Lambs book of life

[Floatingaxe]

He has a blot capability, obviously.

no, it is not obvious at all.

When he says "I will never leave you nor forsake you" dose that mean he has a forsake me option?

Nope. He knows what our fears are in that instance.

[Floatingaxe]

He has a blot capability, obviously.

no, it is not obvious at all.

When he says "I will never leave you nor forsake you" dose that mean he has a forsake me option?

Nope. He knows what our fears are in that instance.

then I fail to see why one is so obvious and the other is not.

I see both of them as the same sort of promise.

They indeed could be. However the "blot" promise carries with it an onus for us. Are we willing to follow jesus completely? There is a dire warning there. Do not become COMPLACENT!

[Larry 2]

Could it be that those who "choose" to walk away or un-choose Jesus never had him in the first place. Perhaps their name was never written in the Lamb's Book of Life? Couldn't it be that if one chooses Christ with all their heart, soul and mind, one who gives up his life for Christ, cannot walk away from Him?

Why wouild Jesus have the option to "blot out", then? He doesn't talk about things He cannot do.

Philippians 4:3 "my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life."

Question - How did they get in the book of life?

Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Question - How do we overcome to get there? A hint is the white raiment.

I will not blot out his name out of the book of life is God's word and He cannot lie.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Question - Is these not written in the book of life saved or lost and why?

Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Question - Are any of these able to change their minds and choose differently?

In Jesus' name -

[Massorite]

In the bible it says your name is sealed in the lambs book of life. Does that mean that your name was there before u were saved, but when u get saved it is sealed in there or what. I am a strong believer i am just curious about this topic. I also think others are interested in it as well. Please quote some scripture and prove it for me. Thank you and God Bless!

Here are a couple of facts.

There is not one single scripture where the word of God tells us when we get our names written into the Lambs book of life.

The word of God never speaks about our names being written in the book but the word of God does speak of our names could be blotted out of the book.

Having our names written into the Lambs book of life when we get saved is also not written in the word of God.

Moses not only knew there was a book of life, he also knew his name was written into the book and he did not have the salvation or grace available to him that we have through Jesus.

The word of God says the He knew us before we were in our mothers womb. Which means He knew who we were going to be before we were born.

Our names are written in the Lambs book of life before we are born because God had hope for us from the beginning and it is because of our choices to disobey Christ that our name gets blotted out of the book.

[Larry 2]

In the bible it says your name is sealed in the lambs book of life. Does that mean that your name was there before u were saved, but when u get saved it is sealed in there or what. I am a strong believer i am just curious about this topic. I also think others are interested in it as well. Please quote some scripture and prove it for me. Thank you and God Bless!

Here are a couple of facts.

There is not one single scripture where the word of God tells us when we get our names written into the Lambs book of life.

The word of God never speaks about our names being written in the book but the word of God does speak of our names could be blotted out of the book.

Having our names written into the Lambs book of life when we get saved is also not written in the word of God.

Moses not only knew there was a book of life, he also knew his name was written into the book and he did not have the salvation or grace available to him that we have through Jesus.

The word of God says the He knew us before we were in our mothers womb. Which means He knew who we were going to be before we were born.

Our names are written in the Lambs book of life before we are born because God had hope for us from the beginning and it is because of our choices to disobey Christ that our name gets blotted out of the book.

Quoting Massorite - There is not one single scripture where the word of God tells us when we get our names written into the Lambs book of life.

Response - Revelation 17:8. "..they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world .."

Evidently names are written or not written from the foundation of the world.

Quoting Massorite - Having our names written into the Lambs book of life when we get saved is also not written in the word of God.

Response - Philippians 4:3. And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.

How would Paul have known that Clement's as well as the women which labored with him were in the book of life? He wasn't privileged to the names written there. Was it not because they were saved?

Quoting Massorite - Moses not only knew there was a book of life, he also knew his name was written into the book and he did not have the salvation or grace available to him that we have through Jesus.

Response - Salvation has always been by grace through faith. What did Abraham do to become righteous? He believed God, and not by works. How were Adam and Eve saved? God covered their nakedness. Abel was covered by the blood.

Quoting Massorite - it is because of our choices to disobey Christ that our name gets blotted out of the book

Response - Moses failed by not believing God and was not allowed into the promised land, but he didn't get blotted and was there at the mount of transfiguration. God's promise was that He would not blot our names out, not that He might or would do so; there was no condition applied with it.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. I don't see where they can be unsealed.

[kross]

Both of those posts I disagree with 100%

Just so you know that there are both sides to this issue.

