Churches Promoting Adultery?

[precepts]

Are we an adulterous generation? I keep hearing sermons about sex outside of marriage but what about marrying someone who's divorced or not a virgin? Is it a sin? Are we an adulterous generation?

Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Food for thought.

[kross]

Are we an adulterous generation? I keep hearing sermons about sex outside of marriage but what about marrying someone who's divorced or not a virgin? Is it a sin? Are we an adulterous generation?

Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Food for thought.

NO, WE ARE A GENERATION OF GRACE

[elkieDannsa' Air An Drochaid]

Are we an adulterous generation? I keep hearing sermons about sex outside of marriage but what about marrying someone who's divorced or not a virgin? Is it a sin? Are we an adulterous generation

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Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Food for thought.

Good that they are giving sermons to keep clean from fornication, then perhaps people may understand the reasons for remaining virgins until married and that all of Gods ways bring us closer to Him and give us better relationships in life. Waiting until marriage can strengthen a marriage.

One can marry a person whom is not a virgin, as in Christ we are a new creature and the past is forgotten and healed and we look to both the present walk in the Lord and to the future in Christ. Keeping Christ our focus, not our pasts. So, no, it is not sin to marry someone whom is not a virgin when you met them. It is simply they had sin in their past. Just as there is other sin. I don't think people should make light of anything about any of it nor should they walk looking backwards at their lives either.

The commandments the Lord ask us to keep, He also helps us to keep in obedience and strengthening and understanding in the Holy Spirit's help, our Helper from Christ..

Adultery is serious also and I hope that people reason about their situations in marriage that even adultery can be forgiven and healed in Christ.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife has long been taught. However, we don't need to live in a disposable society's values and toss out a mate over it when God can heal it either. But, certainly, there is no need for adultery to ever happen even. As in Christ one would never want to commit that sin either.

As for marrying someone whom was once married before, each situation is different and needs to be considered carefully. Often is because of adultery that people are divorced. But, they should be spiritually free and it is better not to marry if there is question.

The reasons God gives us to strengthen faithfully our marriages are very important. The sin causes breaking of bonds and hearts. There is no blessing of sin.

The generation question, well, I certainly hope that is not true as you asked. I know many who love the Lord and have kept their marriages clean before Him all of their lives and are happy in Christ and each other.

In Scripture we see that it says that God hated the Nicoltines. Why? Because these were a people who continually gave excuses to make way to habitual sin and did not repent and draw near to God nor His ways. They had not love in them for God.

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The Scriptures are certainly talking about not breaking marriage covenants between husband and wife, nor going about making or finding excuses to divorce and remarry and not to take away another's wife or husband. Unforgiveness and a hard heart is not Gods way for us to live, neither is fornication nor adultery. We aren't to be unfaithful people.

Real Godly love is different than the worlds ideas of love.

We know the apostles taught as Jesus did that to avoid fornication and adultery and avoid any sort of pornea. To avoid even the appearance of evil. He whom is faithful in little things is faithful in big things.

It was not God who said to divorce, it was God who hated divorce. It was Moses whom allowed it for adultery and said it was due to hardness of hearts. I think that hardness of heart is both prior to the sin in the heart of the adulterer and afterwards, too, in the injured parties heart.

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We serve a Faithful Creator and He calls us to be faithful people.

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Lastly, the title you have, I must say,"NO. No church that is of Christ is going to promote that"! Certainly they are speaking to a generation that are seeing the pressure of fornication and trying to prevent it.

[precepts]

elk's

Good that they are giving sermons to keep clean from fornication, then perhaps people may understand the reasons for remaining virgins until married and that all of Gods ways bring us closer to Him and give us better relationships in life. Waiting until marriage can strengthen a marriage.

One can marry a person whom is not a virgin, as in Christ we are a new creature and the past is forgotten and healed and we look to both the present walk in the Lord and to the future in Christ. Keeping Christ our focus, not our pasts. So, no, it is not sin to marry someone whom is not a virgin when you met them. It is simply they had sin in their past. Just as there is other sin. I don't think people should make light of anything about any of it nor should they walk looking backwards at their lives either.

The commandments the Lord ask us to keep, He also helps us to keep in obedience and strengthening and understanding in the Holy Spirit's help, our Helper from Christ..

Adultery is serious also and I hope that people reason about their situations in marriage that even adultery can be forgiven and healed in Christ.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife has long been taught. However, we don't need to live in a disposable society's values and toss out a mate over it when God can heal it either. But, certainly, there is no need for adultery to ever happen even. As in Christ one would never want to commit that sin either.

As for marrying someone whom was once married before, each situation is different and needs to be considered carefully. Often is because of adultery that people are divorced. But, they should be spiritually free and it is better not to marry if there is question.

The reasons God gives us to strengthen faithfully our marriages are very important. The sin causes breaking of bonds and hearts. There is no blessing of sin.

The generation question, well, I certainly hope that is not true as you asked. I know many who love the Lord and have kept their marriages clean before Him all of their lives and are happy in Christ and each other.

In Scripture we see that it says that God hated the Nicoltines. Why? Because these were a people who continually gave excuses to make way to habitual sin and did not repent and draw near to God nor His ways. They had not love in them for God.

~~~

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The Scriptures are certainly talking about not breaking marriage covenants between husband and wife, nor going about making or finding excuses to divorce and remarry and not to take away another's wife or husband. Unforgiveness and a hard heart is not Gods way for us to live, neither is fornication nor adultery. We aren't to be unfaithful people.

Real Godly love is different than the worlds ideas of love.

We know the apostles taught as Jesus did that to avoid fornication and adultery and avoid any sort of pornea. To avoid even the appearance of evil. He whom is faithful in little things is faithful in big things.

It was not God who said to divorce, it was God who hated divorce. It was Moses whom allowed it for adultery and said it was due to hardness of hearts. I think that hardness of heart is both prior to the sin in the heart of the adulterer and afterwards, too, in the injured parties heart.

~~~

We serve a Faithful Creator and He calls us to be faithful people.

~~~

Lastly, the title you have, I must say,"NO. No church that is of Christ is going to promote that"! Certainly they are speaking to a generation that are seeing the pressure of fornication and trying to prevent it.

Sometimes I feel like I'm casting too much of my pearls. Not to sound too cheesy and foul things up, we should agree to disagree. Your logic and mines differ.

[~candice~]

elk's

Good that they are giving sermons to keep clean from fornication, then perhaps people may understand the reasons for remaining virgins until married and that all of Gods ways bring us closer to Him and give us better relationships in life. Waiting until marriage can strengthen a marriage.

One can marry a person whom is not a virgin, as in Christ we are a new creature and the past is forgotten and healed and we look to both the present walk in the Lord and to the future in Christ. Keeping Christ our focus, not our pasts. So, no, it is not sin to marry someone whom is not a virgin when you met them. It is simply they had sin in their past. Just as there is other sin. I don't think people should make light of anything about any of it nor should they walk looking backwards at their lives either.

The commandments the Lord ask us to keep, He also helps us to keep in obedience and strengthening and understanding in the Holy Spirit's help, our Helper from Christ..

Adultery is serious also and I hope that people reason about their situations in marriage that even adultery can be forgiven and healed in Christ.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife has long been taught. However, we don't need to live in a disposable society's values and toss out a mate over it when God can heal it either. But, certainly, there is no need for adultery to ever happen even. As in Christ one would never want to commit that sin either.

As for marrying someone whom was once married before, each situation is different and needs to be considered carefully. Often is because of adultery that people are divorced. But, they should be spiritually free and it is better not to marry if there is question.

The reasons God gives us to strengthen faithfully our marriages are very important. The sin causes breaking of bonds and hearts. There is no blessing of sin.

The generation question, well, I certainly hope that is not true as you asked. I know many who love the Lord and have kept their marriages clean before Him all of their lives and are happy in Christ and each other.

In Scripture we see that it says that God hated the Nicoltines. Why? Because these were a people who continually gave excuses to make way to habitual sin and did not repent and draw near to God nor His ways. They had not love in them for God.

