2012

[glorywatch]

Permission was granted, so here is what George wrote:

Recently the Lord has been showing the significances of times and seasons and I've been spending time in the Word as well as stumbling along realizing there's quite a few significant dates coming up.

On Rosh HaShannah this year, we entered into a new 7 year cycle with the sabbatical year just ending so I've been doing some research to see if there's any interesting events that may be happening during the next 7 years. What I found was staggering -- and I'm still trying to digest it all.

I stumbled upon a site called -- timeanddate.com and it has an interesting page that allows you to see what date is coming up in the future. For example, if you go to -- Time and Date -- and place in there -- June 7, 1967 -- 6 7 1967 -- the day that Jerusalem was taken back by the Jewish people -- and you extrapolated out the Jewish Jubilee according to the Jewish calendar -- 360 days per year instead of the Gregorian calendar of 365 days per year and multiplied it out by 49 -- 360 * 49 = 17, 640 days. You place 17640 in the days section of the calculator and make the computation, you'll realize that its September 23, 2015. If you look at the Jewish feast days for 2015 suddenly you realize that September 23, 2015 is Yom Kippur -- which is exactly the day that Jubilee begins according to Leviticus 25:9-10. So the year of Jubilee for Jerusalem -- as well as the conclusion of this 7 year cycle -- is coming up on September 23, 2015. And you coincide this with the blood moons over Jerusalem on Passover (Pesach) and Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) on 2014 and 2015 -- I believe it's going to be an interesting 7 years!

That's the most fascinating aspect of my recent studies although I've extrapolated out lots of different dates and how many significant dates end in this 7 year cycle on significant Jewish dates is staggering -- but it's too much for me to type out right now!

Something to really think about!

Amen! We have a close friend who has been studying the cycles in Scripture. How God does things over and over in cycles. They mean something. Ecclesiastes tells us there is nothing new under the sun. I don't really understand about all the cycles, fesitvals, feasts and all but it is so interesting and I agree that there is something to it.

[Bold Believer]

No man knows either day OR the hour. You can calculate until Gehenna becomes an ice rink, you won't be right. When will we Believers get it through our thick skulls that it's on GOD's time, not ours. Yeshua must be held in heaven until the restoration of all things (Acts 3:21).

Gog and Magog are doing their thing, so it may not be too long, but to say this day or that year is inviting yourself to being made to look silly. It won't catch US unaware because we are in Messiah. It's the godless who will be caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

[kross]

No on knows the exact timing except God (according to Jesus).

JESUS really said no one knew the exact time at the time HE said it. HE never said no one would ever know the day or the hour, HE just said no one did at that time.

[kross]

An ancient civilization created a calender, I believe it was the Mayans, that happens to end in the year 2012. For that reason, many believe that the world will end in 2012. The problem is, thats only 4 years away, and the tribulation itself will last seven years. How do they overlook that? Shiloh62

Both the Myans and the Egyptians have a similar calendar/ time line. Both of them have been interpretted to end on the exact same day, Decmber 21st, 2012. This date is based on establishing coincident evidence of historic events and points on the time line.

Those who study these things look for something that might happen to make this timeline mean something.

If the timeline is accurate, perhaps it will be the point when the meteor (Wormwood) falles to the earth.

It is because there are two of them from two different cultures on oposite sides of the world that they are given notice.

Regardless, we should be sharing JESUS like there is no tomorrow.

[OneLight]

No man knows either day OR the hour. You can calculate until Gehenna becomes an ice rink, you won't be right. When will we Believers get it through our thick skulls that it's on GOD's time, not ours. Yeshua must be held in heaven until the restoration of all things (Acts 3:21).

Gog and Magog are doing their thing, so it may not be too long, but to say this day or that year is inviting yourself to being made to look silly. It won't catch US unaware because we are in Messiah. It's the godless who will be caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

Please you show me where us "think headed Believers" have set a date. What I posted from George is very interesting and did not set any date as to His return, only stated a "season". Did you not read " I believe it's going to be an interesting 7 years"?

Why is it that you feel the need to attack people by calling them names?

Matthew 7:20

Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

Galatians 5:22-23 (New King James Version)

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

Some of your posts do not show any of the fruit of the Spirit, as in this one.

[OneLight]

No on knows the exact timing except God (according to Jesus).

JESUS really said no one knew the exact time at the time HE said it. HE never said no one would ever know the day or the hour, HE just said no one did at that time.

That is twisting scripture. Is not God the same yesterday, today and tomorrow? By your words, every piece of scripture holds no water for today, for it was written for those that lived back in the day and has no truthful meaning for any of us today.

