Holy Spirit

[Guest Caspar Meyer]

To: other one

Rom 16:25

[Guest Caspar Meyer]

There is ONE GOD, HE is SPIRIT and HE was manifest in Christ.

Rom 8: 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so it be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.

Do you get it? The Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Christ is the Spirit

1Cor 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ

2Cor 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken way.

17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. John 10:30 I and my Father are one. (Not two nor three !!!!!)

According to his Spirit Jesus Christ is the Father, the Spirit and the Son. The apostles always baptized in the name of Jesus. Acts 2:38, 8:16, 10:48, 19:5, Rom 6:3, 1Cor 12:13, Gal 3:27. In the name of Jesus the lame wacked. In the name of Jesus they cast out devils. In the name of Jesus they shall speak with tongues. We pray to God in the name of Jesus. There is no other God beside him and HE is the only person in God. Acts 4:12 , for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Rev. 4:2 A throne was set in heaven, and ONE sat on the throne. (not three) Rev. 7:17 For the LAMB WHICH IS IN THE MIDST OF THE TRRONE shall feed them, and lead them unto living fountains of waters and God shall wipe; away all tears from their eyes.

When we see Christ we see God. God and the Lamb. God is Spirit and only in Jesus Christ HE is man (flesh) too. One God (Spirit) in one man and not two nor three.

[stevehut]

The Holy Spirit is God, the third person of the Trinity.

[WISDOM]

Caspar, why don't YOU believe in the Triune personality of GOD? If the HOLY SPIRIT is NOT a person, why does JESUS HIMSELF refer to HIM in personal pronouns (John 14:15-17)?

What is your denominational/non-denominational background?

[2bba]

Is the Holy Spirit a person or just a force used by God?

God Bless

Jacqueline

"Holy Spirit, What is --?"

This is a very disturbing question to me the way it is posted.

I can take a lot of things but not calling I AM an "it".

I know it was not done to offend, but it does me.

[WISDOM]

Caspar, why don't YOU believe in the Triune personality of GOD? If the HOLY SPIRIT is NOT a person, why does JESUS HIMSELF refer to HIM in personal pronouns (John 14:15-17)?

What is your denominational/non-denominational background?

Caspar:

Are you going to answer my questionS?? :suspect:

[JesusisGod2]

Hi Casper,

I agree that the trinity is hard to understand, I myself attend an Apostolic church where they believe as you do, but I am not so sure.

God does not say that there are two other persons or gods beside HIM.

And yet Stephen saw this:

Acts 7:55

But being full of the Holy Spirit, he gazed intently into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God;

Here we see the triune God and yet God is one.

Here is Stephen testifies to all standing around through the Holy Spirit of seeing both the Father and the Son:

Acts 7:56

and he said, "Behold, I see the heavens opened up and 0] the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."

Another interseting passage of scripture is found in Daniel:

Daniel 7:

9

"I kept looking

Until thrones were set up,

(Notice here the term thrones)

And the Ancient of Days took His seat;

(God the Father)

His vesture was like white snow

And the hair of His head like pure wool.

His throne was ablaze with flames,

Its wheels were a burning fire.

10

"A river of (6) fire was flowing

And coming out from before Him;

Thousands upon thousands were attending Him,

And myriads upon myriads were standing before Him;

The court sat,

And the books were opened.

11 "Then I kept looking because of the sound of the boastful words which the horn was speaking; I kept looking until the beast was slain, and its body was destroyed and given to the burning fire.

12 "As for the rest of the beasts, their dominion was taken away, but an extension of life was granted to them for an appointed period of time.

Now notice what Daniel testifies to here and it greatly puzzles him as you read further down.

13

"I kept looking in the night visions,

And behold, with the clouds of heaven

One like a Son of Man was coming,

And He came up to the Ancient of Days

And was presented before Him.

Notice here that the Son is presented before the Father.

14

"And to Him was given dominion,

Glory and a kingdom,

That all the peoples, nations and men of every language

Might serve Him.

His dominion is an everlasting dominion

Which will not pass away;

And His kingdom is one

Which will not be destroyed.

This definately speaks of our Lord!

15 "As for me, Daniel, my spirit was distressed within me, and the (17) visions in my mind kept (18) alarming me.

You see that Daniel being a Jew is very confused here and distressed not only of the beast that are mentioned but of the vision of God.

These particular passages of scripture are what make me question the "oneness religious groups" There are many others but these in particular.

What are your thoughts?

In Jesus

Kevin

[AllforJesustheLord]

The Holy Spirit is a separate part of God in separation, and The Holy Spirit was sent from God, and yet is God's Spirit from Him, inside of Him. Now when the separation happened God sent His Spirit to do different things then He does, yet He is The Holy Spirit. So God chooses to do different things through different means, when He wants. Thus in the separation we See God's Spirit, doing things which are different then what He personally does sometimes, and yet other times He does exact what The Father does, the thought is, The Holy Spirit, and The Father each have the underlining purposes which are the same, yet in order to accomplish that, sometimes that is different in what they do, and other times they do the same things.

[other one]

It is my personal belief that the Holy Spirit is the spirit of the Father.  I can't tell you what the Spirit is for I don't understand.  It makes no sense to me to argue as to wether the Spirit is a person or not except to fit into someones definition of what the trinity is; which we have mostly agreed is a mystery and we don't understand fully.  I only refer to the Spirit as an it sometimes, because I don't understan what spirit is, and I know the Spirit is very very special.  We must treat the Spirit with much more care than we do the other two parts of the Trinity, so I really shy away from too much detail. 

Sam

In looking more into the Trinity from a different thread, I have changed my thoughts as to the Spirit being the spriit of the Father. I have spent much time contimplating and reading and have come to the personal conclusion that the Holy Spirit is more of the Son than the Father. The Father sends the Spirit of the Son so we can be one with the Son, as the Son was one with the Father. This gives us access to the Father through the Son.

I realise most of you probably think I'm nuts to start with for not buying into the general belief of the Trinity, there is just too much scripture that leads me away from that doctrine. It wil all work out in the end anyway, one way or another.

Sam

[Guest idied2]

The HOLY SPIRIT is GODS SPIRIT.

Eph 4:30

And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption

In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug: :hug: