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I already know that I will most likely get slammed for this, but it is in G-d's Word and it is validated by the Commandments that Yeshua gave to all of mankind. Yes, there is only one way to get into G-d's lap as the saying goes; however, many folks in the church do not understand the Noahide Laws and what they represent today and what Yeshua and all his Talmidim (disciples) would agree with.

Mr. Beck is a beleiver unlike that so called christian minister that happens to be Anti Israel and Anti the Jewish people. The same one that hosted Obama and McCain. The same one that prayed for Obama. If this world would be obedient to the Noahide Moral Laws this world would be a much better place to live. No one can be a true follower of Rabbi Yeshua and not support Israel. No nation of Israel - then our Messiah cannot come.

The Noahide Laws are the moral laws that are required of all beleivers according to the book of Acts. They have been categorized as 4, 7, and 303. Rabbi Yaakov (James) stated them as 4, some categorize them as 7, and the complete is 303.

Mr. Beck is correct, but so is the person that started this thread. ALL Israel will be saved. The problem is with how the christians attempt to evangelize the Jewish people.

The way to Evangelize the Jewish people is to stand side by side with them, toe to toe, and show them Love. Be willing to shut your mouth and preach with your actions. This does not mean you cannot share your beleifs once you have been granted the authority to do so. Otherwise, the result is disastrous. You close down any possible door to evangelize to do it any other way.

How would all Israel be saved except through salvation and Jesus Christ? I am no scholar when it comes to the different types of Jews but I would assume since the new testament clearly states that to be saved is through believing in Christ and that He saved you

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I already know that I will most likely get slammed for this, but it is in G-d's Word and it is validated by the Commandments that Yeshua gave to all of mankind. Yes, there is only one way to get into G-d's lap as the saying goes; however, many folks in the church do not understand the Noahide Laws and what they represent today and what Yeshua and all his Talmidim (disciples) would agree with.

Mr. Beck is a beleiver unlike that so called christian minister that happens to be Anti Israel and Anti the Jewish people. The same one that hosted Obama and McCain. The same one that prayed for Obama. If this world would be obedient to the Noahide Moral Laws this world would be a much better place to live. No one can be a true follower of Rabbi Yeshua and not support Israel. No nation of Israel - then our Messiah cannot come.

The Noahide Laws are the moral laws that are required of all beleivers according to the book of Acts. They have been categorized as 4, 7, and 303. Rabbi Yaakov (James) stated them as 4, some categorize them as 7, and the complete is 303.

Mr. Beck is correct, but so is the person that started this thread. ALL Israel will be saved. The problem is with how the christians attempt to evangelize the Jewish people.

The way to Evangelize the Jewish people is to stand side by side with them, toe to toe, and show them Love. Be willing to shut your mouth and preach with your actions. This does not mean you cannot share your beleifs once you have been granted the authority to do so. Otherwise, the result is disastrous. You close down any possible door to evangelize to do it any other way.

How would all Israel be saved except through salvation and Jesus Christ? I am no scholar when it comes to the different types of Jews but I would assume since the new testament clearly states that to be saved is through believing in Christ and that He saved you

1) The Jewish people is a closed society. They do not want to hear about the Roman god called Jesus. Frankly, they do not want to hear about the historical Rabbi called Yeshua either.

2) How does one have the authority to speak to someone who refuses to listen to you much less unwilling to hear you speak?

3) We are not talking pride here in todays world. We are talking centuries of persecution and forced conversions from chirstians and messianic Jews. We are also dealing with Halakhah or Jewish Law as well that is still in force according to G-d's Word because G-d Himself gave it as a command to the Jewish people to be obedient to and no authority has taken that away, not even Rabbi Yeshua.

4) So how do you suppose to complete the Great Commission if you are dealing with a people who have been persecuted, unwilling to even socialize with a christian for fear of a conversion meeting instead of just simply having a cup of coffee, they have been raped, murdered, had their livelyhoods taken from them, beeen beaten, everything stolen from them, falsely accused of incest, been full of idolatry, children of the devil, etc...

So please my brother... please tell me how you think you can fulfill the Great Commission to a group of people that your ancestors have done this to them? This is your present. This is not living in the past. How do you overcome this? You cannot even get in the batters box with the Jewish people.

The scripture states very clearly that ALL Israel shall be saved in the Olam Haba or End of Days which we are living now. There are many Jewish people and Rabbis that secretly beleive that Yeshua is the Long Awaited Messiah, but if they open their mouths...they loose their livelyhoods, their position of ministry. It is not time for them to speak out.....YET. That time is coming, but not opening your mouth is not the same as denying who Yeshua is.

When will teh descendants of the 70 Nations at Mt. Sinai stand shoulder to shoulder with the Nation of Israel and therefor, the G-d of Israel?


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I already know that I will most likely get slammed for this, but it is in G-d's Word and it is validated by the Commandments that Yeshua gave to all of mankind. Yes, there is only one way to get into G-d's lap as the saying goes; however, many folks in the church do not understand the Noahide Laws and what they represent today and what Yeshua and all his Talmidim (disciples) would agree with.

Mr. Beck is a beleiver unlike that so called christian minister that happens to be Anti Israel and Anti the Jewish people. The same one that hosted Obama and McCain. The same one that prayed for Obama. If this world would be obedient to the Noahide Moral Laws this world would be a much better place to live. No one can be a true follower of Rabbi Yeshua and not support Israel. No nation of Israel - then our Messiah cannot come.

The Noahide Laws are the moral laws that are required of all beleivers according to the book of Acts. They have been categorized as 4, 7, and 303. Rabbi Yaakov (James) stated them as 4, some categorize them as 7, and the complete is 303.

Mr. Beck is correct, but so is the person that started this thread. ALL Israel will be saved. The problem is with how the christians attempt to evangelize the Jewish people.

The way to Evangelize the Jewish people is to stand side by side with them, toe to toe, and show them Love. Be willing to shut your mouth and preach with your actions. This does not mean you cannot share your beleifs once you have been granted the authority to do so. Otherwise, the result is disastrous. You close down any possible door to evangelize to do it any other way.

Glenn Beck may believe in God...but he is not a Christian. Why do you say Rick Warren is anti-Israel? :hmmm:


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This past Monday Glenn Beck came back on tv. I like Beck a lot but he made a comment that 89% of America believes in God and asked why we let the 'fringe' try and dictate to us on so many levels. This has really struck me as odd and even though I haven't taken the time to find out I have to wonder how many of that 89% actually are believers in God and His Son. How many of that percentage believe in the many paths to God, who are muslims, etc. Then I run into this article: http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0114/p02s02-usgn.html

I don't know about any of you but I cannot agree with Beck on this, even if all that 89% does believe in 'God' it cannot be in the one God if many are running around spouting many paths, denying Christ and all that stuff. Just venting I suppose!

You know what's interesting too. Catholics call themselves Christians which can cause confusion when someone says that he's a Christian.

Probably a better question would be how many are born again through the blood of Yeshua Jesus and on fire for Him???!!!!

Maybe born again Christians should call themselves "believers" instead. The name "Christian" doesn't have the best reputation either.


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I already know that I will most likely get slammed for this, but it is in G-d's Word and it is validated by the Commandments that Yeshua gave to all of mankind. Yes, there is only one way to get into G-d's lap as the saying goes; however, many folks in the church do not understand the Noahide Laws and what they represent today and what Yeshua and all his Talmidim (disciples) would agree with.

Mr. Beck is a beleiver unlike that so called christian minister that happens to be Anti Israel and Anti the Jewish people. The same one that hosted Obama and McCain. The same one that prayed for Obama. If this world would be obedient to the Noahide Moral Laws this world would be a much better place to live. No one can be a true follower of Rabbi Yeshua and not support Israel. No nation of Israel - then our Messiah cannot come.

The Noahide Laws are the moral laws that are required of all beleivers according to the book of Acts. They have been categorized as 4, 7, and 303. Rabbi Yaakov (James) stated them as 4, some categorize them as 7, and the complete is 303.

Mr. Beck is correct, but so is the person that started this thread. ALL Israel will be saved. The problem is with how the christians attempt to evangelize the Jewish people.

The way to Evangelize the Jewish people is to stand side by side with them, toe to toe, and show them Love. Be willing to shut your mouth and preach with your actions. This does not mean you cannot share your beleifs once you have been granted the authority to do so. Otherwise, the result is disastrous. You close down any possible door to evangelize to do it any other way.

Grace to you,

Yacov,

Be careful, Mr. Beck is a Mormon. I like him, but I have repeatedly heard him on his radio show preach Mormon Doctrine. I also read his book, "The Christmas Sweater," in it he very clearly espouses Mormon Doctrine. :hmmm: It's very subtle but it's there.

Peace,

Dave


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Grace to you,

So please my brother... please tell me how you think you can fulfill the Great Commission to a group of people that your ancestors have done this to them? This is your present. This is not living in the past. How do you overcome this? You cannot even get in the batters box with the Jewish people.

Actually, I've found most Jews here in America to be more secular than Gentiles are. I find that I know more about their history that they often do.

I believe we treat them like everyone else and tell them about their Wonderful, Beautiful, Outrageously Gracious Savior. I tell them that their God is my God and that anything good in my life has come from the God of the Jews. :hmmm:

Peace,

Dave

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I already know that I will most likely get slammed for this, but it is in G-d's Word and it is validated by the Commandments that Yeshua gave to all of mankind. Yes, there is only one way to get into G-d's lap as the saying goes; however, many folks in the church do not understand the Noahide Laws and what they represent today and what Yeshua and all his Talmidim (disciples) would agree with.

