O'bama's "Birth Certificate" NOT Acceptable in Hawai

[Guest yod]

No. You lose.

Well, really, it must be quite the conspiracy if there is a birth announcement in the local Hawaiian newspaper from a microfilm record of the newspaper. Even in the early 1960's, they didn't feel the need to use his full middle name.

and I could buy an add in that same paper anouncing my birth tomorrow. That proves nothing except someone thought to buy an ad.

Being born outside the US makes someone a non-citizen of the US. Not spending time outside the US.

If you are talking about Indonesia it does.

Indonesia didn't allow dual citizenship so the only way Obama could be a citizen (and that was required to go to Indonesian schools as he did) was to renounce any other citizenship.

I'm really tired of repeating this for you though. It's public knowledge if you really wanted to know...but you don't or you would.

[Ovedya]

As yod and Dannyboy said, because this issue, despite the fact that Obama is President, is not resolved. His legitamicy as a U. S. citizen is still in question, and it has still not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he is a citizen. The saddest part is, it would be extremely simple for him to clear the matter up.

I think for most people it has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt. The Hawaiian Dept. of Records, and state officials confirmed its authenticity long ago. You know WND's founder is an avid conspiracy theorist about this specific issue. According to Wiki he's vowed to use this issue to "...drive a wedge in an already divided public."

you mean the same wikipedia that had it's credibility destroyed when it became known that what was posted there was the "opinions" of someone else, as is being stated here about World Net Daily?

Wiki was just a convenient source for the quote. This is a known fact, and I could have referenced any number of sites.

Seriously, this is such an open/shut case. Do you guys seriously believe that there's a vast conspiracy trying to cover this issue up in the media to keep Obama in office? Really?.....

Were the issue even an issue then we'd see media interest....but there is none. It appears that only WND, which is owned by a person who has vowed to "get Obama" on this issue, is reporting on it. WND is unreliable because of the seriously misled, serious bias against Barack Obama. Just read the headlines on the main page - the guy is obsessed with Obama.

WND is not a reliable source of information due to its serious "slant."

[MorningGlory]

Who checked his mother's medical records?

there are 2 hospitals in hawaii where babies are delivered. Neither of them have any record of Ann Dunham checking in.

His mother was personal friends with the Rockefellers. His step-dad, Sotero, was given charge of Standard Oil Indonesia by the Rockefellers because of it.

And that bullcorn in his book about his mom on food stamps? Pshaw....what a crock.

Because I've investigated it instead of letting someone tell me what happened.

You can't just go in and ask if someone was admitted. That's confidential and they won't tell you. We have to remember it was 48 years ago, for Pete's sake, things can change a lot in that amount of time. So how was the medical information secured and by whom?

As for his mother being a personal friend of the Rockefellers....where did that come from? The Dunhams were not wealthy people or socially connected. What's the source of this information? No one else seems to have uncovered this so you are one up on even WND.

[BlindSeeker]

Were the issue even an issue then we'd see media interest....

Perhaps now (since there is a tiny, winy ray of hope that the media too is getting some doubts about the great O) they just might start addressing some of these concerns they refused to acknowledge . . .

Small chance, but maybe . . . .

[Ovedya]

Wiki was just a convenient source for the quote. This is a known fact, and I could have referenced any number of sites.

Seriously, this is such an open/shut case. Do you guys seriously believe that there's a vast conspiracy trying to cover this issue up in the media to keep Obama in office? Really?.....

Were the issue even an issue then we'd see media interest....but there is none. It appears that only WND, which is owned by a person who has vowed to "get Obama" on this issue, is reporting on it. WND is unreliable because of the seriously misled, serious bias against Barack Obama. Just read the headlines on the main page - the guy is obsessed with Obama.

WND is not a reliable source of information due to its serious "slant."

No, I don't believe it's a conspiracy. His supporters and the majority of the media simply don't care. Even if it was proven that he was not a U.S. born citizen, they still wouldn't care. And then you have people who swing way too far to the other side and have this burning passion to gank the man for everything because they are out to get him. I don't support that either.

