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What it means is my knowledge and trust in God and Jesus is unique, not decided by the

churches, but neither entirely seperate from them. If you only see your own version of belief as the only valid one, then no, I'm not your type of christian.

btw: Ovedya

You should not decide you can command people....I answer as I choose.

I didn't ask you this question of religion or what might be perceived as an exclusive definition. I asked you quite simply in terms of Biblical language: Do you confess (confession is your identification of faith first before God - Rom. 10:9-10; then before man - Matt. 10:32) the Lord Jesus (Jesus is the Lord: Acts 2:36) as your personal (That is, not impartial or connected with some group confession you may have participated in; or in the context of some church confession) Lord and Savior (Jesus is the Savior, the prophesied Messiah - Luke 2:11)?

I really don't care if your my "type of Christian," I only want to see your solid profession of faith in the Lord.

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It's my position, the scriptures do not dictate what faith will be, merely faciliate that a faith

in God and Jesus would be. The fact there be an enourmous variety of segregated faiths

in christianity is to prove the scriptures mean differing things to differing people.

Your particular version of faith dictates a degree of submission I see as inhuman and severe.

Your faith asserts only by that submission can one escape eternal damnation, whereas I

reason ones choice must be free. Also, in particular, I believe righteousness is an integral part

of what sincere belief in Jesus means. Your faith does not.


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It's my position, the scriptures do not dictate what faith will be, merely faciliate that a faith

in God and Jesus would be. The fact there be an enourmous variety of segregated faiths

in christianity is to prove the scriptures mean differing things to differing people.

Your particular version of faith dictates a degree of submission I see as inhuman and severe.

Your faith asserts only by that submission can one escape eternal damnation, whereas I

reason ones choice must be free. Also, in particular, I believe righteousness is an integral part

of what sincere belief in Jesus means. Your faith does not.

Thanks. That answers my question.

Enjoy the Outer Court. :sad030:


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Yep, it's a belief in the opposite extreme. There is neither empyrical evidence to prove God or prove no God. It's just as much of a religion as Christianity, and oftentimes a lot more obnoxious! These atheists force their 'truth' onto anyone- THERE IS NO GOD, YOU IGNORANT FOOL! REPENT, AND BELIEVE IN NOTHING!

Notice that atheists almost always look angry. But...I suppose I'd be angry too if I had nothing. :cool:

That's a false, and incredibly ignorant statement. I've been told I usually always look happy, and who are you to imply *I* have nothing.

Maybe they look angry because of the way YOU approach them?

Saying we almost always look angry...During school when we were learning about WWII in my history class, we watched this film (I can't for the life of me remember what

it was since this was a few years back), but propaganda against the Japanese in America was basically along the same lines of what you just said.

It was on how to tell a Chinese person from a Japanese person. According to the film, Americans were told that the Chinese were more friendly and smiled more often, where

the Japanese would have an angry expression and cruel attitudes.

So, you're saying that Christians usually always look happy, but atheists usually look angry?

No matter what you may think of atheists, it doesn't matter what you are. Christian, Hindu, Pagan, Atheist, whatever have you, everyone has good days and bad days. There

are Christians who are angry most of the time, Just as there are atheists who are probably angry all the time. To say one group is happier than the other is ridiculous. :sad030:


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It's my position, the scriptures do not dictate what faith will be, merely faciliate that a faith

in God and Jesus would be. The fact there be an enourmous variety of segregated faiths

in christianity is to prove the scriptures mean differing things to differing people.

Your particular version of faith dictates a degree of submission I see as inhuman and severe.

Your faith asserts only by that submission can one escape eternal damnation, whereas I

reason ones choice must be free. Also, in particular, I believe righteousness is an integral part

of what sincere belief in Jesus means. Your faith does not.

Thanks. That answers my question.

Enjoy the Outer Court. :cool:

It's where all the cool kids kick it. :sad030:


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According to the Oxford Dictionary, atheism is defined as:

atheism |ˈāθēˌizəm|

noun

the theory or belief that God does not exist.

Let's look at the word 'theory' a little closer. As described by Oxford...

theory |ˈθēərē; ˈθi(ə)rē|

noun ( pl. -ries)

a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained : Darwin's theory of evolution.

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.... The sin of Adam and Eve is the sin of God, and death is the consequence of sin....

Sinners

Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone.

But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust.

Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.

James 1:13-15 (NASB)

Don't Know God

Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.

Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shifting shadow.

James 1:16-17

Yet They Die Hating Him

"But he who sins against me injures himself; All those who hate me love death."

Proverbs 8:36

Unless They Call Upon His Holy Name

"And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the LORD Will be delivered; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem There will be those who escape, As the LORD has said, Even among the survivors whom the LORD calls.

Joel 2:32

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.... Our embrace of the crucifiction is our acceptance of God's apology....

Oh My!

cruci fiction?

But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

Jude 1:17-19

>>>>>()<<<<<

Mock Mock

Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

Psalms 2:1-3 (KJV)

Sad One, God Knows Your Heart

He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Psalms 2:4-5

And HE Will Return You See

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

Psalms 2:6-8

To Treat Sinner's Contempt

Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Psalms 2:9

Unless You Turn To Him

Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Psalms 2:10-12

If You Still Can

Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says,


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OneLight:

You would most likely not understand my answer, but I'll offer some of it.

From a rather large volume of insights and many years of reasoning, it occurs to me

Jesus would be God incarnate, given to the crucifiction as by that God's admits to and

atones for the sinful character humankind is and which it is responsible for to be. The sin

of Adam and Eve is the sin of God, and death is the consequence of sin.

Our embrace of the crucifiction is our acceptance of God's apology, and in kind our

admission of shame and regret of our sins against one another. In this, God and

humankind are reconciled, though that is not fully realized until all humankind are

reconciled and compensated, which can only occur when creation is ended.

God does NOT sin, Student, nor was the Messiah sacrificed in order for God to apologize for something. He was crucified to save you...and me...and everyone else. These are irrefutable facts. Please read Scripture to get a better idea of what you're writing about. It is very apparent that you either haven't done so or you are reading something other than the Bible.


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atheism-if you break it down into two parts, a means against and theism means God, so atheism is something that is against God.
That's rewriting the intent of the definition to suit what you believe about atheism. I have never seen a dictionary definition of atheism that states atheists are against God.

A=against

Theism=The philosophy of God's existence.

So technically one could argue that atheism is, in fact, a belief system that is against God.


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Atheism... I cannot imagine the utter grief of emptiness and believing that one only has oneself to rely upon and answer to... that after this... "life" - that there is no other. That to have no faith in a higher being or to be loved unconditionally by a loving Father in Heaven is all there is to your life. I cannot imagine such total loss. It truly makes me sad. :39:

I do not recall who said this, but it is rather thought-provoking:

... I would rather live a life that is pleasing and obedient to God and when I die only to find out that there is no God - than to live like there is no God and to die and find out that He does, indeed exist...

I pray for all those who are so lost. Praise God that I have Salvation through His Son, Jesus.

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