One more then another?

[OneLight]

In another thread, I was discussing with our brother Ddavid from NC about sin. I see sin as sin, all which will keep you out of the presence of God if you are not forgiven for you sin. Ddavid did not disagree, but stated that:

Sins in earthly consequences are graded according to severity and ramifications

I would like to open a discussion on both ideas, which may run together at some point.

• Is one sin is greater then another?
  
  • Are graded differently?
    

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  Your thoughts?

  OneLight

[traveller]

I think that actions which hurt others cause different consequences than those that don't. I say that simply because of actions and reactions - as an event is propelled forward by others. In other words, murder affects so many people. The victims family members are affected and could - because of the death of thier loved one - react in such a way as to cause further calamity. Compare this to lying to your parents about where you've been when you come home late. Of course both sins are sins - but the pain caused and the consequences of the actions in the here and now are vastly different.

Is this what you mean?

[thunderbyrd]

of course there are different degrees of sin. common sense tells us that: a man is alone in a woods, chopping wood with an axe. he makes a mis-stroke and then utters a profane oath. that is a sin.

a man in grocery store parking lot gets into an argument with another man, then pulls a pistol from his pocket and kills the other man. this is a greater sin.

in this most obvious and extreme example, one sin brings greater destruction than another.

[Guest Jazzyheather]

I think sin is sin! No matter if you stump your toe or your curse someone out in the mall parking lot it is sin.

And if you think about it! God doesn't weigh your sin and decide how much to forgive you, he forgives and forgets. Plain and Simple!

Sin is sin ~ Forgiveness is forgivness. It is a black and white matter to me.

[psalmone]

Men may have grades of the non-acceptability of sin, though God would require confession of all and of a contrite heart. Not all things are expedient because certain things are difficult to even to confess and some can be tormented of such for an extended time.

[jackie d]

Men may have grades of the non-acceptability of sin, though God would require confession of all and of a contrite heart. Not all things are expedient because certain things are difficult to even to confess and some can be tormented of such for an extended time.

amen

[Vickilynn]

In another thread, I was discussing with our brother Ddavid from NC about sin. I see sin as sin, all which will keep you out of the presence of God if you are not forgiven for you sin. Ddavid did not disagree, but stated that:

Sins in earthly consequences are graded according to severity and ramifications

I would like to open a discussion on both ideas, which may run together at some point.

• Is one sin is greater then another?
  
  • Are graded differently?
    

  .

  Your thoughts?

  OneLight

  Shalom OneLight,

  I believe the Scriptures are our authority. It really doesn't matter what we think, what matters is what G-d says. As I read the Scriptures, I don't see any "grading" system for sin. I see sin as sin and all of it hurts the heart of G-d.

  I think we humans see different sins differently, like our Justice System and perhaps we should, as Traveller said, if we cause harm to others, that is more egregious than speeding in our car not hurting anyone, but still breaking the Law.

  However, we humans cannot judge the heart of the person, only G-d can.

  Also, we do not see the sin as G-d sees it.

  So, bottom line, while WE think there are grades to sin, I don't see that in the Scriptures. Sin is sin and all sin separates us from G-d unless we truly repent before the L-rd.

[traveller]

Sin IS sin. The OP's question is whether or not earthly consequences are different. At least that was my understanding.

[Vickilynn]

Sin IS sin. The OP's question is whether or not earthly consequences are different. At least that was my understanding.

Shalom Traveller,

The consequences from whom, man or G-d? OneLight, can you please clarify?

[OneLight]

Sin IS sin. The OP's question is whether or not earthly consequences are different. At least that was my understanding.

Shalom Traveller,

The consequences from whom, man or G-d? OneLight, can you please clarify?

The blame for confusion does lie directly on me. I can see that I have been talking about sin not being able to be in the presence of God, while Ddavid was talking of the earthly consequences of sin, such as how much they hurt others. This is also the confusion in the other thread.

To take this in the full circle, there has been no wrong answers, for I had tried to compare apples to oranges. I was speaking of the spiritual and he was speaking of the worldly.

The only quick reference I was able to find in the Bible, concerning one being greater then another, was when one city was compared to another, in Matthew 11:20-24.

Then He began to rebuke the cities in which most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not repent: