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One time I attented a church meatind and during the worship someone started speaking very loud(no that it matters) in tounges ( a languish no one heard or new. It was a minute about, the leader said Lord give us the interpretation and after a few seconds someone else spoke in English. I went back to that church and it happen like it was something often .it was word of love , promice from Jesus encouragement guidance something like that. In other churches they don't allow any of that. Your experience I don't judge, I can not , but to limit the gift to your experience and somebody else I wiil judge all the time. I will sugest that you ask Jesus to give the tounges to some else and the interpretation to another, and not to you or the people you shoose. The error is present when some says I will induse with my will the speaking of tounges and.....then is not God given but self induse. May be that Jesus is preparing for a gift(s) but you reading other people suggestions you are misidentified. Also some other spirit may have aproch you and you have accepted it thinking it is from God because of your thirst. Bring it to Jesus in prayer. Some times Jesus let happen this way so you will know how to discern one for the other. Saying that I may say the Lord is building you up in the gifts of identifying the counterfeit gifts from the enemy. I speak not from reading a book which I can not judge in totality, but listen to your brother when you read not just books but even the scriptures don't see things just they way you like. Remember the growth comes by pruning. And with all the respect examine carefuly what you perceive. Have you learn how to examine what we think. My suggestion study law on your own learn how to develop sound reasoning and the Holy Spirit helps and the devil likes to be part of our growth. Can you not see every body says only the Holy Spirit will speak to me and they say not only things that are frivolous but that opposed one another and to scare people not to oppose them, Dear brother we also have our own understanding and our own spirit who is not the Holy spirit and communicates with us and our own thoughts carefully

I don't wish to side track and start an agreement but saying Paul said that in Hebrews , many will see it not that you are just taking sides, but you are trying to use Paul's gredibility, Jesus beginning we know and Jesus knows Melhisedec beginning and that is when he was born, I mean Melhisedec selebrated his birth days. I understand that is a good figure of the future high pried who is not going to be the seed of Aaron and has to be a King , Is the most fascinated picture, David is not born yet , we don't have Aaron yet, maybe not Isaac yet. And we have the picture of Jesus Christ ,the blood of the new covenant, and the bread of life. That is given not only to Abraham but to everyone It's amazing, I like that you say may also has something to do with Abraham, it must the hole episode is very prophetic please I will.be glad to here your input, you are a man without fiction in this amazing historical event Timothy

When the creator of all, the same one who breath the life into Adam, the one who had the life, went in the egg of Mary, he must have stop existing in his previous been, it is not possible to continiun in the formal state. He is in the new now and only in the new. He is in the fleas or he has a boddy now or he is found in human form, not the seed of a any man,"the Lord has prepare a boddy for me" Jesus repeatedly was saying to the Jews I am the Lord of the Sabath, the one who gave you the Sabath is me before I come to be with you, been just like you born as a baby, EMMANUEL , Before as the Lord God the Father of the Jews (Israelites) in my old Glory as the father of the Israelites, an eye agains an eye, I say no more an eye agains an eye. The great I Am won't come to war with me to defend his rules and his people and punish me, for working on the Sabath, he is more. Now it is me EMMANUEL and the haevenly Father which was never introduce to you. The old me was resting on the Sabath. And he has rested from his creation. Jesus said it the Sabath day but The Father is working on the Sabath and so do I. Certainly he is talking about the heavenly Father. One of the questions would be. Was EMMANUEL born with all the knowledge and the Wisdom and ......... of the his old self ? Besides the Life, did he bring everything with him in this world as an baby? Or he had to start from scratch? " the boy was growing in wisdom and understanding ". Understand the annoyeding was with him teaching him. Definitely what he was discussing with priest at 12 years old he did not learn from his parents or some other neibour, it must be the annoynding. Jesus said , the Heavenly Father has reveal him self to me only and to no one else (at that time) No boddy knows him and ........ So it is impossible when Philip said sow us the Father to mean the haveanly Father, that's impossible like takes us to heavens to see the Father or bring the Father down here. Philip must meant without a dout the Father of the Israelites. they were the children of the Lord God. And Jesus said , not possible now is me. I am the Fathet of the Israelites. If you don't have me , you are without God. said

Abraham must have some spiritual gift from God, In the past Abraham had met some times Angels from God and even later than this episode. The reaction from Abraham was different than his reaction when he met Melhisedec. First Abraham was not alone. Other people were with Abraham. Melhisedec was not alone his army was with him, his supplies were with him, They must have cultivate wines and wheat ..... to have flour and bake it and grape juice to make wine (and it takes time to make the wine) Melhisedec also eat and his men. Abraham and all the people with him, even the King of Sodoma and Lot all of them act like they know who he is, they recognize him and he recognize them, looks like Melhisedec was willing to fight along with Abraham, he must know without any doubt that Abraham will never loose. Maybe, I say maybe, he had a complain that Anraham did not call him to the fight so he can have part of the spoils. Yes it is very clear that the new him very well. Now if you ask Melhisedec or any one of his men there. What do you that they new his father's name or not ? What about his mother and his children. This king had many people as his subject, you say it was the old name for Jerusalem. After some years if you go to his city and ask, who is your King ? What do you think? Would they continuously say King Melhisedec ,King Melhicedec or at some time they will say, we have a new King, Melhisedec died already. What do you think they will say if you ask them. May I visit his tomb ? I am not rude, just how I see it anyways. All the other Kings in that story, the same as Melhisedec we don't know their fathers and or mothers and when they died. What does that mean to you , to the one who knows how to read to much in this istorical even. Perhaps we should ask Abraham what does he says about Melhisedec, who is he ?

To start with we need to collect informations, not opinions. Jesus is the door to heaven, he is the first, he open the door not only for himself but also for his children. God gave him the heavens as his inheritance, that's why he can say, where I am you are going to be also. So the heavens was close, before the attoment. [the Adamic separation from God] But we dont only see Elias going heaven, we must see that: a) he did not died b) the chariot c) if he had died, the one who took all the humans even Jesus will come and take him. d) God had given Abraham and his children a sepersted place, not on earth and not in heavens for sure (man was not created in heavens, he was created on earth) Abraham stil captive to death, Adamic inheritance So at his death he was led to captivity or Hades or Seol like any other human, ( with the exaption of the few which ones God snatch them from earth before they died) But Abraham was not like any other human he was found with the rightsneounesh of God but not Gods life, still under the Adamic inheritance. But God gave him his own inheritance and that was on the only place it could be. David call on the sides of sheol. But separated from all the rest of the other people in the captivity , Sheol or Hades. Jesus said I have the keys of Hades and Death. They call it Paradise a peasful place, Waiting for Christ to come and set them free, When Christ will come to set them free, What do we mean to set them free? Only them? Did not Jesus died for all? Then first he gave the life to them and then he went to the others to all the people who had died before. Are all the people suppose to here the gospel and be judge by Christ according to the gospel? Was it possible for them to here the gospel before they died? Of course not, they had died before Christ. Did not Jesus say: the dead will rise first. Those who believed did they not receive the life down there? If they did not then Jesus did not have the life. With the exodus from the captivity, did not God gave Jesus the heavens for him and his children? How can someone suggest the children have a place but Jesus does not want them to be with him ? Or they can not go there. They are out of the captivity or not? If they are out , what then, are they wandering around where? On earth? Why on earth? They have a place in heaven or not? Did not Jesus teach us something when the jail was shaken ( not an earthquake in the area, only in the jail, strange). everybody's restrains fell loose but only the believers were set free. The Adamic paradise was a place on earth, if not how else take earth and so and so and then you know, trees animals.....cultivation ....children.... no agreements maybe in middle east -study the scriptures-- but the spiritual paradise is was forbiden to man, man can not access the fruit of life , despaire? For a time till the fruit of life comes out from to be with man, now man can eat bread of life and live forever, his life, his rightsneounesh, His holiness, we are his children as he is we are, He is our peace. I know about having ones own rightsneounesh but at the end is his --no boasting ther, ours for rewards and Jesus knows. The Lord God said in the old " there is not God in Israel, the living go to the dead. Why Jesus is not alive? If we need to know something he wan't tell us. Ask and he will tell.0 Did God sent transportation for Jesus like Elias ? He was not lifted up, as he was, he came from heaven and finaly he was going back there but not before he had descended to the very deapts, and how can he descent to the very deapts, is it possible in the body?

