Is Genesis the story of the earth's creation?

[oliva]

Well, the old saying goes for me ... "God said it, I believe it, that settles it!"

The trouble starts when we try to add our understanding to His word where He has not been clear on the matter, and God knows I have been guilty of that in the past. When I do find myself siding with something that is not in scripture, I try my best to sit on it and keep it to myself. If it was important for us to know, He would of told us. This is the case of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. How long was it? Who knows? Does it matter? Not to me and I believe that He would of told us if it was important to us, but He did not.

There are so many mysteries in the bible that we could spend a lot of time discussing them, or we could use His word to be drawn closer to Him and do His work in our lives. Even though it is interesting to discuss them, there has been too many debates that have turned south on this one subject. I hope that this does not turn into one of those threads.

[oliva]

Well, the old saying goes for me ... "God said it, I believe it, that settles it!"

The trouble starts when we try to add our understanding to His word where He has not been clear on the matter, and God knows I have been guilty of that in the past. When I do find myself siding with something that is not in scripture, I try my best to sit on it and keep it to myself. If it was important for us to know, He would of told us. This is the case of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. How long was it? Who knows? Does it matter? Not to me and I believe that He would of told us if it was important to us, but He did not.

There are so many mysteries in the bible that we could spend a lot of time discussing them, or we could use His word to be drawn closer to Him and do His work in our lives. Even though it is interesting to discuss them, there has been too many debates that have turned south on this one subject. I hope that this does not turn into one of those threads.

thankyou for this, i was just thinking about it today. there are so many unanswered questions, to us, not soon enough, to God,

He knows, when to reveal, and what to do. So thats why its important to ask for His guidance everyday , and those who can hear,

let them hear, and trust and obey. Let love be our greatest aim......

[oliva]

Isaiah 51:3

QUOTE

For Jehovah hath comforted Zion; he hath comforted all her waste places, and hath made her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of Jehovah; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

Isaiah 51:3 makes a distinction between Eden and the garden of Jehovah.

No, he is not making a distinction. It is what is known in Hebrew as a Parallelism. In this case it is same thing repeated in different terms. It is a form of Hebrew poetry.

Has made her wilderness like Eden is repeated in the same verse in a parellel structure: "and her desert like the garden of Jehovah;" It is called a synonomous parallel and is one of three common Hebrew parallel structures that occur in Scripture.

When we examine the Abodes of Satan, we find that Satan dwelt in Eden the Garden of God then in Eden the Garden of Man. They are two separate places.

I am sorry, but they are not. They are simply to different ways of referencing the same place.

[oliva]

Isaiah 51:3

QUOTE

For Jehovah hath comforted Zion; he hath comforted all her waste places, and hath made her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of Jehovah; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

Isaiah 51:3 makes a distinction between Eden and the garden of Jehovah.

No, he is not making a distinction. It is what is known in Hebrew as a Parallelism. In this case it is same thing repeated in different terms. It is a form of Hebrew poetry.

Has made her wilderness like Eden is repeated in the same verse in a parellel structure: "and her desert like the garden of Jehovah;" It is called a synonomous parallel and is one of three common Hebrew parallel structures that occur in Scripture.

When we examine the Abodes of Satan, we find that Satan dwelt in Eden the Garden of God then in Eden the Garden of Man. They are two separate places.

I am sorry, but they are not. They are simply to different ways of referencing the same place.

Adam and Eve were tempted by Satan in the garden of eden. They ate of the forbidden fruit..

All men then therefore, were destined to die with no hope. When Christ died on the cross, all of that changed, now we can believe

and be saved, confessing, and growing in the spirit of Christ Jesus, having salvation to live for eternity. Today, people will still be

tempted by satan, his ways end in eternal death. Satan still tempts people, even though we are not, in the garden of eden.

BUT JESUS SAID, " I HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD, I WILL BE WITH YOU UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD "

[Guest Jermo60]

Genesis is a wonderful book. Imagine God walking the earth with you talking Torah everyday and just relating to Him. Adam had it all.

[kross]

Throughout scripture, the genesis account of creation is referred to as "creation". While I will admit that scientists have been able to muddy the waters a bit on the subject, I am more inclined to believe in the young earth than the "gap" theory.

