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Christians, by the very nature of being human, do sin - they repent and are forgiven, but they are not sinless...

and... every person we meet does NOT have the love of Jesus in them.... it would be lovely if they did - but they don't. Your comments sound so very new-age and can you provide Scripture that says everyone has Jesus in them? :thumbsup:

I am not saying that everyone has the love of Jesus in them. I am saying you can meet Jesus in everyone even if they hate Jesus you can meet Jesus in them. This happens when we become born again. Becoming born again is mystical and is a gift from the Holy Ghost.

So - even if they HATE Jesus we can meet Jesus in them? Just how does that happen? You throw being born again out there but it has nothing to do with how people who HATE Jesus actually HAVE Jesus in them.... Did George Fox explain this?

Jesus is love. Jesus is love for other people. Say you meet your friend. You love him so much but he hates God because he wants to be rich and have as much money as possible. You still love him though as God loves him. When you love him you serve love which is God (Jesus). Thus you meet Jesus in him even if he hates God.

When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost comes and opens one's eyes to this. When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost loves others thorugh us. We see Jesus in them and they see Jesus in us.

This is regular Christianity.

Grace to you,

The Jesus you see in the other is not His Spirit but the fact that he/she is made in the image of God.

Do you agree?

Peace,

Dave

Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation; Neither shall they say, Lo here! or lo there! for behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Now the Pharisees were not believers, nor did they hear the words of God, at least so as they knew. And in another verse it is explained that they would not enter in, but here we see that Jesus Christ, our Lord, told them that the kingdom of God was within them. Is this not so, or how do you explain this verse?

Jesus was telling them that the Kingdom was already amidst them in His person and that the Kingdom does not come from Observation or practice but comes from within the born again heart.

This does not support that everyone including the nonbeliever has Jesus in them. :noidea:

Peace,

Dave

When I am talking about Jesus being in everyone I am not talking of everyone obeying Jesus or eveyone being born again. I am explaining what sees when one becomes born again of the Spirit.

Funny.....I've never seen Jesus in any sinners. But I have seen, sensed and felt the demons of darkness in them. The demon possessed man in the bible certainly did not have Jesus in him, but had enough demons to destroy 2,000 pigs. After he was set free and delivered from the devils his mind was made whole. I'm getting concerned about you Seeker (sorry I called you my sister, I didn't realize you were male). I'm going to pray for you as I believe that you mean well, but are hopelessly in scriptural error. And I'm doing this in love....that's all that matters....right?

Do you love sinners? Do you care for them? Do you love those that are bad to you? Jesus is the love for these people. Serve it and see if you see Jesus.

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no, forget it. well don't, either way it's ok. but the quotes aren't even necessary.

seeker, i insist that you answer the questions. if i have truly "twisted your words" then your answer will clarify exactly what you meant for all to see.

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good grief.

it's Jesus in US that allows us to love the unlovable.. it is NOT Jesus in the unbeliever, because Jesus is not IN the unbeliever.


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good grief.

it's Jesus in US that allows us to love the unlovable.. it is NOT Jesus in the unbeliever, because Jesus is not IN the unbeliever.

Right on, sista! :noidea:


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someone remind me to go finish my housework, i'm making a liar out of myself now every second i stay on this thread.

Go finish your housework, Lady C! You will be completely re-energized once you're finished. :noidea:


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good grief.

it's Jesus in US that allows us to love the unlovable.. it is NOT Jesus in the unbeliever, because Jesus is not IN the unbeliever.

When you found Jesus, wasn't it inside you?


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good grief.

it's Jesus in US that allows us to love the unlovable.. it is NOT Jesus in the unbeliever, because Jesus is not IN the unbeliever.

Exactly; it's the absence of acknowledgment of, and a relationship with, Jesus that makes them an unbeliever.

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good grief.

it's Jesus in US that allows us to love the unlovable.. it is NOT Jesus in the unbeliever, because Jesus is not IN the unbeliever.

When you found Jesus, wasn't it inside you?

wasn't "it" inside me? what is "it"?

Jesus is not in the unbeliever. please tell me you don't think otherwise.


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