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Who was Satan, I know he masquerades as a angel of light, stated in 2 cor 11:14.

But what position did he hold in heaven? Where is it in the bible?

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

He was the angel Lucifer. Does that help?

Blessings

Isaiah 14:12...Matthew Poole's commentary,

O Lucifer; which properly is a bright and eminent star, which ushers in the sun and the morning, but here is metaphorically taken for the high and mighty King of Babylon........

Some understand this place of the devil, to whom indeed it may be mystically applied, but as he is never called this name in scripture so it cannot be literally meant of him, but the King of Babylon, as is undeniably evident from the whole context......

Grace and Peace

Grace to you,

While this is true some expositors feel that these examples are an alliteration referring both to the Kings of Babylon and Tyre and satan himself. Some expositors also feel that the examples set forth do not describe a King of Babylon or Tyre who has yet existed but who will be the anti-christ who will be the head of a Kingdom that will rival the Kingdoms of Tyre and Babylon in their heyday. In other words, yet another alliterary phrase. :whistling: The anti-christ is a man inhabited by satans person thus he is indeed lucifer personified.

Peace,

Dave

4 scriptures in the NT use the term antichrist, yet none ascribe this term to a single individual. Are the scriptures clear that this antichrist is a man?

The name Lucifer is only found once. The name devil and satan are used numerous times. Why would the name lucifer not be applied to him elsewhere in scripture. For example as in 1Peter5:8 or in 1Chronicles21:1.

I hesitate to think of satan as a" bright morning star" or" the bringer of light".

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Who was Satan, I know he masquerades as a angel of light, stated in 2 cor 11:14.

But what position did he hold in heaven? Where is it in the bible?

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

He was the angel Lucifer. Does that help?

Blessings

Isaiah 14:12...Matthew Poole's commentary,

O Lucifer; which properly is a bright and eminent star, which ushers in the sun and the morning, but here is metaphorically taken for the high and mighty King of Babylon........

Some understand this place of the devil, to whom indeed it may be mystically applied, but as he is never called this name in scripture so it cannot be literally meant of him, but the King of Babylon, as is undeniably evident from the whole context......

Grace and Peace

Grace to you,

While this is true some expositors feel that these examples are an alliteration referring both to the Kings of Babylon and Tyre and satan himself. Some expositors also feel that the examples set forth do not describe a King of Babylon or Tyre who has yet existed but who will be the anti-christ who will be the head of a Kingdom that will rival the Kingdoms of Tyre and Babylon in their heyday. In other words, yet another alliterary phrase. :whistling: The anti-christ is a man inhabited by satans person thus he is indeed lucifer personified.

Peace,

Dave

4 scriptures in the NT use the term antichrist, yet none ascribe this term to a single individual. Are the scriptures clear that this antichrist is a man?

The name Lucifer is only found once. The name devil and satan are used numerous times. Why would the name lucifer not be applied to him elsewhere in scripture. For example as in 1Peter5:8 or in 1Chronicles21:1.

I hesitate to think of satan as a" bright morning star" or" the bringer of light".

Poet,

The anti-christ is well defined in Scripture;

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Who was Satan, I know he masquerades as a angel of light, stated in 2 cor 11:14.

But what position did he hold in heaven? Where is it in the bible?

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

He was the angel Lucifer. Does that help?

Blessings

Isaiah 14:12...Matthew Poole's commentary,

O Lucifer; which properly is a bright and eminent star, which ushers in the sun and the morning, but here is metaphorically taken for the high and mighty King of Babylon........

Some understand this place of the devil, to whom indeed it may be mystically applied, but as he is never called this name in scripture so it cannot be literally meant of him, but the King of Babylon, as is undeniably evident from the whole context......

Grace and Peace

Grace to you,

While this is true some expositors feel that these examples are an alliteration referring both to the Kings of Babylon and Tyre and satan himself. Some expositors also feel that the examples set forth do not describe a King of Babylon or Tyre who has yet existed but who will be the anti-christ who will be the head of a Kingdom that will rival the Kingdoms of Tyre and Babylon in their heyday. In other words, yet another alliterary phrase. :laugh: The anti-christ is a man inhabited by satans person thus he is indeed lucifer personified.

Peace,

Dave

4 scriptures in the NT use the term antichrist, yet none ascribe this term to a single individual. Are the scriptures clear that this antichrist is a man?

The name Lucifer is only found once. The name devil and satan are used numerous times. Why would the name lucifer not be applied to him elsewhere in scripture. For example as in 1Peter5:8 or in 1Chronicles21:1.

I hesitate to think of satan as a" bright morning star" or" the bringer of light".

