Obama's World

[irishcowboy]

It seems Obama is against everything the founding fathers of this country established. The Constitution, Bill of Rights mean nothing to Obama.

I have yet found anywhere where it shows a birth certificate of his that was filed with in five years of his birth....... have seen one that says Hawaii on it, but it was filed way way way (years) after his date of birth......

when recruiting, we were restricted on using a birth certificate that was filed with in a certain time frame of birth, and hospital certs were not used unless there were a couple other supporting doc's.......

so.....

the question is still in the air......

is/was Obama born as a USA citizen? if he were to join the military, would he be able to obtain a security clearance?

no one has actually answered the questions.....

if he is not, then the bill of rights, and the constitution mean nothing to him anyways.... if he was, then I think he needs to go back to the grade school i went to with the teachers i had and learn about american history and how we came to be......

I pray for him, he is in our leadership at this time. I pray that God has His way with Obama, and I pray that Obama does well, and is not unfaithful to, does not forsake the citizens he has swore to lead and protect.....

mike

[Guest LadyC]

i wonder if anyone realizes how easy it is to alter a birth certificate. my daughter's was altered by accident by some careless clerk, and i spent nearly a year fighting with social security office and two years fighting with the IRS after that trying to get them to believe that my daughter was truly MY daughter, and that she was the same one i'd claimed for the previous 8 years on my income tax returns!

[irishcowboy]

I have yet found anywhere where it shows a birth certificate of his that was filed with in five years of his birth....... have seen one that says Hawaii on it, but it was filed way way way (years) after his date of birth......

when recruiting, we were restricted on using a birth certificate that was filed with in a certain time frame of birth, and hospital certs were not used unless there were a couple other supporting doc's.......

so.....

the question is still in the air......

is/was Obama born as a USA citizen? if he were to join the military, would he be able to obtain a security clearance?

no one has actually answered the questions.....

YES he would be able to obtain a security clearance.

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/bir...rtificate_5.jpg

in this picture you will see that the date of birth was Aug 4 1961 and the date it was filed was Aug 8 1961. that seems to fall within the five year rule.

As the MEPS Liaison charged with verifying citizenship and age this would have been more than sufficient proof of his citizenship, even enough to get him a commission as an Officer, which requires citizenship.

This question has been answered 1000 times

sure don't look like the other two that I have seen...... so it is obvious that it has not been answered correctly, might have been 1000 times, but not correctly, one of the others i saw, didn't even have a "raised" seal.

have you ever looked at some of the copies of the SSN cards (being you worked at MEPS)? I mean really close??? some of the B.C.'s that came through also????? did you ever really look at them to ck the type, the thickness of the letters compared to other letters, the shape of the numbers compared to other numbers?

I did, and rejected a good number of them because of the lettering.... why? the type came from two different typewriters......

there have been some recruiters that would alter a doc, to get some one in fast, rather then wait upon a true copy from the dept of vital stats...... get the kid in, then order the document and when it came in then swap them.

I am not saying the one on the link you provided is true false..... this is not the same cert that was shown to me before.

now that he is in office, how is his brother doing in Africa? is he a US citizen also? just curious....

[Shiloh62]

It seems Obama is against everything the founding fathers of this country established. The Constitution, Bill of Rights mean nothing to Obama.

What ever became of that newsitem I read about where Obama was going to write a new Declaration of Independence? That sounded kinda scary.

[Guest Antoinette Michelle]

Good luck raising the hundreds of millions nessissary to take your case to the Supreme Court.

Who said anything about doing this?

I did.

Legal action is the only recourse when fighting a gvrnmnt.

Protesting only serves as a conduit to expend ones own personal frusteration until one 'feels' their energys spent and thus satisfied and appeased. But protests avail nothing as history, time and time again, have proven.

Remember history. The Gvrnmnt does whatever it pleases, reguardless of We The Peoples wishes.

17 executive orders in 2 months is Rule By Fiat, not democracy.

The events manifesting themselves currently in the public arena, began 20 years ago. One might have noticed then if they were not deverted by endless types of entertainments. America as it was is finished, and these are only the beginnings of sorrows.

1. The government does NOT do as it wishes. The Church's inaction allows the government to do whatever it likes. WE are the salt and light. If the salt loses its savor...

2. America was NEVER a democracy.

[ayin jade]

America as it was is finished

Yea I gotta agree with that statement.

[kat8585]

Evil men rule when good men do nothing.

Please show where that is in the Bible.

I don't know that it is in the Bible, but it is true.

[Fez]

Not being from the USA I look on with interest at what is unfolding under your new administration. I am not well versed in your contry's politics to make a rational attempt at an answer, except to say that my country is also on the slippery moral slope of decay.

What to do? I guess the first thing is to pray and pray and pray. "If My people will humble themselves and pray, I will heal their land", and God keeps every promise He makes. We just need to take Him up on it, and obey His word.

Oh for the days when your founding fathers, the first men to write the 1st ammendment, made the first financial decison your government ever made. The first funds were paid to obtain two ministers who could pray at the opening of all meetings.

Wouldn't that be nice, in my country and yours?

[Fez]

Evil men rule when good men do nothing. - not from the bible as suggested

I found out where this quote is atribbuted as coming from, a guy called John Curren. Who has a few others which I think are wonderful, so for your edification:-

"My dear doctor, I am surprised to hear you say that I am coughing very badly, as I have been practicing all night."

In debate with John Fitzgibbon, 1st Earl of Clare, Fitzgibbon refuted one of Curran's arguments by saying "If that be the law, Mr. Curran, I shall burn all my law books." To which he replied "You had better read them first, my lord." - kind of like read and know your bible before arguing it's facts - something I think we all need to do!