Obey God or Mammon

[backontrack]

Hey everyone,

I feel like I've posted this before, but it's hard to find a definite answer on this one.

We are to obey God rather than man, but we are to obey our parents, as in the Bible.

The Apostles often had to go against the gov't and preach- Obey God rather than man.

Christ did not obey the religious leaders either, I woudl assume. However, Christ submitted to his parents (Luke 2_49-51)

If a parent tells a child to steal, should they steal or not steal? (When I say child, I'm speaking of say a teenager, not a 4yrs old who might not know better)

I'm sure we'd all agree if the gov't says we can't go to church, we can't read our bibles, or can't pray, we'd surely do it anyway, following God's word. However,

If a parent tells a child to not go to church, should they stay home?

If a parent tells a child not to read their bible, should they not?

If a parent tells a child not to pray, should they not?

Anyone have Bible to really back up a solid answer?

In order to do some of the things above you must be born again. Sin is quickened to us and therefore becomes Sin and we know it if we are Born Again! Get the Parents Saved and then the kids can see the change in there Life and most times follow suit. Raise a child in the way of the Lord and he will never depart from it, he may stray but will return in time. If a parent says to a child to steal then its obvious that parent is not right with God. Get the parent right and it comes together.

The bible says children obey your parents and it also goes on to say spare the rod or spoil the child. Could this be one reason why our schools and society is in shambles. Yes there are other reasons but from a spiritual stand point it is impossible to live in right standing with God without Jesus!

Hey backon track,

It's been a while Thank you for your post

Just to clarify a particular situation a little more clearly...

Parents are saved, but the child(ren) is not. The parents are cold to the gospel, and the meantime (may or may never get saved), are telling the child(ren) he/she can not go to church.

Unfortunately there is no correct answer to that question because they all live in the world and the world dictates the response of the parents, even if they are cold. The holy spirit is the only key and prayer if one knows these particular people. The question is hypothetical in nature and I must base all my answers on the bible. If the parents aren

[kittylover0991]

It is my parents... but then I will be kickedout of the house and they will no longer pay for my college....

[Hunterpoet]

I think the first commandment would cover it.

We are to obey G-d first.

A parent telling a child to steal is very rare I should think, or at least hope. Possibly the hteft would bring to light what the parents are doing and even in our permissive society, the powers to be would not tolerate this, thus relieveing the child from the parents.

[kittylover0991]

I think the first commandment would cover it.

We are to obey G-d first.

A parent telling a child to steal is very rare I should think, or at least hope. Possibly the hteft would bring to light what the parents are doing and even in our permissive society, the powers to be would not tolerate this, thus relieveing the child from the parents.

Thank you. I was using hte stealing as an example. People says that if a parent tells a child to steal, the child shoudln' tdo it. but then when the subject of not going to church comes up, the child is told to obey the parents and I think thats hypocritical. Just ebcuase it's not in the ten commandments does not mean it's not God's will...

[Guest shiloh357]

It is my parents... but then I will be kickedout of the house and they will no longer pay for my college....

That may be a price you have to pay. Jesus said:

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. (Luke 14:26)

There comes a point when you have serve God even at the expense of parents who choose to stand in the way of you serving the Lord. You are expected to obey them in all areas where it is reasonable, but when they begin to try to stop you from serving God or try to hinder your walk with God, that is where you have to be willing to be put God first.

This is not an excuse to be rebellious, and it is in their best interest because when you serve God in spite of their attempts to hinder you, you are being a light to them.

[stacey c]

I would have to agree with Shilo, your a light to your parents and they maybe fighting the conviction of the Holy Spirit from your fruit, satan can be using this as a tool to put your light out. Or God maybe using this situation to test your faith and commitment to Him first. Either way you never walk on water unless your first step out of the boat.

[kittylover0991]

So that truly is what is right according to God's word?? .... (scared)

[kross]

I would say that the child should obey it's parents. But, the child should continually mention JESUS and give HIM thanks for everything. If the child explains very clearly that JESUS wants him to honor them and therefore he is willling to do as his parents say, it will go a long way to influencing them. There are many ways for a young person to fellowship with believers without going to "church".

Insisting on a religious ritual and using that to create a rift between parents and child would be the exact opposit of what JESUS is all about.

The child should try to get someone to visit him (really his parents) regularly to share the gospel with his parents, an adult.

All of these actions will likely make the difference.

If JESUS is responsible for the child being disobedient and rebelling, than his parents will have no reason to change their minds. If JESUS is responsible for the child being obedient and peacable, then the parents ae far more likely to respond to that in a favorable way.

That's what I think anyway.

This is an edit;

I did not know this was an adult child. Now the real understanding of the title. Mammon being money.

IF you chose not to do what GOD is leading you to do so you can get money (ie a place to sleep or collage) than you need to trust in HIM and HIS provision. in the end, you will be a better witness by showing them how GOD provided.

And no, I do not feel like going on a scripture hunt.

[stacey c]

So that truly is what is right according to God's word?? .... (scared)

I know stepping out in faith can be scary, but you have the perfect scripture posted on the bottom of your post Isaiah 41:10.

I'll be praying for you and for strength to do what is right

[kross]

It is my parents... but then I will be kickedout of the house and they will no longer pay for my college....

That may be a price you have to pay. Jesus said:

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. (Luke 14:26)

There comes a point when you have serve God even at the expense of parents who choose to stand in the way of you serving the Lord. You are expected to obey them in all areas where it is reasonable, but when they begin to try to stop you from serving God or try to hinder your walk with God, that is where you have to be willing to be put God first.

This is not an excuse to be rebellious, and it is in their best interest because when you serve God in spite of their attempts to hinder you, you are being a light to them.