Joseph Farah, the man who owns/runs WND is one of those with a "burning passion to gank" Obama.

[Bold Believer]

Being born out side the US is not necessarily a barrier to the Presidency. If one or both of his parents were US citizens on legitimate business outside the country, he'd still be a citizen. The problem with the man is not his citizenship, it's his obvious Communist/socialist leanings. There were plenty of other qualified black candidates for the Presidency, none of them ran this time.

Walter O. Williams and Thomas Sowell come to mind

[dakota190]

As yod and Dannyboy said, because this issue, despite the fact that Obama is President, is not resolved. His legitamicy as a U. S. citizen is still in question, and it has still not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he is a citizen. The saddest part is, it would be extremely simple for him to clear the matter up.

I think for most people it has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt. The Hawaiian Dept. of Records, and state officials confirmed its authenticity long ago. You know WND's founder is an avid conspiracy theorist about this specific issue. According to Wiki he's vowed to use this issue to "...drive a wedge in an already divided public."

you mean the same wikipedia that had it's credibility destroyed when it became known that what was posted there was the "opinions" of someone else, as is being stated here about World Net Daily?

Wiki was just a convenient source for the quote. This is a known fact, and I could have referenced any number of sites.

Seriously, this is such an open/shut case. Do you guys seriously believe that there's a vast conspiracy trying to cover this issue up in the media to keep Obama in office? Really?.....

Were the issue even an issue then we'd see media interest....but there is none. It appears that only WND, which is owned by a person who has vowed to "get Obama" on this issue, is reporting on it. WND is unreliable because of the seriously misled, serious bias against Barack Obama. Just read the headlines on the main page - the guy is obsessed with Obama.

WND is not a reliable source of information due to its serious "slant."

You are of course referring to the media that has given O'bama a pass on everything he has said or done since day one. the same "liberal" media that attacked Bush (I am not defending Bush here) for things that they are ignoring about O'bama. the same media that are not holding him accountable for his reversals, lies, and for his worldwide apology tour. repeatedly telling the world how bad we are and have been and while not holding him accountable for the thieves and liars he has appointed to his cabinet. the ones not holding him to following the Constitution drafted by this country, not a European constitution or a U.N. Charter.

that media??

I assume that you don't watch Fox News, or do you consider them to be part of a vendetta?

wouldn't it be fair to say that your statement that WND is NOT a reliable source of information due to it's serious "slant", is an opinion. I personally think that NBC, CBS, MSNBC, ABC, and all of the outlets recognized as being the major news outlets are guilty of seriously "slanting" of the news in an extreme liberal direction, which to me makes them an unreliable source for the news. which there are many that agree with me on that. so rather than debating who we personally think is the best source for the news why don't we stick to discussing the news that is posted and if someone thinks a subject has been beaten to death they are free to pass it by or to join in the debate about the thread posted. Good Idea?

[Matthitjah]

Ice Breaker!

What's one thing that God and Barack Obama really do have in common? Neither one of them has a birth certificate. Bada Bing!

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week and the next in Hoboken.

[kat8585]

Ice Breaker!

What's one thing that God and Barack Obama really do have in common? Neither one of them has a birth certificate. Bada Bing!

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week and the next in Hoboken.

[Axxman]

You know WND's founder is an avid conspiracy theorist about this specific issue. According to Wiki he's vowed to use this issue to "...drive a wedge in an already divided public."

Wait, wait, wait...

That is NOT what Farah said..even according to wiki. He said:

"It'll plague Obama throughout his presidency. It'll be a nagging issue and a sore on his administration, much like Monica Lewinsky was on Bill Clinton's presidency, it's not going to go away, and it will drive a wedge in an already divided public." wiki source ..and ...original quote source

"It"...is the complete issue surrounding the legal fight Obama is putting up over his birth certificate. The "it" is NOT Joeseph Farah. He didn't say "I will drive a wedge..." Obama is driving a wedge by spending nearly $1 million dollars fighting and being completely secretive, and misleading about the issue.

This was a misrepresentation of the entire quote on wikipedia.