But, I do not really care that much about what there was prior to Genisis1:2. What I know is that evolution will never be able to explain this creation.

[kross]

they just found a 47 million year old fossil named Ida.

do people still believe that Noah was mounted on a brontosaurus when he entered the ark?

let the explanations/excuses begin....

"you see what happened was....."

"what ther devil does is...."

"carbon has errors; im not an expert but what i thinks is...."

This is actually a funny post. Some people lay claim to something being something and you just take their word for it. We have a long way to go before this is ever proved. Some dating methods will date it at 1,000 years and some will date it in the millions of years. In the end, those who want to believe millions will discount the others as flawed and there is some form of contamination that seeped in. Those that want to believe in the shorter time period will point to the fact that the methods for measuring shorter time periods are more accurate.

And it will prove nothing. People of faith will "walk by faith and not by sight" and people of science will decide for themselves what they see and then declare it to be truth and everyone else to be wrong.

On and on and on...............................

[Guest Johnny_Blaze]

Isaiah 51:3

QUOTE

For Jehovah hath comforted Zion; he hath comforted all her waste places, and hath made her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of Jehovah; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

Isaiah 51:3 makes a distinction between Eden and the garden of Jehovah.

No, he is not making a distinction. It is what is known in Hebrew as a Parallelism. In this case it is same thing repeated in different terms. It is a form of Hebrew poetry.

Has made her wilderness like Eden is repeated in the same verse in a parellel structure: "and her desert like the garden of Jehovah;" It is called a synonomous parallel and is one of three common Hebrew parallel structures that occur in Scripture.

When we examine the Abodes of Satan, we find that Satan dwelt in Eden the Garden of God then in Eden the Garden of Man. They are two separate places.

I am sorry, but they are not. They are simply to different ways of referencing the same place.

Supporting scripture?....

JB

[Openly Curious]

I am a Biblical conservative or at least that is how I define myself. But it seems to me that the earth is more than 6,000 years old. I believe however that Genesis 1:1 is the story of the restoration of the earth from a previous state of existence. I believe that series of creative events recorded on the earth were 6,000 years ago. What say you? Am I way off base or close to the truth in your opinion?

Genesis 2:4--These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.

Genesis is not so much a story as it is the record to us of the beginning of creation which is evidence that there is a God that created the whole earth that we live in not only that but we can see all around us the nature, mountains, oceans, rivers and so forth the creation in and of itself is the evidence that God in fact is real but there are those who will not accept this knowledge in their minds and they are those who have been given over to a reprobate mind as a result of them who don't exccept the Lord as The Creator of all that is seen and all that is unseen. But God is maker and creator of all the heavens contains.

I do not think that the whole book of Genesis tells the story or record of the beginning that is created in Genesis 1 & 2 but from this place mankind starts forward living in the universe that God did make. But as man kept on forward there are those who did pray and adressed God in prayer the God of heaven and earth. But not all accepted or acknowledge God as you read further through the book of Genesis.

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[Guest shiloh357]

Isaiah 51:3

QUOTE

For Jehovah hath comforted Zion; he hath comforted all her waste places, and hath made her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of Jehovah; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

Isaiah 51:3 makes a distinction between Eden and the garden of Jehovah.

No, he is not making a distinction. It is what is known in Hebrew as a Parallelism. In this case it is same thing repeated in different terms. It is a form of Hebrew poetry.

Has made her wilderness like Eden is repeated in the same verse in a parellel structure: "and her desert like the garden of Jehovah;" It is called a synonomous parallel and is one of three common Hebrew parallel structures that occur in Scripture.

When we examine the Abodes of Satan, we find that Satan dwelt in Eden the Garden of God then in Eden the Garden of Man. They are two separate places.

I am sorry, but they are not. They are simply to different ways of referencing the same place.

Supporting scripture?....

JB

I am working off of the Scripture you provided. In addition, I speak and read Hebrew and can readily see the error in how you are approaching the text. In understanding Hebrew, I can recognize the use of the poetic genre and the use a parellelisms. It is common in Hebrew poetic form to refer to the same person, place or thing by different terms. I don't need to use any other Scripture than the every ones you are misusing to support the myth of the gap theory.