~~~

~~~

The Scriptures are certainly talking about not breaking marriage covenants between husband and wife, nor going about making or finding excuses to divorce and remarry and not to take away another's wife or husband. Unforgiveness and a hard heart is not Gods way for us to live, neither is fornication nor adultery. We aren't to be unfaithful people.

Real Godly love is different than the worlds ideas of love.

We know the apostles taught as Jesus did that to avoid fornication and adultery and avoid any sort of pornea. To avoid even the appearance of evil. He whom is faithful in little things is faithful in big things.

It was not God who said to divorce, it was God who hated divorce. It was Moses whom allowed it for adultery and said it was due to hardness of hearts. I think that hardness of heart is both prior to the sin in the heart of the adulterer and afterwards, too, in the injured parties heart.

~~~

We serve a Faithful Creator and He calls us to be faithful people.

~~~

Lastly, the title you have, I must say,"NO. No church that is of Christ is going to promote that"! Certainly they are speaking to a generation that are seeing the pressure of fornication and trying to prevent it.

Sometimes I feel like I'm casting too much of my pearls. Not to sound too cheesy and foul things up, we should agree to disagree. Your logic and mines differ.

What on earth? Are you calling Elkie swine? She is one of the finest christian women I've met. Such a shame that discussions can quickly lead to personal remarks like this.

As for the OP, no real church will promote adultery. I agree that a non-virgin has their sins paid for by the blood and it does not prevent remarriage or marriage. As for people re-marrying, I guess that is on a case by case basis depending on whether they divorced for the right reasons to start with.

[Hunterpoet]

I agree with Andy, your response to Elkie was totally uncalled for. As to your pearls of wisdom, I didn't see you cast any.

I saw that you quoted the scriptures, spoken by Our Lord, but no pearls from you. I see that you asked several questions, but again, saw no pearls of wisdom from you. Unless of course you feel the statement " Food for thought" or your questions qualify as pearls.

I think you owe Elkie a public apology.

[OneLight]

Sometimes I feel like I'm casting too much of my pearls. Not to sound too cheesy and foul things up, we should agree to disagree. Your logic and mines differ.

LOL ... What pearls? Your pockets are empty in this thread. All you did was ask four questions, give two verses and made a statement.

I will say that your statement made to Elkie swells with pride and vanity.

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

NO, WE ARE A GENERATION OF GRACE

A generation of GRACE indeed!

God truly is just God; even if we can't see it; even when we don't understand.

However, I believe that God is not as hard on us as we are on ourselves.

He deals with us individually, and He deals with each situation on a case by case basis.

I believe that's why it is called a "personal" relationship.

That's just my two cents.

[elkieDannsa' Air An Drochaid]

elk's

Good that they are giving sermons to keep clean from fornication, then perhaps people may understand the reasons for remaining virgins until married and that all of Gods ways bring us closer to Him and give us better relationships in life. Waiting until marriage can strengthen a marriage.

One can marry a person whom is not a virgin, as in Christ we are a new creature and the past is forgotten and healed and we look to both the present walk in the Lord and to the future in Christ. Keeping Christ our focus, not our pasts. So, no, it is not sin to marry someone whom is not a virgin when you met them. It is simply they had sin in their past. Just as there is other sin. I don't think people should make light of anything about any of it nor should they walk looking backwards at their lives either.

The commandments the Lord ask us to keep, He also helps us to keep in obedience and strengthening and understanding in the Holy Spirit's help, our Helper from Christ..

Adultery is serious also and I hope that people reason about their situations in marriage that even adultery can be forgiven and healed in Christ.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife has long been taught. However, we don't need to live in a disposable society's values and toss out a mate over it when God can heal it either. But, certainly, there is no need for adultery to ever happen even. As in Christ one would never want to commit that sin either.

As for marrying someone whom was once married before, each situation is different and needs to be considered carefully. Often is because of adultery that people are divorced. But, they should be spiritually free and it is better not to marry if there is question.

The reasons God gives us to strengthen faithfully our marriages are very important. The sin causes breaking of bonds and hearts. There is no blessing of sin.

The generation question, well, I certainly hope that is not true as you asked. I know many who love the Lord and have kept their marriages clean before Him all of their lives and are happy in Christ and each other.

In Scripture we see that it says that God hated the Nicoltines. Why? Because these were a people who continually gave excuses to make way to habitual sin and did not repent and draw near to God nor His ways. They had not love in them for God.