Mr. Beck is a beleiver unlike that so called christian minister that happens to be Anti Israel and Anti the Jewish people. The same one that hosted Obama and McCain. The same one that prayed for Obama. If this world would be obedient to the Noahide Moral Laws this world would be a much better place to live. No one can be a true follower of Rabbi Yeshua and not support Israel. No nation of Israel - then our Messiah cannot come.

The Noahide Laws are the moral laws that are required of all beleivers according to the book of Acts. They have been categorized as 4, 7, and 303. Rabbi Yaakov (James) stated them as 4, some categorize them as 7, and the complete is 303.

Mr. Beck is correct, but so is the person that started this thread. ALL Israel will be saved. The problem is with how the christians attempt to evangelize the Jewish people.

The way to Evangelize the Jewish people is to stand side by side with them, toe to toe, and show them Love. Be willing to shut your mouth and preach with your actions. This does not mean you cannot share your beleifs once you have been granted the authority to do so. Otherwise, the result is disastrous. You close down any possible door to evangelize to do it any other way.

Glenn Beck may believe in God...but he is not a Christian. Why do you say Rick Warren is anti-Israel? :hmmm:

If he is not a christian, then what is he?

The last time I checked (and it has been a while now) he was affiliated with the National Council of Churches - a group very well known among the Jewish Community and Messianic Gentiles for their flaming Anti-Semitism.


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This past Monday Glenn Beck came back on tv. I like Beck a lot but he made a comment that 89% of America believes in God and asked why we let the 'fringe' try and dictate to us on so many levels. This has really struck me as odd and even though I haven't taken the time to find out I have to wonder how many of that 89% actually are believers in God and His Son. How many of that percentage believe in the many paths to God, who are muslims, etc. Then I run into this article: http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0114/p02s02-usgn.html

I don't know about any of you but I cannot agree with Beck on this, even if all that 89% does believe in 'God' it cannot be in the one God if many are running around spouting many paths, denying Christ and all that stuff. Just venting I suppose!

You are so right.


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I also read his book, "The Christmas Sweater," in it he very clearly espouses Mormon Doctrine. It's very subtle but it's there.

I think Beck is pretty right on in regards to the economy and ya have to hand it to him for sticking his faith out for all to see. He readily admits to being mormon and I think he brought a more human side to tv media. I didn't read his book but wondered if it had some mormon undertones in it, thanks for reviewing that for me and saving me some money! :hmmm:

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Shalom Dave,

If you have the authority from the secular Jewish person, you can talk to them anmd do freindship evangelsim. I Agree. However, that is not the case in most instances. Most of the time they will get up and leave your presence if you are not already good friends with them or they will politely ask you to shut your mouth. Make the Jewish person Jealous by leading them toward the Laws of Moses. They will find salvation not in the Law but by going to synagogue. I have been in the presence of many Rabbis who do not outwardly claim that they beleive in Yeshua as the Messiah, but they are spirit filled nonetheless.

Also, the apparent NO to Yeshua as the Messiah, is a resounding YES to the Abrahamic Covenant. That is what G-d has been trying to get them to do for centuries. And it is what G-d asked all of the 70 Nations to take on at Mt. Sinai, but they rejected the Laws of Moses then. Sound familiar?

And then many beleivers say all you have to do is go to church when ALL Jews are commanded to live by the Abrahmaic Covenant. Yes, I disagree with my "Jews for Jesus" brethren on this issue as well. Every Jew is commanded to live by the Laws of Moses even if they beleive that Yeshua is the Messiah. Otherwise, there will be NO JEWS left for our Messiah to come to. Jews and the Nation of Israel needs to worship like Jews have always done or Israel is not a Jewish Nation.This is also another reason that most Jewish people reject Yeshua as tehir Messiah. They have to give up what we love. G-d Himself gave the Laws of Moses to our people so if we reject the Laws of Moses we reject G-d the Father of Yeshua Jesus.

To our brethren that stated that christians should call themselves beleivers in Yeshua Jesus. You hit the mark. Bullseye! While many Catholics are born again and spirit filled, the governing organization is not and they are not christians - the Pope and the Cardinals, specifically. I wont speak for every individual, but many of teh cardinals who have power to elect the pope serve Jesus by day and worship satan at night. Yes. That is exactly what some of them do at night.

Make the religious Jewish person Jealous as commanded in the scriptures. Even the Jewish people will agree to that! Resoundingly agree! If someone speaks against or disregards the Laws of Moses is put to death on the witnesses of 2 or three witnesses Hebrews 10:28-31. :thumbsup:

Shalom my brethren,

Yacov

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