[Bold Believer]

No man knows either day OR the hour. You can calculate until Gehenna becomes an ice rink, you won't be right. When will we Believers get it through our thick skulls that it's on GOD's time, not ours. Yeshua must be held in heaven until the restoration of all things (Acts 3:21).

Gog and Magog are doing their thing, so it may not be too long, but to say this day or that year is inviting yourself to being made to look silly. It won't catch US unaware because we are in Messiah. It's the godless who will be caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

Please you show me where us "think headed Believers" have set a date. What I posted from George is very interesting and did not set any date as to His return, only stated a "season". Did you not read " I believe it's going to be an interesting 7 years"?

Why is it that you feel the need to attack people by calling them names?

Matthew 7:20

Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

Galatians 5:22-23 (New King James Version)

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

Some of your posts do not show any of the fruit of the Spirit, as in this one.

Friend, I include myself in there. We ARE always trying to say this year or that year. Every time I turn around, I see or hear of some Believer (not just here) trying to say that the LORD is coming in (fill in the blank). All it does is make us look silly. Jesus tells us no man knows the time, we run right out and do what? Try to figure it out. Now, where I come, that's bein' thick headed. I wasn't even referring to what you posted. I'm using a generalization.

It's obvious that He is coming sooner than he was yesterday, but it's also obvious that WE don't know when. I'm not one for pious platitudes. I call a spade a spade. I'm more Peter than Paul. More son of thunder like John and James bar Zebedee. My point was that we as believers tend to do exactly what Jesus said NOT to do...worry about when he's coming. For all we know it's in the next 30 seconds or the next 100 years. So yes, WE are thick headed.

[kross]

No on knows the exact timing except God (according to Jesus).

JESUS really said no one knew the exact time at the time HE said it. HE never said no one would ever know the day or the hour, HE just said no one did at that time.

That is twisting scripture. Is not God the same yesterday, today and tomorrow? By your words, every piece of scripture holds no water for today, for it was written for those that lived back in the day and has no truthful meaning for any of us today.

No, what I am saying is that people are reading into what JESUS stated. HE never said that we would never know. HE gave us signs and seasons.

HE never said that we would never know. If you can show me where JESUS said we would never know, then I will agree with you. I am not saying that anyone will know or that anyone does know. The scripture is JESUS talking to people before HIS death and the giving of the HOLY SPIRIT. If GOD wants to reveal the day and the hour to someone, or all of us, through the HOLY SPIRIT, this scripture does not say HE can not do that. It does not say no one will ever know, it only states that no one knew at that time.

That is not twisting scripture, that is taking scripture for exactly what it says. HE never said we would never know.

I get absolutely fed up with people saying other people are "Twisting Scripture" when they bring a different understanding to these discussions. It is a shameful tactic that I am sick of.

[kross]

No on knows the exact timing except God (according to Jesus).

JESUS really said no one knew the exact time at the time HE said it. HE never said no one would ever know the day or the hour, HE just said no one did at that time.

That is twisting scripture. Is not God the same yesterday, today and tomorrow? By your words, every piece of scripture holds no water for today, for it was written for those that lived back in the day and has no truthful meaning for any of us today.

Actually it is twisting scripture to say that Jesus said no one will ever know the day or hour because that is not what He said. He said exactly what kross said He said that no one knew the day and hour. He never said no one will ever know the day or hour. Matter of fact He went on to say that the day of the 2nd coming would be like the days of Noah, the wicked didn't know the flood was coming but Noah knew exactly what day it would come, Thus will it been when the son of man comes. the wicked will be taken off guard the righteous will be ready and waiting.

Matthew 24:36-39

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Wish I would have read this before I replied.

[OneLight]

No on knows the exact timing except God (according to Jesus).

JESUS really said no one knew the exact time at the time HE said it. HE never said no one would ever know the day or the hour, HE just said no one did at that time.

That is twisting scripture. Is not God the same yesterday, today and tomorrow? By your words, every piece of scripture holds no water for today, for it was written for those that lived back in the day and has no truthful meaning for any of us today.

Actually it is twisting scripture to say that Jesus said no one will ever know the day or hour because that is not what He said. He said exactly what kross said He said that no one knew the day and hour. He never said no one will ever know the day or hour. Matter of fact He went on to say that the day of the 2nd coming would be like the days of Noah, the wicked didn't know the flood was coming but Noah knew exactly what day it would come, Thus will it been when the son of man comes. the wicked will be taken off guard the righteous will be ready and waiting.

Matthew 24:36-39

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Wish I would have read this before I replied.

You quote and agree on a verse, but do not see ... Verse 36 tells us. When Jesus said no man, He meant it. Are we not a man?