What does it mean?

[Permie]

Yes, the breath is in the blood. Life is in the blood as scripture tells us. The mother maintains two souls and the baby's spirit is totally dependent upon the mother's spirit during this time and cannot exist apart/separate from the life that the mother has, or by proxy if necessary... i.e. machines for premies, until it takes it's first breath. Whereby giving it's own blood life-oxygen through their own intake of breath.

Uh....what?

Do you believe that the soul is the blood, or something?

LOL, no. Did you miss OneLight's post above? Life is in the blood, which is scriptural.

Babies do not share the same blood as the mother. They have their own supply and produce their own blood cells.

From an online source:

The placenta is responsible for working as a trading post between the mother's and the baby's blood supply. Small blood vessels carrying the fetal blood run through the placenta, which is full of maternal blood. Nutrients and oxygen from the mother's blood are transferred to the fetal blood, while waste products are transferred from the fetal blood to the maternal blood, without the two blood supplies mixing.

The umbilical cord is the life-line that attaches the placenta to the fetus. The umbilical cord is made up of three blood vessels: two smaller arteries which carry blood to the placenta and a larger vein which returns blood to the fetus.

How can you say that the mother "maintains two souls." I don't get it.

If you wish to believe that the unborn child has no soul, that is your right to believe that. I personally believe the unborn child does have a soul and due to that the mother has two souls to care for while she is pregnant.

I know that was addressed to Ovedya but all I can say is 'What'? No one said a fetus doesn't have a soul; of course they do. Permie, you don't seem to comprehend anything except your own words. That isn't conducive to learning and growing in the Lord.

How is it not known that the mother is maintaining two souls!? We have brains! Let's figure some things out... think first a bit. Is that too hard?

Am I being baited with intentionally "playing stupid" questions so that when I answer I can then be attacked for the what should be an OBVIOUS answer?

[Permie]

The topic is being lost with this siderail... thank you, OneLight.

OneLight,

What was your purpose for bringing up the baby in the womb?

[Permie]

Here... maybe this can be rephrased:

The unborn baby has a soul.

The mother has a soul.

With me? There's two souls.

The mother carries the unborn child, whom has a soul.

The mother still has her own soul.

Is she not maintaining two souls?

Maintaining: caring for, nurturing, etc...

If the mother doesn't care for herself (maintain herself), what happens to the baby?

[Permie]

This is an American, English speaking site isn't it?

[OneLight]

The topic is being lost with this siderail... thank you, OneLight.

OneLight,

What was your purpose for bringing up the baby in the womb?

Sorry it got sidetracked. This line started when discussing the breath of life ... post.

[MorningGlory]

How is it not known that the mother is maintaining two souls!? We have brains! Let's figure some things out... think first a bit. Is that too hard?

Am I being baited with intentionally "playing stupid" questions so that when I answer I can then be attacked for the what should be an OBVIOUS answer?

It appears to me that YOU are inferring that I'M stupid, Permie. The mother does not 'maintain two souls'; she maintains two bodies until the baby is born. Heck, we don't even 'maintain' our OWN soul. No one is baiting you; you appear to be taking offense where none was given. Because someone doesn't agree with everything you say is no reason to get all sideways.

[MorningGlory]

This is an American, English speaking site isn't it?

Sarcasm won't convince anyone of your views, Permie.

[nebula]

Here... maybe this can be rephrased:

The unborn baby has a soul.

The mother has a soul.

With me? There's two souls.

The mother carries the unborn child, whom has a soul.

The mother still has her own soul.

Is she not maintaining two souls?

Maintaining: caring for, nurturing, etc...

If the mother doesn't care for herself (maintain herself), what happens to the baby?

The question is whether or not we are dealing with semantics of expressions or actual concepts.

[Guest]

.... With that said, however, what is the spirit that God breathed into man causing him to become a living soul? ....

God

And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Galatians 4:6

God

The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. Job 33:3-4

God

By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. Psalms 33:6

God

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

In him was life; and the life was the light of men. John 1:1-4

God

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

Call On Him

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. Joel 2:32

And Know Peace

Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. John 14:27

Be Blessed Beloved

Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. Jeremiah 15:16

Love, Joe

>>>>>()<<<<<

But

I said, Days should speak, and multitude of years should teach wisdom.

But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

Great men are not always wise: neither do the aged understand judgment. Job 32:7-9

Some

The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple. Psalms 119:130

Are Blessed

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:3

Praise The Name Of Jesus!

[Permie]

Yes, the breath is in the blood. Life is in the blood as scripture tells us. The mother maintains two souls and the baby's spirit is totally dependent upon the mother's spirit during this time and cannot exist apart/separate from the life that the mother has, or by proxy if necessary... i.e. machines for premies, until it takes it's first breath. Whereby giving it's own blood life-oxygen through their own intake of breath.

Uh....what?

Do you believe that the soul is the blood, or something?

LOL, no. Did you miss OneLight's post above? Life is in the blood, which is scriptural.

Babies do not share the same blood as the mother. They have their own supply and produce their own blood cells.

From an online source:

The placenta is responsible for working as a trading post between the mother's and the baby's blood supply. Small blood vessels carrying the fetal blood run through the placenta, which is full of maternal blood. Nutrients and oxygen from the mother's blood are transferred to the fetal blood, while waste products are transferred from the fetal blood to the maternal blood, without the two blood supplies mixing.

The umbilical cord is the life-line that attaches the placenta to the fetus. The umbilical cord is made up of three blood vessels: two smaller arteries which carry blood to the placenta and a larger vein which returns blood to the fetus.

How can you say that the mother "maintains two souls." I don't get it.

If you wish to believe that the unborn child has no soul, that is your right to believe that. I personally believe the unborn child does have a soul and due to that the mother has two souls to care for while she is pregnant.

I know that was addressed to Ovedya but all I can say is 'What'? No one said a fetus doesn't have a soul; of course they do. Permie, you don't seem to comprehend anything except your own words. That isn't conducive to learning and growing in the Lord.

It appears to me that YOU are inferring that I'M stupid, Permie. The mother does not 'maintain two souls'; she maintains two bodies until the baby is born. Heck, we don't even 'maintain' our OWN soul. No one is baiting you; you appear to be taking offense where none was given. Because someone doesn't agree with everything you say is no reason to get all sideways.

Just what part of the above in red did you not comprehend? This is a matter of comprehension, not agreement. If you notice also in that statement, I said: if you wish to believe. Is that indicating that I desire agreement? This whole thread was started because I was told I was in error. I want that to be proven, if it is the truth.

I would think it only stands to reason that the two bodies that the mother is caring for also includes two souls. At least to me. That this detail escaped comprehension is nearly unbelievable!

I don't know if you are stupid or not. All I know is that not enough "attempt" at comprehending without also including biting, sniping, and cutting remarks is being made. You said: No one said a fetus doesn't have a soul; of course they do.

Yes, I would think that everyone would also know that too and would then understand the intentions of my words. But, no...

Instead it was: huh?, what?, got scripture?