Is the florida revival real?

[nebula]

So i think the only test still is in the bible about fruit and what they say about jesus...no devil can say jesus is lord...something like that...? right ?

He is definitely syaing Jesus is Lord, and he is definitely giving glory to Jesus.

[Guest man]

All I can say is that if I didn't feel the presence of God through the ustreaming of the meetings, I would be right with you.

That is something a charlatan could never create.

Matthew 24

24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

Is it not odd that even Jesus was accused of healing by the power of Satan? Those who were spirituall blind 2000 years ago raised the same arguments that the spiritually blind today raise.

Notice what the scripture says..."to deceive, if possible, even the elect."

Nobody said anything about satan casting out satan.

[nebula]

You have much to learn.

I could say the same to you.

Do you know what the presence of God feels like?

I know you don't get those feelings from a training manual.

You didn't answer the question.

Have you yourself ever experienced and felt the presence of God?

I've had things happen in my life that can only be attributed to the workings of God. Have I ever felt His presence?....yeah I guess I have........what does that matter?

It matters a lot. I do not understand why you would take it so lightly.

Psalm 16:11 - You have made known to me the path of life; you will fill me with joy in your presence, with eternal pleasures at your right hand.

Do you not know what this is like? Don't you long for His presence like you long for water on a hot day?

Then explain to me why I would not understand.

Well, let me hear your response to Matthitjah's post and the verses he gave. That would let me know where you stand a bit better.

Why would anyone try to explain color coordination to a blind person to begin with? That's a bad analogy.

Because the school program requires him to pass an art class, perhaps?

[nebula]

There is no spiritual gift of "discernment!" There is the gift of discerning of spirits, but no gift of discernment as the phrase is applied today.

Good point - thanks for the reminder!

[Guest man]

I could say the same to you.

And I wouldn't disagree with you.

It matters a lot. I do not understand why you would take it so lightly.

Do you not know what this is like? Don't you long for His presence like you long for water on a hot day?

This really has nothing to do with what we're discussing.

This guy claims he can sell someone the gift of prophesy.....I say he can't.

What's that got to do with me feeling the presence of God?

That would let me know where you stand a bit better.

You seem to know me and what I'm all about.....what more is there to know?

I'll just let this one go.....if you could have explained, you would have.

Because the school program requires him to pass an art class, perhaps?

Why on earth would a blind person take a painting class?

Sorry....it's still a bad analogy.....but I'll let it go.

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I just decided.....this is really going nowhere and we're just tearing each other down.....not very edifying is it.

This will be my last post to you on this subject.....may your day be blessed.

Peace.

Edited April 28, 2008 by man

[ayin jade]

Why would anyone try to explain color coordination to a blind person to begin with? That's a bad analogy.

Because the school program requires him to pass an art class, perhaps?

As I read this, I thought of a way to explain it to a blind man. If one is creative, one can explain anything to anyone. For those interested, you can explain color and coordination to a blind man using music. Altho he wont grasp the color red fully unless he had sight before being blind, he will understand through the music that it is loud, that it can mix with some colors (sounds) but not with others. Maybe I am able to see this analogy because of synesthesia. But with effort you can explain even the impartation and activation to those who dont get it.

[HeyThere]

This guy claims he can sell someone the gift of prophesy.....I say he can't.

Charging for conferences and doing what he os dong now are two separate things. Why are apples being compared to pranges?

[Guest man]

This guy claims he can sell someone the gift of prophesy.....I say he can't.

Charging for conferences and doing what he os dong now are two separate things. Why are apples being compared to pranges?

I don't know what "pranges" are, but I'll assume they are not apples.

Anyway....the discussion between myself and Nebula is not about what's taking place in Florida.

You might want to go back and read what I have to say about that.

[ayin jade]

Some are claiming this is part of a 4th wave of latter rain theology.

Is that sound? Scriptural support if you think it is sound please.

[HeyThere]

This guy claims he can sell someone the gift of prophesy.....I say he can't.

Charging for conferences and doing what he os dong now are two separate things. Why are apples being compared to pranges?

I don't know what "pranges" are, but I'll assume they are not apples.

Anyway....the discussion between myself and Nebula is not about what's taking place in Florida.

You might want to go back and read what I have to say about that.

I meant ORANGES!

Then why is it in the FLORIDA REVIVAL thread? (just a ?)