~~~

~~~

The Scriptures are certainly talking about not breaking marriage covenants between husband and wife, nor going about making or finding excuses to divorce and remarry and not to take away another's wife or husband. Unforgiveness and a hard heart is not Gods way for us to live, neither is fornication nor adultery. We aren't to be unfaithful people.

Real Godly love is different than the worlds ideas of love.

We know the apostles taught as Jesus did that to avoid fornication and adultery and avoid any sort of pornea. To avoid even the appearance of evil. He whom is faithful in little things is faithful in big things.

It was not God who said to divorce, it was God who hated divorce. It was Moses whom allowed it for adultery and said it was due to hardness of hearts. I think that hardness of heart is both prior to the sin in the heart of the adulterer and afterwards, too, in the injured parties heart.

~~~

We serve a Faithful Creator and He calls us to be faithful people.

~~~

Lastly, the title you have, I must say,"NO. No church that is of Christ is going to promote that"! Certainly they are speaking to a generation that are seeing the pressure of fornication and trying to prevent it.

Sometimes I feel like I'm casting too much of my pearls. Not to sound too cheesy and foul things up, we should agree to disagree. Your logic and mines differ.

Dear precepts,

I am not going by my logic alone nor my feelings alone. I am going simply by Scripture Teaching.

I was making a sincere effort to answer your question here. If you ask a question then be ready someone might answer it. If it is a statement against Christian Church then it should of not been couched as a question, if that was it and not wanting it answered by Scripture or Christians. after all. Although I am not going to worry which it is now.

Concerning discussion or debate: always discuss the subject at hand and not attack anyone personally is the proper rule for any time and any place.

Concerning logic: Let us reason. If something is said, it does not necessarily imply nor infer that something else was not said. Example; if I say I went to the store, it does not mean I never went anywhere else, like maybe the park. It simply means I did go to the store and does not rule out the latter. Same in sermons against fornication, it is stating that fornication is wrong, that does not state that adultery is encouraged at all, it is saying fornication is wrong. To state it means other wise is called "exegesis" (in Scriptural study) , simply put or meaning; to say it says something or read into something that is does not /has not said or stated. Another rule in Scripture is (and always has been) that "Scripture interprets Scripture". So, not to take Scripture alone verse by verse. But, to take in the whole of the matter and seeing that all Scripture must be backed by other Scripture. It seem that it may apply to a sermon in this situation, too. If there is a sermon against fornication ; it should be supported by Biblical Scriptures concerning fornication and it would not exclude adultery either as in the New Testament the Greek word porneia, is involved concerning of sexual sins such as fornication or adultery also indicating that " porneia " in these Matthean passages refers to an impermissible quasi-marital relationship more formal than casual fornication. (one must divorce a concubine, not a wife) .

I think anyway we do all get the idea and understand that to lust in one's heart for ones we are not married to or to commit this fornication or adultery in any way is certainly not of God. If I was not happy to hear a sermon against fornication I would ask myself why and search my heart of hearts because it is of God to speak against it.

It was never about you or about me. It is only about Christ. It is between you and God and me and God in the end. It never was between you and me anyway.

As for me now, I have taken out time for this and I don't wish to further it any longer.

peace,

elkie

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

Dear precepts,

It was never about you or about me. It is only about Christ. It is between you and God and me and God in the end. It never was between you and me anyway.

As for me now, I have taken out time for this and I don't wish to further it any longer.

peace,

elkie