It's not clear to me the second commandment, What is a fight? How does it starts, how is escalating? What is the alternative ways to avoid escalation.

During the worship service in a church than once I attented something happen, which was new to me. While we are singing a gentle hymn, someone from the cogregation in a loud voice spoke in another tong, in a manner of giving instructions. In about a minute or less, someone interpreted the message in English. I learn that was tongs and interpretation, one of the gifts of the holy spirit. Another time, during a prayer for a job for one of the members, who was waiting for an answer to a job interview, the church was praying, the job is ours, in the name of Jesus, we claim it in the name of Jesus and so on........you may say that's wonderful that's very positive. Suddenly someone said: the Lord has close this door and she is under qualified. Immediately they rebuke the person in the name of Jesus, saying you are not in unity, agreement with us, you are a jinx, please leave. But another brother who work in a lawyers office, made inquiries about the prospective employer and found out that there are outstanding harassment complains agains the prospective employer. Both times I learn something. During his time on earth Jesus met some people who only had earthly glory in their minds. They had explain the prophetic of the Kingtom of God and his Christ as an earthly Kingtom, and the enemies as earthly enemies(Syrians Egyptians,neibour nations, O!!! We forgot the Romans), and the Throne of David as an earthly throne. Jesus said. Let's get away from them. His disciples who had the same teachings and hope they may have said to themselfs, his time has not yet come. They did not understand what he was telling them. But Pilate, understood him, that he is not a threat to the Romans (he never spoke agains them, to the contrary, when the Romans asked for his help he gave it to them. Healing their sick, and even raising their dead, he gave them life not death.) thats a prophetic picture ,(he raised Jweish fead too) that he will life to both Jews and Gentiles. Pilate understood spiritual Kingtoms and he beleived Jesus when he said, my Kingtom is not from this world. Jesus went through his own tribulations before he received his glory. Jesus said, if you love me and obey my commandments me and my Father will come and make our abode in you. He did not say I will leave the throne in heavens and the Father will leave heavens for that to happen,( then he will be only in one person at a time). Jesus and the Father can be with as without leaving the heavens, come Lord come. Let's prepare our harts so we can be a desirable vessel for Jesus to come and be the king in our life. Then we will see him in our circumstances, Peter obeyed him and went to Kornilius family. (One example, ), we will hear his voice in our harts and he will tell us what and how he things about us. And will have his guidance, correction, and instruction not only for our selfs but for his ministry.

When I was first introduce to this scriptures about the armor, I did not relate to it well. First of all i did not have any good understanding about many thinks Paul is referring to, and became very fearful. I wish someone had explain to me many things that I should have know as to wellcome these scriptures with a peaceful mind and hart. The breastplate of rightsneounesh, Now I know that I have that plate, his rightsneounesh which is by faith,( I don't need to be afraid, Jesus is not going to sent me to hell, I am not going to hell), it is not only the devil who can come and torment me that I am lost, because of this and that, how about my own self, my own consience, and my own confusion can do a very good job there, and we still have the other zealots who try to scare me, and to make me beleive to trust on my own rightsneounesh. How about the one, fighting evil spirits, wickedness and so on .... That really put a grip of fear on me, can you imagine, they can see you, they are very smart, and how about me I don't see them, I did not know when they are around, I don't have a clu what kind of devils they are. Does somebody thinks we may have a fair fight? Instant of building up my confidence these scriptures put a great fear on me.

The Jews two thousand years ago had a building, and I don't mean a literal building the Temple. The had a spiritual building. The corner stone been, Moses and the Law with their holidays, the priest, their sacrifices, forgiveness of sins and so on. Me or you if we live that time we would very likely defent what we had, after all that was given to us by God himself. How about if we were high priest. To accept what Jesus said would mean that we loose our status, we loose our jobs, we loose our pride, we would become equal with anyone else, even a Gentile. It is not as easy as it seems. But after all it was the will of God for them to reject Jesus, if not Jesus will never shed the blood of the New Covenant. And we never have the new building with Jesus or the blood of Jesus as the corner stone. And we the beleiver, as spiritual stones upon his corner stone for a spiritual building acceptable to God, we can not bring our own rightsneounesh to this building. (the building if the good stewards is another one.) One of the missions we have would be to explain the Gospel not to the rest of the world only but also to the Jewish nation. You post is a good post, God will bless more and more.

