Healing

[Matthitjah]

We already have our healing. we need to receive it.

Bless you FA.

[refugepsa91]

split from "joining a church"......

[refugepsa91]

Please stick with your assertion. No one stated that it was Gods Good and Perfect will that Paul be sick. Yet you seem to feel that if someone is not healed of an infirmity that they lack the Faith needed for their healing

Exactely! Coming out of a WOF church, this is what they teach I don't care how they spin it, in the end its what they preach.

[Guest shiloh357]

I don't think anyone is making the assertion that God WANTS people to be sick or that sickness is a condition that God desires for any particular individual. However, it is something God is willing to use in a broken world.

The Bible never promises that each believer can walk in total health all of the time, and it certainly does not teach that God will heal EVERY Christian who prays for it.

The problem is that some churches teach that healing is part of the atonement. Thus if salvation is available to everyone because of Christ's death on the cross, then healing is too. They teach wrongly that sickeness, disease and poverty are the curse of the law. So, in their reasoning, if Jesus has redeemed us from the curse of the law, He has redeemed us from sickness, disease and poverty.

The curse of the law is spiritual death/separation from God resulting from sin.. That is what Christ redeemed us from. Poverty, sickness and disease are product of the curse of the Fall, way back in Eden, and we have NOT been redeemed from that curse.

Many of the healing teachers draw on Deut. 28 to bolster their assertion that healing is promised and the do this by taking a promise made to a nation called Israel and force it to apply to individuals. God told Israel that if they obeyed the Torah, kept the Sabbath, the Passover, the Kosher Laws, and so forth, if they did EVERYTHING written in the law, they would be blessed above all nations, they would be blessed going in and going out, they would be the head and not the tail, etc.

God was making a promise with respct to the general condition of the nation. He was not promising that there would be no sick or poor in their midst. In fact, when one reads the laws given, God makes provisions for the sick, infirmed and those who impoverished, which would be self-defeating if God was making promises that they would never get sick or be poor in the first place.

[OneLight]

We already have our healing. we need to receive it. God is no respecter of persons.

Can I ask then, how does one receive their healing? What steps does one have to take?

[ColleenLovesMischief]

I may not know your circumstances, dear, but I know that it is for us to walk in the strength of God and in the health He desires for us in order to do His will...and just plain because He's our Daddy and He loves us so much. No offense intended in that, also! Your equipped born-again spirit already has all you need, and all you need do is release it to the situation. All things in Christ Jesus already exist. Acknowledging what God has already done begins to manifest victory. We are all in the process of renewing our minds to grasp these things.

Philemon 1:6

And I am praying that you will put into action the generosity that comes from your faith as you understand and experience all the good things we have in Christ.

so you are saying that she has this condition only because she lacks the faith to be healed?

For some true complete healing is only achieved in death. Something I realized many years ago.

[ColleenLovesMischief]

We already have our healing. we need to receive it. God is no respecter of persons.

All God tells us is we will be healed...He makes no mention of when.

[refugepsa91]

In the WOF church I was in, to recieve healing you had to proclaim you were already healed. Proclaim it often and to anyone who would listen.

A member I thought I was healed died several weeks after proclaiming his healing to everyone who would listen. Makes me wonder, the poor guy was telling a lie, telling a lie that the church taught him to perpetrate too receive his healing. Saying its so doesn't make it true....

For some true complete healing is only achieved in death. Something I realized many years ago.

I don't think anyone is making the assertion that God WANTS people to be sick or that sickness is a condition that God desires for any particular individual. However, it is something God is willing to use in a broken world

Exactely!

[truthbringer]

Healing and deliverance is available!

Sweetie when you have lived through what I have experienced in these short 31 years of life, and the healing and deliverence that have been asked for then come talk to me. I love ya dear, but I think you have very little idea where I am coming from. Noi offense intended!!!

you can talk to me about healing, and I'll get you healed every time. [if you will believe the word of God]

[ColleenLovesMischief]

Healing and deliverance is available!

Sweetie when you have lived through what I have experienced in these short 31 years of life, and the healing and deliverence that have been asked for then come talk to me. I love ya dear, but I think you have very little idea where I am coming from. Noi offense intended!!!

you can talk to me about healing, and I'll get you healed every time. [if you will believe the word of God]

Now why does it seem that my faith is being brought into question here. I do believe in every word God says thank you. I also believe sometimes he tells us to wait. If it is not your time then I believe you can beg all you want, but if He says wait then guess what.....you're gonna wait. Don't think I don't mention it to Him a few times daily. When told to wait I shut up and keep moving. I know that I cannot force the hand of God....nor will I try.