be no need for bake sales, fund raisers, welfare, srs, or even social security.... nor would there be a need for missionaries to be going from church to church to find support going over seas some where.....

other then money.... should we also be tithing our time???? that would mean that we give no less then 2.4 hours every day to the Lord..... most church goers do not even give that time a week by going to church on Sunday.......

just something to think about....

we teach that we are to give the tithe off of our first fruits, not what is left over..... if a paycheck is a monthly check, then as soon as the check comes in then the first 10% goes to God.... write that check first.... then do the yourself 10% and then do the house, elect, water, gas, car fuel...... so forth and so on.... .GOD FIRST.... if it is an annual check then do the same, if it is a weekly check then also do the same, the first tithe.....

mike

"God first" with money?

This is definately the message that religion sends.

[exrockstar]

God first in EVERYTHING,put God in his proper place as #1 in your life,finance ect.....,God should be above all,including ourselves.

"Put God in His place..."and that is by money/finaces?! lol

i tried to look at your profile to find out your age.

how old are you? ive been curious.