I will start with a sweet story, been careful not to cause fear to someone, sometime ago on the first day on my way to college as I was about to go through the main entrance I got cold feet, thoughts, that I was not ready and that I would fail took me over, and as I was about to turn around and run away, I heard a voice right behind my self "go in" and at the same time I felt a spiritual presents gently and firmly pussing me throu the door, I did not turn to look behind me, but in my mind or spirit I saw it, about three feet taller than me.and a lot wider, just a spiritual form no facial discripions on cloths discripions just a spiritual presence. I immediately said to my self" Jesus has sent an angel to help me with my studiies" and I went throu the door strait to the classroom. I did beleive that Jesus could help me with my studies, but I did know how. One time I was on the 25th floor of an apartment building,downtown, when I look outside the window I saw an amazing picture, a beautiful blue sea ,my thoughts, I am a good swimmer and I was in my youth very proud of it, so I climb on the edge of the window balancing my self for the dive, as I spring my legs up for the jump, just almost letting go, some spiritual presence block my way and puss me back inside.at the same time my head clear, I looked out the window, I sow all the traffic and the hard pavement. Thanks God he save my life. Some times I am thinking on my own would never have seek Jesus to be part of my life.

I may say that when God lost some angels from heaven to the rebelious one, perhaps he wanted to create man, for more than one reason. a) that eventualy have some children in heaven.that will remain with him forever and to make it impossible to be taken from him by the rebellious one, because they are their not with their own rightsneounesh but with his. b) to eventualy also judge the rebellious one who was holding the humanity captive. c) so he could be glorified having triouphing upon the rebellious one and receive his glory in heaven. It seams from the beginning was some rivalry between the two of them, that had to be settle. Who would inherit the throne of God in the heaven and become the ruler. I think that was not an inherited position and that would have to be earn.

Its good to love Jesus and want to witness. He is able and can give us the desire of our hart. Some times, we may be carried away by our senserity and may not do it very perfectly. An example: Why someone as a beleiver (in Jesus) is so severly judge by other beleivers ( those who claim Jesus wants only them). I am trying to do my best not to sit in the judgement sit of Jesus Christ. I am trying not to practice that Jesus likes the hot ones only. If the cold ones they are not good to many hot ones, I know that they are good to Jesus. He likes them and he said they are in me and I have not a desire to throw them up, they are not upsetting my system. Why don't we show them the love of Jesus by telling them the trouth, that their faith is accepted from Jesus apart from their works or witnessing. Jesus is our peace with the Father. And if Jesus likes them, why don't we leave them alone to him. Why, do you want to make them hot with your own strength? carefull you don't make them lukewarm instant of. Do you know, there is not reward for that, but only judgement. And hopefuly it may lead to growth. Let's leave them to the love of Jesus.

