George Fox

[Guest LadyC]

Why are you putting words in my mouth about homosexuals? I am not even talking about homosexuals or people who kill children etc. Please keep focused.

you have been asked at least 15 times about these things, and you have never once answerd the questions, perhaps it is you that needs to focus.

If this is all about love, and nothing else matters, which is what you have said, then as long as the homosexuals are in love, they are good to go and in God's will, the heck with that silly written word.

As long as the lady killed her kids out of love to keep them safe, then she was in God's will, according to what you have said in this thread.

If you want to talk about ladies killing their kids and homosexuals start another thread.

you are working very hard to avoid having to back up anything you have said with scripture. we're not going to start another thread. YOU said that if the voice we hear is love, then it's of God. so how do you reconcile these acts with God's character?

[Seeker100]

If you want to talk about ladies killing their kids and homosexuals start another thread.

you are the one that said all that matters is love and what your inner voice says to you.

but you wont address these things?

why is that, even though they are about love and listening to your inner voice.

God is their judge not me and not you.

so then, in your view, we have no real way to know if we are good or not till we die and meet God face to face?

if this is the case, how can you be sure, or even hopeful, that your inner voice is the right one and theirs is wrong? They have just as much love as you.

You certainly love to be argumentative about nothing. If a lady kills her kids I would say with my understanding that that is against God. That is not love. The judgement of hte action however is between God and her. Perhaps there is insanity I don't know and neither do you.

[Guest LadyC]

If you want to talk about ladies killing their kids and homosexuals start another thread.

you are the one that said all that matters is love and what your inner voice says to you.

but you wont address these things?

why is that, even though they are about love and listening to your inner voice.

God is their judge not me and not you.

that's easy for you to say.... it completely relieves you of the responsibility for your own words, doesn't it?

ok, i really am going back to my housework, at least for a bit. dave is trying hard to reason with seeker, and i'm gonna step out of his way and wish him the best of luck.

[CBE1]

Why are you putting words in my mouth about homosexuals? I am not even talking about homosexuals or people who kill children etc. Please keep focused.

you have been asked at least 15 times about these things, and you have never once answerd the questions, perhaps it is you that needs to focus.

If this is all about love, and nothing else matters, which is what you have said, then as long as the homosexuals are in love, they are good to go and in God's will, the heck with that silly written word.

As long as the lady killed her kids out of love to keep them safe, then she was in God's will, according to what you have said in this thread.

Can you have love without God?

And does God tell others to kill there kids?

Isn't the problem in that we are not actually listening to the Lord?

[Seeker100]

Why are you putting words in my mouth about homosexuals? I am not even talking about homosexuals or people who kill children etc. Please keep focused.

you have been asked at least 15 times about these things, and you have never once answerd the questions, perhaps it is you that needs to focus.

If this is all about love, and nothing else matters, which is what you have said, then as long as the homosexuals are in love, they are good to go and in God's will, the heck with that silly written word.

As long as the lady killed her kids out of love to keep them safe, then she was in God's will, according to what you have said in this thread.

If you want to talk about ladies killing their kids and homosexuals start another thread.

you are working very hard to avoid having to back up anything you have said with scripture. we're not going to start another thread. YOU said that if the voice we hear is love, then it's of God. so how do you reconcile these acts with God's character?

Well perhaps they are not God's character. What is that to me. My responsibility is to obey God in my life. Others are responsible for theirs.

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[Guest LadyC]

Why are you putting words in my mouth about homosexuals? I am not even talking about homosexuals or people who kill children etc. Please keep focused.

you have been asked at least 15 times about these things, and you have never once answerd the questions, perhaps it is you that needs to focus.

If this is all about love, and nothing else matters, which is what you have said, then as long as the homosexuals are in love, they are good to go and in God's will, the heck with that silly written word.

As long as the lady killed her kids out of love to keep them safe, then she was in God's will, according to what you have said in this thread.

If you want to talk about ladies killing their kids and homosexuals start another thread.

you are working very hard to avoid having to back up anything you have said with scripture. we're not going to start another thread. YOU said that if the voice we hear is love, then it's of God. so how do you reconcile these acts with God's character?

Well perhaps they are not God's character. What is that to me. My responsibility is to obey God in my life. Others are responsible for theirs.

what is it to you??????????

YOU said that if they heard the inner voice of love, then it was God's voice! their actions were the direct result of them believing to have acted not only out of love, but in accordance with God's will!

ANSWER THE QUESTION! how can one discern that it is truly God's voice they are hearing? by what yardstick do they measure right from wrong?

someone remind me to go finish my housework, i'm making a liar out of myself now every second i stay on this thread.

[Seeker100]

Why are you putting words in my mouth about homosexuals? I am not even talking about homosexuals or people who kill children etc. Please keep focused.

you have been asked at least 15 times about these things, and you have never once answerd the questions, perhaps it is you that needs to focus.