Poet,

The anti-christ is well defined in Scripture;

1Jo


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Who was Satan, I know he masquerades as a angel of light, stated in 2 cor 11:14.

But what position did he hold in heaven? Where is it in the bible?

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

He was the angel Lucifer. Does that help?

Blessings

Isaiah 14:12...Matthew Poole's commentary,

O Lucifer; which properly is a bright and eminent star, which ushers in the sun and the morning, but here is metaphorically taken for the high and mighty King of Babylon........

Some understand this place of the devil, to whom indeed it may be mystically applied, but as he is never called this name in scripture so it cannot be literally meant of him, but the King of Babylon, as is undeniably evident from the whole context......

Grace and Peace

Grace to you,

While this is true some expositors feel that these examples are an alliteration referring both to the Kings of Babylon and Tyre and satan himself. Some expositors also feel that the examples set forth do not describe a King of Babylon or Tyre who has yet existed but who will be the anti-christ who will be the head of a Kingdom that will rival the Kingdoms of Tyre and Babylon in their heyday. In other words, yet another alliterary phrase. :laugh: The anti-christ is a man inhabited by satans person thus he is indeed lucifer personified.

Peace,

Dave

4 scriptures in the NT use the term antichrist, yet none ascribe this term to a single individual. Are the scriptures clear that this antichrist is a man?

The name Lucifer is only found once. The name devil and satan are used numerous times. Why would the name lucifer not be applied to him elsewhere in scripture. For example as in 1Peter5:8 or in 1Chronicles21:1.

I hesitate to think of satan as a" bright morning star" or" the bringer of light".

Poet,

The anti-christ is well defined in Scripture;

1Jo


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Who was Satan, I know he masquerades as a angel of light, stated in 2 cor 11:14.

But what position did he hold in heaven? Where is it in the bible?

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

He was the angel Lucifer. Does that help?

Blessings

Isaiah 14:12...Matthew Poole's commentary,

O Lucifer; which properly is a bright and eminent star, which ushers in the sun and the morning, but here is metaphorically taken for the high and mighty King of Babylon........

Some understand this place of the devil, to whom indeed it may be mystically applied, but as he is never called this name in scripture so it cannot be literally meant of him, but the King of Babylon, as is undeniably evident from the whole context......

Grace and Peace

Grace to you,

While this is true some expositors feel that these examples are an alliteration referring both to the Kings of Babylon and Tyre and satan himself. Some expositors also feel that the examples set forth do not describe a King of Babylon or Tyre who has yet existed but who will be the anti-christ who will be the head of a Kingdom that will rival the Kingdoms of Tyre and Babylon in their heyday. In other words, yet another alliterary phrase. :noidea: The anti-christ is a man inhabited by satans person thus he is indeed lucifer personified.

Peace,

Dave

4 scriptures in the NT use the term antichrist, yet none ascribe this term to a single individual. Are the scriptures clear that this antichrist is a man?

The name Lucifer is only found once. The name devil and satan are used numerous times. Why would the name lucifer not be applied to him elsewhere in scripture. For example as in 1Peter5:8 or in 1Chronicles21:1.

I hesitate to think of satan as a" bright morning star" or" the bringer of light".

Poet,

The anti-christ is well defined in Scripture;

1Jo


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Who was Satan, I know he masquerades as a angel of light, stated in 2 cor 11:14.

But what position did he hold in heaven? Where is it in the bible?

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

He was the angel Lucifer. Does that help?

Blessings

Isaiah 14:12...Matthew Poole's commentary,

O Lucifer; which properly is a bright and eminent star, which ushers in the sun and the morning, but here is metaphorically taken for the high and mighty King of Babylon........

Some understand this place of the devil, to whom indeed it may be mystically applied, but as he is never called this name in scripture so it cannot be literally meant of him, but the King of Babylon, as is undeniably evident from the whole context......

Grace and Peace

Grace to you,

While this is true some expositors feel that these examples are an alliteration referring both to the Kings of Babylon and Tyre and satan himself. Some expositors also feel that the examples set forth do not describe a King of Babylon or Tyre who has yet existed but who will be the anti-christ who will be the head of a Kingdom that will rival the Kingdoms of Tyre and Babylon in their heyday. In other words, yet another alliterary phrase. :rolleyes: The anti-christ is a man inhabited by satans person thus he is indeed lucifer personified.

Peace,

Dave

4 scriptures in the NT use the term antichrist, yet none ascribe this term to a single individual. Are the scriptures clear that this antichrist is a man?

The name Lucifer is only found once. The name devil and satan are used numerous times. Why would the name lucifer not be applied to him elsewhere in scripture. For example as in 1Peter5:8 or in 1Chronicles21:1.

I hesitate to think of satan as a" bright morning star" or" the bringer of light".

