McCain

[nebula]

You jest, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. Lieberman has been seen by his side frequently already this year.

It would still be amusing . . . from that perspective.

[tah]

Interesting you should say that..andrew came in the other day with that scenario..

but I am not amused...

what a mess the reps are...

[Guest yod]

OK, trying to be a little silly in all of this . . .

Imagine if McCain chose Joe Lieberman to be his running mate.

Then you would have a liberal conservative running with a conservative liberal.

You jest, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. Lieberman has been seen by his side frequently already this year.

Outside of Huckabee, Liberman is the only other person (politically) who could help McCain win the election because he would carry conservative democrats. Probably is, there aren't enough of them.

We allowed ourselves to get into a situation where our choices are all wicked. McCain is the only choice we have if we want to defeat Islamofascism...and if we do not do that, we should all start measuring our wives/daughters for burkas.

[kat8585]

McCain made a nice speech yesterday, but words don't make up for his past actions. Only time will tell if he is sincere.

He is blatantly lying. He's just like the Clintons in that respect, saying anything to get elected.

The only thing he would be better on is the war. Other than that all 3 are alike.

[dgolvach]

McCain made a nice speech yesterday, but words don't make up for his past actions. Only time will tell if he is sincere.

He is blatantly lying. He's just like the Clintons in that respect, saying anything to get elected.

The only thing he would be better on is the war. Other than that all 3 are alike.

Kat ...I agree that he would be better on the war. Isn't that enough reason to not allow one of the other two to get in power. We can get a cold or we can catch pneumonia. I'll take the cold. I wish the GOP could have come up with something better but they failed to and it still beats what the Dems have to offer. McCain has sided with conservatives on a few other social issues. Its sad that this is all we have to choose from but its just where we are.

Dan

[Axxman]

I am by NO MEANS excited about John McCain for President...but you are all missing a couple of HUGE points...

A) McCain is conservative on budget matters. He is against raising taxes. He is against providing additional funding for most social programs. He is against using social security and has voted to stop using SS funds and wants to remove it from the budget altogether. He supports requiring a 3/5 vote in congress to raise taxes, making it harder to raise taxes. The list goes on...he is squarely conservative on these issues.

B) Supreme Court Justice John Stevens will be leaving during the next presidential term. The next president will hire his replacement. Do you want McCains nominee for Supreme Court...or Hillary and Obama's??? That Justice will make rulings for the next 20+ years. I think it is vitally important that we elect the most conservative judges possible.

McCain is not the best republican choice...let alone the most conservative choice. However, he is a far cry better than the alternative. We should be careful that in our efforts to gain the whole world that we don't lose our souls.

Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

[MorningGlory]

Do you honestly think the American people are going to care about the issue of "banning torture" if the debate is framed that way?

I don't think most Americans care about that issue anyway, Butero. The 'torture' meted out by our government is Club Med room service in most of the detainees' countries.

[forrestkc]

I am by NO MEANS excited about John McCain for President...but you are all missing a couple of HUGE points...

A) McCain is conservative on budget matters. He is against raising taxes. He is against providing additional funding for most social programs. He is against using social security and has voted to stop using SS funds and wants to remove it from the budget altogether. He supports requiring a 3/5 vote in congress to raise taxes, making it harder to raise taxes. The list goes on...he is squarely conservative on these issues.

B) Supreme Court Justice John Stevens will be leaving during the next presidential term. The next president will hire his replacement. Do you want McCains nominee for Supreme Court...or Hillary and Obama's??? That Justice will make rulings for the next 20+ years. I think it is vitally important that we elect the most conservative judges possible.

McCain is not the best republican choice...let alone the most conservative choice. However, he is a far cry better than the alternative. We should be careful that in our efforts to gain the whole world that we don't lose our souls.

Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

I agree with you. I am not sure why so many of your fellow conservatives don't see that. It seems as though many conservatives would rather have a tax cut, and watch the government grow like kudzu than actually have a president that reduces the size of government.

[MorningGlory]

I agree with you. I am not sure why so many of your fellow conservatives don't see that. It seems as though many conservatives would rather have a tax cut, and watch the government grow like kudzu than actually have a president that reduces the size of government.

But....but....conservatives are supposed to be all about smaller government! Of course, this sure hasn't happened with the current crop of 'conservatives', has it? I was a Reagan Democrat, then a Clinton Republican, then I actually voted for G.W. Bush! Now, I'm wavering again; I like Huckabee, but don't think he can get the nomination, can't stand McCain, and threatened to vote for Hillary if Romney was the nominee. I'll be willing to bet I'm not the only voter who feels like they're in a blender this year. Democrats I talk to are not really sure which way to go either.

[forrestkc]

I agree with you. I am not sure why so many of your fellow conservatives don't see that. It seems as though many conservatives would rather have a tax cut, and watch the government grow like kudzu than actually have a president that reduces the size of government.

But....but....conservatives are supposed to be all about smaller government! Of course, this sure hasn't happened with the current crop of 'conservatives', has it? I was a Reagan Democrat, then a Clinton Republican, then I actually voted for G.W. Bush! Now, I'm wavering again; I like Huckabee, but don't think he can get the nomination, can't stand McCain, and threatened to vote for Hillary if Romney was the nominee. I'll be willing to bet I'm not the only voter who feels like they're in a blender this year. Democrats I talk to are not really sure which way to go either.

Well most Democrats I know are very excited about both Hillary and Obama. The divide with them is one over leadership style, not ideology or issues. Its quite possible that Obama may end up being the nominee, and if thats the case, I think he certainly will motivate the base. This is evidenced by the fact that Democrats are showing up in numbers 2 to 1 over Republicans to vote in the primaries.

With the Republicans, it seems as thought they are very fractured this time along different ideological factions. Its almost as though there is a battle for the soul of the party, and no one in it is really being realistic.