If this is all about love, and nothing else matters, which is what you have said, then as long as the homosexuals are in love, they are good to go and in God's will, the heck with that silly written word.

As long as the lady killed her kids out of love to keep them safe, then she was in God's will, according to what you have said in this thread.

If you want to talk about ladies killing their kids and homosexuals start another thread.

you are working very hard to avoid having to back up anything you have said with scripture. we're not going to start another thread. YOU said that if the voice we hear is love, then it's of God. so how do you reconcile these acts with God's character?

Well perhaps they are not God's character. What is that to me. My responsibility is to obey God in my life. Others are responsible for theirs.

what is it to you??????????

YOU said that if they heard the inner voice of love, then it was God's voice! their actions were the direct result of them believing to have acted not only out of love, but in accordance with God's will!

ANSWER THE QUESTION! how can one discern that it is truly God's voice they are hearing? by what yardstick do they measure right from wrong?

someone remind me to go finish my housework, i'm making a liar out of myself now every second i stay on this thread.

I never said that you are trying to twist things to get me to say that.

[Miss Elly]

Christians, by the very nature of being human, do sin - they repent and are forgiven, but they are not sinless...

and... every person we meet does NOT have the love of Jesus in them.... it would be lovely if they did - but they don't. Your comments sound so very new-age and can you provide Scripture that says everyone has Jesus in them?

I am not saying that everyone has the love of Jesus in them. I am saying you can meet Jesus in everyone even if they hate Jesus you can meet Jesus in them. This happens when we become born again. Becoming born again is mystical and is a gift from the Holy Ghost.

So - even if they HATE Jesus we can meet Jesus in them? Just how does that happen? You throw being born again out there but it has nothing to do with how people who HATE Jesus actually HAVE Jesus in them.... Did George Fox explain this?

Jesus is love. Jesus is love for other people. Say you meet your friend. You love him so much but he hates God because he wants to be rich and have as much money as possible. You still love him though as God loves him. When you love him you serve love which is God (Jesus). Thus you meet Jesus in him even if he hates God.

When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost comes and opens one's eyes to this. When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost loves others thorugh us. We see Jesus in them and they see Jesus in us.

This is regular Christianity.

Grace to you,

The Jesus you see in the other is not His Spirit but the fact that he/she is made in the image of God.

Do you agree?

Peace,

Dave

Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation; Neither shall they say, Lo here! or lo there! for behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Now the Pharisees were not believers, nor did they hear the words of God, at least so as they knew. And in another verse it is explained that they would not enter in, but here we see that Jesus Christ, our Lord, told them that the kingdom of God was within them. Is this not so, or how do you explain this verse?

Jesus was telling them that the Kingdom was already amidst them in His person and that the Kingdom does not come from Observation or practice but comes from within the born again heart.

This does not support that everyone including the nonbeliever has Jesus in them.

Peace,

Dave

When I am talking about Jesus being in everyone I am not talking of everyone obeying Jesus or eveyone being born again. I am explaining what sees when one becomes born again of the Spirit.

Funny.....I've never seen Jesus in any sinners. But I have seen, sensed and felt the demons of darkness in them. The demon possessed man in the bible certainly did not have Jesus in him, but had enough demons to destroy 2,000 pigs. After he was set free and delivered from the devils his mind was made whole. I'm getting concerned about you Seeker (sorry I called you my sister, I didn't realize you were male). I'm going to pray for you as I believe that you mean well, but are hopelessly in scriptural error. And I'm doing this in love....that's all that matters....right?

[Guest LadyC]

Why are you putting words in my mouth about homosexuals? I am not even talking about homosexuals or people who kill children etc. Please keep focused.

you have been asked at least 15 times about these things, and you have never once answerd the questions, perhaps it is you that needs to focus.

If this is all about love, and nothing else matters, which is what you have said, then as long as the homosexuals are in love, they are good to go and in God's will, the heck with that silly written word.

As long as the lady killed her kids out of love to keep them safe, then she was in God's will, according to what you have said in this thread.

If you want to talk about ladies killing their kids and homosexuals start another thread.

you are working very hard to avoid having to back up anything you have said with scripture. we're not going to start another thread. YOU said that if the voice we hear is love, then it's of God. so how do you reconcile these acts with God's character?

Well perhaps they are not God's character. What is that to me. My responsibility is to obey God in my life. Others are responsible for theirs.

what is it to you??????????

YOU said that if they heard the inner voice of love, then it was God's voice! their actions were the direct result of them believing to have acted not only out of love, but in accordance with God's will!

ANSWER THE QUESTION! how can one discern that it is truly God's voice they are hearing? by what yardstick do they measure right from wrong?

someone remind me to go finish my housework, i'm making a liar out of myself now every second i stay on this thread.

I never said that you are trying to twist things to get me to say that.

would you like me to quote you?

RG, please quote him for me, i really must do my housework. i promised myself i'd be finished by 6, and that's less than 2 hours from now.