OK, while I was typing a post was added that would have made the above post more confusing.

We are choosen before creation by GOD for HIS purpose in accordance with HIS will and once you are in HIS hand HE will in no-wise let you go. HE will always do what is best for you if you like it or not and that includes keeping you saved and sealed until the day of redemption.

Unless you turn away from your salvation. He is not about to override our will.

It will always amaze me that you think GOD does not care enough about you to keep you saved.

We have a responsibility to obey God. That is what proves our heart condition before Him. He looks on the heart eben though we can fool men. He tells us that we will not enter the Kingdom of heaven if we are not obedient. His words, not mine.

It always amazes me that you think that a person that doesn't care about God enough to remain Jesus' disciple expects to be found worthy of heaven.

I do not think any of us are worthy of HEaven. That is why I trust GOD to save me and keep me.

[kross]

And once again it continues. No matter what we are showed in the scriptures, we will reject what we have not decided is true.

That is why I answerred with my first answer. There are two sides to the issue and people will argue it until JESUS comes and takes those who are trusting in HIM away.

[kross]

In the bible it says your name is sealed in the lambs book of life. Does that mean that your name was there before u were saved, but when u get saved it is sealed in there or what. I am a strong believer i am just curious about this topic. I also think others are interested in it as well. Please quote some scripture and prove it for me. Thank you and God Bless!

Here are a couple of facts.

There is not one single scripture where the word of God tells us when we get our names written into the Lambs book of life.

The word of God never speaks about our names being written in the book but the word of God does speak of our names could be blotted out of the book.

Having our names written into the Lambs book of life when we get saved is also not written in the word of God.

Moses not only knew there was a book of life, he also knew his name was written into the book and he did not have the salvation or grace available to him that we have through Jesus.

The word of God says the He knew us before we were in our mothers womb. Which means He knew who we were going to be before we were born.

Our names are written in the Lambs book of life before we are born because God had hope for us from the beginning and it is because of our choices to disobey Christ that our name gets blotted out of the book.

Quoting Massorite - There is not one single scripture where the word of God tells us when we get our names written into the Lambs book of life.

Response - Revelation 17:8. "..they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world .."

Evidently names are written or not written from the foundation of the world.

Quoting Massorite - Having our names written into the Lambs book of life when we get saved is also not written in the word of God.

Response - Philippians 4:3. And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.

How would Paul have known that Clement's as well as the women which labored with him were in the book of life? He wasn't privileged to the names written there. Was it not because they were saved?

Quoting Massorite - Moses not only knew there was a book of life, he also knew his name was written into the book and he did not have the salvation or grace available to him that we have through Jesus.

Response - Salvation has always been by grace through faith. What did Abraham do to become righteous? He believed God, and not by works. How were Adam and Eve saved? God covered their nakedness. Abel was covered by the blood.

Quoting Massorite - it is because of our choices to disobey Christ that our name gets blotted out of the book

Response - Moses failed by not believing God and was not allowed into the promised land, but he didn't get blotted and was there at the mount of transfiguration. God's promise was that He would not blot our names out, not that He might or would do so; there was no condition applied with it.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. I don't see where they can be unsealed.

With the dozens of scriptures that say we are sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption, with all the places that the scriptures tell us that when we are in GOD's hand there is no power that can take us out, with all the scriptures that refer to "The Elect", "The Called", "The Chosen", still, there will be those who will cling to a mis-understanding of a couple of scriptures to claim it is not so...

Man's desire to be on the throne and be the master of his own destiny.

[Floatingaxe]

Both of those posts I disagree with 100%

Just so you know that there are both sides to this issue.

OK, while I was typing a post was added that would have made the above post more confusing.

We are choosen before creation by GOD for HIS purpose in accordance with HIS will and once you are in HIS hand HE will in no-wise let you go. HE will always do what is best for you if you like it or not and that includes keeping you saved and sealed until the day of redemption.

Unless you turn away from your salvation. He is not about to override our will.

It will always amaze me that you think GOD does not care enough about you to keep you saved.

We have a responsibility to obey God. That is what proves our heart condition before Him. He looks on the heart eben though we can fool men. He tells us that we will not enter the Kingdom of heaven if we are not obedient. His words, not mine.

It always amazes me that you think that a person that doesn't care about God enough to remain Jesus' disciple expects to be found worthy of heaven.

I do not think any of us are worthy of HEaven. That is why I trust GOD to save me and keep me.

God's Word is trustworthy. He makes me worthy by His blood. To say we are not worthy to be called His sons and daughters, thereby worthy of heaven, one is guilty of unbelief. We should be counting on it!!