Abrahams was justified before God, When he beleive God about a promise God made to him. At this point and time Abraham was a righteous man. Still separated the walls still up. He complain why I can not be with you, you only come and visit me. Was he a righteous man before he was justified? Will he be righteous as long as he lives? If Abraham stop beleiving that God is able to do what he promise, or buy land and or settle some place and mix with some local people.....or go back to the place he came from? If Anraham did not follow God when he ask him to do the sircumsition or change the guidelines of... Whould he still remain righteous? We may see that God had a plan for Abraham as long as he remain righteous. Abraham did not know the timing and the events and how, the did not the bleuprint. God started a family with Abraham, he took a people for him self. Poiting to the seed to come. We see how the way begins for the coming of Christ. We have two people, the first one is the earthy and the later is the heavenly. Two families the earthy and the heavenly. the spiritual the one with the life- born from above- When you see the sign of Moses and the snake in the desert on the wood up highb , the snake beeing the unfallen son of God, then the people will be heal from the bite of the serpents, only by looking. Then the heavenly children will apear. The new family of God includes the whole World. I have not come to judge the world but to save. Two blessings, the earthly one God giving rightsneounesh by faith and obedience to specific commandments .(later through the Law and the sacrifices) rightsneounesh but not the life of God and not the heavenly promise inheritance (land) . Rules and rituals that give rightsneoush Which can not Bring down the walls.(plural), open doors (plural). And the heavenly one.. Jesus the Christ, the second Adam, the son of God, who was righteous from the beginning till the end. Who was obedient to God in everything, How could he loose his rightsneounesh? And then what? Jesus did the works all the way to the cross and beyong ( what happen beyong) before he comes back to earth? Where did he go? And to whoms and why and with what gifts? Jesus beeing righteous and without loosing his rightsneounesh he gives us his rightsneounesh. How can he gives his rightsneounesh away and he can still have one for him self? That's an ultimate, paramount question. Does he have two rightsneounesh? Jesus said if someone has to coats and he gives one to the one whose does not have .........(I don't remember it correctly). Yes he does have one he is born with, the one he brought with him and the one he earned with his obedience all the way to the cross. We have his rightsneounesh and he still has he own, and we have his life free gifts of faith. As he is so we are, thats his glory, his honor. And we are cloth with his glory here on earth also. You can have your own glory with your works of charity, a different glory for suffering for the Gospel like many in the past and always..... There are different kinds of redemption for the earthly situations but for the heavenly his blood. There are many heresies from sensered people who love Jesus and their willing to died for him. They have the trouth when say Jesus died for us, but not in some other things. They are still under the blood, under Grace. Even if they try to earn the imputed gifts.no glory for that. But that helps them to stay away from sin even imaginable sins, so they can severly ruthlessly judge others and become very proud...... But we want to have only the love of God, You are a bless ministry, thanks God for that

Messianic Jews do beleive in Jesus Christ, God the Father and The Holly Spirit. They promote the Baptism in the Holly Spirit, they understand the Gifts of the Spirit, they pray for healing and..... Good to know without judging that there are only charismatic messianic Jews beleivers, that I know. Some they may mix their old culture to their practicing of the faith, but perhaps to attract Jewish Jews to their meetings. The fraseology people use about the trinity is ofen what scandalize some people, instant see how they express and practice their faith.

I have a friend , who tells me all the time my wife went to church. I don't ask him any questions, and I don't inquire why did she go to church and what did she do there? I perceived that he was telling me that I should go to church. One day when I met her I found out that she was Jewish (judaist). Then I had to ask him. Why your wife does not go to the synagogue? He then informed me, that his wife is Judaic Jew missionary. She goes to churc to meet some jewish beleivers in Jesus and she tries to bring them back to jewdaism. One day when I heard going to church does not make you a Christian, it had a different meaning. In a wedding service not every one in the church is a beleiver. I ask him. Are you Born Again? My.freind who is Jewish said. Do you know when someone believes Jesus died for us, what it means? I said you must be born again. He said you go and be born again but I will beleive all the time that I am under the blood of Jesus. I said going to church does not saved you. I am wondering am I trying to save someone who is saved? Are both of us children of Jesus? Are both of us born from above?

I have to be careful how I communicate my thoughts. When I wrote "Jewish beleivers" I ment messianic Jews. Sorry for that, and I want to thank bopeep for clarifieing, unwilling I may have confuse someone.

All jwesh beleivers strongly support that Jesus is the eternal life, the life giving spirit. And they do beleive that Jesus had the life of God and not the fallen nature of the first Adam. No man took part in his conception . To Mary you shall consive trough the holly spirit. The don't need to adapt to someone else's phraseology.

Many times I have suffer in the hands of many sensere brothers, who can not speak like Paul as Paul speaks at the beginning of his letters. Strange they read what he wrights. They should try to read his letters with an empty mind, just like children, not with a lot of information, trying to explain him. If we all remember Paul was a Lawyer.

It very important what you have just reveal and God bless you. Paul, repeatedly is telling us that Jesus created everything and John also. Jesus said clearly no one has seen the Heavenly Father, only the one who has come from above knows him and look, no one has heard his voice, only I hear his voice and I bring his word to you ( that's why we call him the word) I am the Lord of the Sabath ? Jerusalem Jerusalem I sent you my prophets and you keel them one by one (I hope they don't do this to you with this post--me I am ok,because I am already dead) When he said " our father in heaven, the Jews would like to keel him, (no our father is in the temple ) Jesus said, even now , the beast of desolation is sitting in the temple. I beleive Jesus has ordain you as instrument to open the eyes of the spiritual blindness of the Jews and bring them to him You are an annoytend vessel.