Aahhhh, but he actually was the bringer of light. He certainly enlightened Adam and Eve, and that according to the old Babylonian Mystery Religon is where he gets that title. Problem is that enlightenment really was not a good thing in Gods Eyes....... or was it?

Do you realize that we will judge the Angels..... and it was Satan/Lucifer himself that is responsible for us having the knowledge to do so.... I've always found that rather fascinating..... almost poetic justice. God is sooooo cool.

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Please allow me to introduce myself

Im a man of wealth and taste

Ive been around for a long, long year

Stole many a mans soul and faith

And I was round when Jesus Christ

Had his moment of doubt and pain

Made darn sure that Pilate

Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Pleased to meet you

Hope you guess my name

But whats puzzling you

Is the nature of my game

I stuck around St. Petersburg

When I saw it was a time for a change

Killed the czar and his ministers

Anastasia screamed in vain

I rode a tank

Held a generals rank

When the blitzkrieg raged

And the bodies stank

Pleased to meet you

Hope you guess my name, oh yeah

Ah, whats puzzling you

Is the nature of my game, oh yeah

I watched with glee

While your kings and queens

Fought for ten decades

For the gods they made

I shouted out,

Who killed the Kennedys?

When after all

It was you and me

Let me please introduce myself

I'm a man of wealth and taste

And I laid traps for troubadours

Who get killed before they reached Bombay

Pleased to meet you

Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah

But whats puzzling you

Is the nature of my game, oh yeah, get down, baby

Pleased to meet you

Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah

But whats confusing you

Is just the nature of my game

Just as every cop is a criminal

And all the sinners saints

As heads is tails

Just call me Lucifer

cause I'm in need of some restraint

So if you meet me

Have some courtesy

Have some sympathy, and some taste

Use all your well-learned politesse

Or I'll lay your soul to waste, um yeah

Pleased to meet you

Hope you guessed my name, um yeah

But whats puzzling you

Is the nature of my game, um mean it, get down

Woo, who

Oh yeah, get on down

Oh yeah

Oh yeah!

Tell me baby, whats my name

Tell me honey, can ya guess my name

Tell me baby, whats my name

I tell you one time, you're to blame

Ooo, who

Ooo, who

Ooo, who

Ooo, who, who

Ooo, who, who

Ooo, who, who

Ooo, who, who

Oh, yeah

Whats me name

Tell me, baby, whats my name

Tell me, sweetie, whats my name

Ooo, who, who

Ooo, who, who

Ooo, who, who

Ooo, who, who

Ooo, who, who

Ooo, who, who

Ooo, who, who

Oh, yeah

Rolling Stones "Sympathy for the Devil"

Keith Green No One Believes In Me Anymore lyrics

Oh, my job keeps getting easier

As time keeps slipping away

I can imitate your brightest light

And make your night look just like day

I put some truth in every lie

To tickle itching ears

You know I'm drawing people just like flies

'Cause they like what they hear

I'm gaining power by the hour

they're falling by the score

You know, it's getting very simple now

'Cause no one believe in me anymore

Oh, heaven's just a state of mind

My books read on your shelf

And have you heard that God is dead

I made that one up myself

They dabble in magic spells

They get their fortunes read

You know they heard the truth

But turned away and followed me instead

I used to have to sneak around

But now they just open their doors

You know, no ones watching for my tricks

Because no one believes in me anymore

Everyone likes a winner

With my help, you're guaranteed to win

And hey man, you're ain't no sinner

You've got the truth within

And as your life slips by

You believe the lie that you did it on your own

But don't worry

I'll be there to help you share our dark eternal home

Oh, my job keeps getting easier

As day slips into day

The magazines, the newspapers

Print every word I say

This world is just my spinning top

It's all like childs-play

You know, I dream that it will never stop

But I know it's not that way

Still my work goes on and on

Always stronger than before

I'm gonna make it dark before the dawn

Since no one believes in me anymore

Well now I used to have to sneak around

But now they just open their doors

You know, no one watches for my tricks

Since no one believes in me anymore

Well I'm gaining power by the hour

They're falling by the score

You know, it's getting very easy now

Since no one believes in me anymore

No one believes in me anymore

No one believe in me anymore


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Keith Green :unsure:

So true!

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.... Who was Satan ....

Today

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44

And Tomorrow

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Revelation 29:7-10

And All The Saints Said Hallelujah!

And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever. Revelation 5:11-14


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i could not find a passage to correlate unfortunatly but i remeber reading somewhere that Lucifer's job was to gather glory for God until he got too big for his briches and tried to steal the glory for himself.

One can't gather glory for the One that has all glory.

He walked with God that the glory of God was literally reflecting off him (Satan).

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