Homosexuality and evolution

[OneLight]

That is pure baloney. I have a cousin who is a zoologist and has had to dispell that myth a number of times. The dogs are not attempting to copulate. It is an attempt to assert domination, an attempt to establish itself as a the alpha male.

That is what I have read also. There are no homosexual animals.

You could try Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity by Bruce Bagemihl in which around 500 different species are documented as having homosexual and/or bisexual relations. Or you could visit the New York Aquarium if you're ever in the area and ask about their "gay penguins".

I agree that this does occur among animals but it's based on the 'gay for the stay' behavior seen in prison inmates (I heard this explained in some documentary I watched). In other words, it's opportunistic. As soon as a female shows up (never heard of female animals exhibiting homosexual traits, although they may) they revert to instinctive behavior, as do most inmates. Homosexuality would be counterintuitive for an animal since it doesn't ensure the survival of the species. For man, homosexuality is an abomination, we all know this. Humans are the only beings satan has sought to deceive and corrupt and there's a good reason for this; we are the only beings with souls.

Humans are not animals. No matter what the animal world does, that makes no difference in the human world. Man was created in the image of God, animals were not.

[P_Joseph]

I was wondering from those of you here who are more science-minded.

Would you say that homosexuality makes evolutionary sense, or that its prevalence would lead to the end of the species?

What I mean is - if an isolated population of a species had more same-sex coupling than heterosexual, how long would this population survive?

For the same-sex couples would not be reproducing. And the number of child-bearing animals would be less. So, how many generations would it be before there are not enough descendants to keep the population going?

not long! Gen.19: 24 Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land.

[Gauntlet]

An afterthought:

Is it that homosexual men can't or won't procreate with females? I've heard of homos having hetero sex just to make babies. But why/how, if they are atttracted to the same-sex only?

Human males are capable whether they are attracted to the partner or not; I will refer you to the many, many men who pick up hookers. Said hooker doesn't need to be attractive or interesting nor does the man need to feel any attraction to her. Go figure.

Without attraction, there is no sex.

[Gauntlet]

and because you are courageous enough to admit to some ideation, it's pretty clear that you made a choice.

I never made a conscious choice between homo and heterosexuality. I've always been attracted to the opposite sex, ever since I can remember. I come from a stable two-parent family. Had I not had the benefit of a strong father-figure during my formative years, who knows?

I just wanted to clear that up.

[Hunterpoet]

An afterthought:

Is it that homosexual men can't or won't procreate with females? I've heard of homos having hetero sex just to make babies. But why/how, if they are atttracted to the same-sex only?

Human males are capable whether they are attracted to the partner or not; I will refer you to the many, many men who pick up hookers. Said hooker doesn't need to be attractive or interesting nor does the man need to feel any attraction to her. Go figure.

there has to be something that attracts the male or nothing happens. As much as some might like to think otherwise.

[Guest]

Once AGAIN -

The question is over whether or not homosexuality will promote or defeat the survival of the species.

HOW DIFFICULT IS THIS QUESTION??!!!

(and yes I am shouting....)

What? What?

I Can't Hear You!

I've A Ringing In My Ear....

Of Course The Supposed Evolutionary Processes (Selection Of The Fittest) Would Naturally Have Long Ago Weeded Out Any Such Death Causing Behavior From The Evolutionist's Universe.

If I Would Play The Story Telling Game I Could Make Up A Guess Of At Least By The Worn Stage There Would Be Not Such Anti-Life Anti-Sanitary Behavior Left.

And Don't Worms Have Both Sexes In Each Individual! Does The Evolutionary Apologist Give Any Coherent Speculations As To Why Humans Don't Have The Same Sexual Make Up As Their Possible Great Great Great Granddad The Mighty Worm?

Now If You Toss Man's Philosophies And Stick To The Truth

You Will Find There Is One Race (Human) Of Men, Not Many (Evolution)

One Reason (Sin Again God) For The Corruption And The Death Of The Gene Pools

The Petrifaction Of The Water's We Must Drink From, The Filth We Breath In

The Eroding Soils We Farm With, The Dying Earth We Must Ride Upon

And The Hearts Of Hatred Men Show To Family And Neighbors

And One Hope (Jesus Christ And Him Crucified) For Peace Between Man And God

The Only Hope For All Of Life And Planet Earth Too

(IMO)

[MorningGlory]

That is pure baloney. I have a cousin who is a zoologist and has had to dispell that myth a number of times. The dogs are not attempting to copulate. It is an attempt to assert domination, an attempt to establish itself as a the alpha male.

That is what I have read also. There are no homosexual animals.

You could try Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity by Bruce Bagemihl in which around 500 different species are documented as having homosexual and/or bisexual relations. Or you could visit the New York Aquarium if you're ever in the area and ask about their "gay penguins".

I agree that this does occur among animals but it's based on the 'gay for the stay' behavior seen in prison inmates (I heard this explained in some documentary I watched). In other words, it's opportunistic. As soon as a female shows up (never heard of female animals exhibiting homosexual traits, although they may) they revert to instinctive behavior, as do most inmates. Homosexuality would be counterintuitive for an animal since it doesn't ensure the survival of the species. For man, homosexuality is an abomination, we all know this. Humans are the only beings satan has sought to deceive and corrupt and there's a good reason for this; we are the only beings with souls.

Humans are not animals. No matter what the animal world does, that makes no difference in the human world. Man was created in the image of God, animals were not.

Is this supposed to be an answer to my post? If so, I don't get it. Maybe you were answering something else???

[Guest]

....Is this supposed to be an answer to my post? If so, I don't get it. Maybe you were answering something else???

You Are Right!

This Whole World Is Fallen

And Sinner Man Point To The Wages Of Sin And Assert It Is "Normal And Good"

A Case Of Lowering Their Eyes Least They See The Glory Of The Gospel Of Christ And Be Saved I Think

[MorningGlory]

An afterthought:

Is it that homosexual men can't or won't procreate with females? I've heard of homos having hetero sex just to make babies. But why/how, if they are atttracted to the same-sex only?

Human males are capable whether they are attracted to the partner or not; I will refer you to the many, many men who pick up hookers. Said hooker doesn't need to be attractive or interesting nor does the man need to feel any attraction to her. Go figure.

there has to be something that attracts the male or nothing happens. As much as some might like to think otherwise.

Okay; I've never been a man (thank goodness!) so I have to go on what male friends and relatives have always told me about their gender. I'm afraid I'm outgunned in this argument. Is it my imagination or have the emoticons changed?

[MorningGlory]

....Is this supposed to be an answer to my post? If so, I don't get it. Maybe you were answering something else???

You Are Right!

This Whole World Is Fallen

And Sinner Man Point To The Wages Of Sin And Assert It Is "Normal And Good"

A Case Of Lowering Their Eyes Least They See The Glory Of The Gospel Of Christ And Be Saved I Think

What? I don't get it......