Job was perfect?

[Fraught]

I always believed perfection was in ones heart resolve and not one performance.

This becomes most evident when one is confronted with error in their life . . . do they just defend themselves or do they receive correction?

and there's the thing with job. he defended himself to the hilt--and told how unfair things were in the process. the correction his friends brought him was coming from the same place job himself was--the obvious. but job's wrong wasn't obvious. his friends assumed it was there because, of course, A follows B: you do wrong and "punishment" follows. job could see no wrong done, so he could not receive any correction of any sort. until God showed up. elihu was the only one who spoke truth. and God never condemned his words. but people tend to brush over this fact when reading job.

i think the lesson from job has less to do with job's "innocense", and has a lot more to do with us trusting God. everybody quotes him "though He slay me, yet will i trust him." nobody quotes him saying "if i sin, what do i do to you, you watcher of mankind? why have you made me your mark? why have i become a burden to you?" (7:20) or "God has cast me into the mire, and i have become like dust and ashes. i cry unto you for help and you do not answer me; i stand, and you only look at me. you have turned cruel to me; with the might of your hand you persecute me. you lift me up on th wind; you make me ride on it, and you toss me about in the roar of the storm. for i know that you will bring me to death, and to the house appointed for all living. (30:19-23).

job wasnt perfect.

that's the part that i find comforting & inspiring. a lot of bad things happened to Job and he had his moments worrying about trusting God. the main thing is that God knew He could trust Job.

we could get a lot of insight from studying why God felt this way and how we are the kind of people that God trusts Himself with.

[AnotherTraveler]

Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

2 Cor 13:11 (KJV)

Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

Phil 3:15 (KJV)

That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Tim 3:17 (KJV)

But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

James 1:4 (KJV)

The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

Luke 6:40 (KJV)

Job was perfect. We also are to be perfect. Piece of cake! :emot-heartbeat: THAT is why we trust in the Lord, who can do for us that which we all need!

[AnotherTraveler]

Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

2 Cor 13:11 (KJV)

Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

Phil 3:15 (KJV)

That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Tim 3:17 (KJV)

But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

James 1:4 (KJV)

The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

Luke 6:40 (KJV)

Job was perfect. We also are to be perfect. Piece of cake! :th_frusty: THAT is why we trust in the Lord, who can do for us that which we all need!

Hebrews 10:14, "For by a single sacrifice, He has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified."

What a wonderful answer!

[yesult]

Haven't read all of the replies so please excuse me if this has already been written - but the bible does say Job was blamelss. Blameless means blameless. When God pointed that out to satan, satan wasn't able to drag up any of jobs sins to refute God, instead he said 'but if you touch his possessions' he'll curse you - he's only upright because you're protecting him. If Job had had some hidden sin there, satan wouldn't have said that. And neither would God.

Does that mean that Job was always perfect? Of course not. He was a human being - not with the holy spirit without measure the way Jesus had it from birth. But he was blameless and upright - a man who shunned sin when God actually brought up that challenge before satan.

Did Job sin in his whole trial? His whole complaint was that God had brought evil on him unfairly. He was angry over what he saw as Gods unfairness but he didn't curse God. God's rebuke to him at the end was ultimatly (from what I can see) - I'm sovereign. I can do what I like, who are you to challenge or question me in that. I am God and you arn't.

lol. Job was faithful throughout his trial in that he didn't turn his back on God. And God restored what he lost, twice over.

So the bible doesn't say that Job never sinned, only that he was blameless at the time of the challenge.

Poor job. Very encouraging to us when we go through trials and we don't understand why. God always has a reason.