Under the blood of Christ: What does it mean? The Jewish people were they under the blood? What is the difference? What about the Baptism of John? Forgiveness of sins? No blood?

Very ofen I have been ask these questions. Do we need a Christ? Does Christ had to be like us? Does Christ had to be a Jew? Did Davit call his Lord God the Christ to be? Can we say that the Christ is the same as the Lord God of David? What does Emanuel means? Does it mean our God with us? How may we understand who are the people refereed in the word "our"?

Something happen to me, when I read the part that says, you must not eat meat with the blood in it. Immediately I became conscious (because I wanted to have a good consience towards God) and I stopped eating medium rare steaks. Later I realize that I wrongly had taken this instruction Paul was not giving COOKING instructions. I now thank God for this experience, I learn to make carefull examinations of anything that causes fear to me. Jesus was giving instructions to his disciples who were Jews, and accustomed the old testiments guidelines how to make their petitions to God. From now on don't go to the priest and make sacrifices and don't call upon the name of the God of Israel. ( why? Jesus was the Lord God of Israel, EMMANUEL, the Lord of the Sabath, the Father of the Jews,) New things, from now on, you ask me only or the Heavenly Father in my name. Knowing God will give him the throne. Everything is given to me. Ask everything in my name, he cut them out from the priest and the Jewish worship. Well that instruction is good for the Jews who beleive to come out of jewdaism, and not to teach the Gentiles to become Jewish. Whatever.

Dear brothers thank you for your response, which is always wellcome. May God richly bless all the people but especially you , who care for his children.

Is it in the epistle of John that when someone believes that Jesus is the son of God is born from above? Is John mature in age and faith when he wrights this instruction? Is it the same as John 3:16? Is John or Jesus referring to spiritual birth? Are they both referring to spiritual birth, informing that the spiritual birth comes by faith? What is the spiritual birth? What is the inheritance of the spiritual birth? Is it possible for someone who is fount with the spiritual birth that Jesus will sent to hell? Caution I did not say other people, ( meaning the judgement of some devout "Christians" ) I said Jesus!!! Why my brother who is a bishop ( in the born-again movement) sees me burning in hell, even thought I am with the faith that Jesus is the Christ? Does Jesus sees me with faith in him or with the denial ? When Jesus looks at me, am I his own or a child of the AntiChrist? What kind of heresy my brother is captive to and how can I help him to be set free?

It is very important to me, not to quickly express my point of view. Rather subject it to review. Paul said, the gospel you first heard. What was the gospel they first heard? Is it the gospel Paul preach on his return from spenting long time with Jesus? Paul says it is. I would like to know, if you permit it, what gospel Paul heard when he was the enemy of Christ? What gospel Paul preach at first and a litle later? And what gospel Paul preach after the revelation he received from Jesus ? I may gues, if you permit. It is easy: all the time he said, that Jesus is the Christ, that he is the promise Savior and the one who bring us to God. The disagreements starter when the gospel was given to the Gentiles. The understanding that Jesus Christ is for the Jews only, is not truth. It is a heresy, but is not a heresy that denies Jesus as the Christ, the followers still belong to Jesus. The disciples, even Paul at the beginning and for years they preach the gospel to the Jews only. We know the kornilious story, and the pentecost of the Gentiles, before they were baptize in water. To preach someone can not be baptize with the Holly Spirit unless he is water baptize first and make it an absolute requirement is not the truth. Do you like to see something else? Peter did not prayed for them, because he did not beleive that the GENTILES WERE ALSO HEIRS OF THE PROMISH ( may they prayed or desired to have forgiveness of sins also in Jesus, they must know the scriptures that the he is to be the Savior also for them.) is it that Jesus did it on his own to teach something to the proud Jews beleivers. Later the other diciples at first told Peter: you have follow a false spirit and that the Gentiles received a false spirit. Back to the tex. Perhaps beleivers from Paul's old preaching to sircumsition or Peters ....said to Galatians what they beleive to be truth. (with sensirety in their harts, but no wright) that they are not saved unless they be sircumsised ) that's a heresy it judges faith in Christ- senserly confuse, but they still belong to Jesus .