How tolerant are we?

[JustinM]

Is this the rest of the story?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0810/AntiMuslim_attacker_works_at_proPark51_group.html

How deranged does someone have to be, to actually think this would help a cause? Evidently this person attacked the cab driver to try to garner sympathy for the muslim community, as the assailant is a member of a pro-WTC mosque organization.

[JustinM]

Another source:

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/08/what_we_know_about_michael_enright.php

[Jedi4Yahweh]

Actually, I believe this mosque is violating the First Amendment.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

Everything about this mosque is "respecting an establishment of religion."

Good point.

[wyguy]

If the true motives behind building this mosque was tolerance and mutual understanding, the location would not make any difference and moving it would not be an issue.

Right On!

[MorningGlory]

Actually, I believe this mosque is violating the First Amendment.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

Everything about this mosque is "respecting an establishment of religion."

Good point.

Not really; Congress is making no law here. This isn't about establishment of a religion; islam is already long established and is not sanctioned by the U.S. government. This is a state and local issue that involves the will of the people...pro or con.

[other one]

Actually, I believe this mosque is violating the First Amendment.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

Everything about this mosque is "respecting an establishment of religion."

Good point.

Not really; Congress is making no law here. This isn't about establishment of a religion; islam is already long established and is not sanctioned by the U.S. government. This is a state and local issue that involves the will of the people...pro or con.

Ha!..... how long has it been since the Federal Government gave a rat's hinny about the will of the people.

Or for that matter the State of New York, or even New York City...

[MorningGlory]

Actually, I believe this mosque is violating the First Amendment.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

Everything about this mosque is "respecting an establishment of religion."

Good point.

Not really; Congress is making no law here. This isn't about establishment of a religion; islam is already long established and is not sanctioned by the U.S. government. This is a state and local issue that involves the will of the people...pro or con.

Ha!..... how long has it been since the Federal Government gave a rat's hinny about the will of the people.

Or for that matter the State of New York, or even New York City...

I'll agree that they don't give one of those rat posteriors about the will of the people but......it's still not a 1st Amendment issue. It's a state and local issue.

[Burning_Ember]

Is this the rest of the story?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0810/AntiMuslim_attacker_works_at_proPark51_group.html

How deranged does someone have to be, to actually think this would help a cause? Evidently this person attacked the cab driver to try to garner sympathy for the muslim community, as the assailant is a member of a pro-WTC mosque organization.

Maybe he didn't think it would help that cause, and he had a completely different motive. If someone volunteers for an organization, that does not make them brain puppets of every belief and statement that organization has or will make.

From what I have discovered from my sources, he was somewhat mentally ill, and I have found no evidence to support that he is liberal. I've found statements saying otherwise though.. Public sources say that he was intoxicated. Mental illness and alcohol are like magnifying factors for prejudices. He just came back from making a documentary about Soldiers in Afghanistan, not a Documentary about Transgendered people or a Pro-Choice Documentary, Gaza, FOX News, things that filmmakers with liberal leanings actually make documentaries about.

You take someone who is allegedly mentally ill, liquor him up in an environment where a lot of unkind words get thrown around regarding Muslims, and he gets violent as a result? That there is a fire waiting to start, with a target, fuel, and matches. This is not the fault of conservatives or liberals, it is simply an obvious and unfortunate outcome.

[other one]

Actually, I believe this mosque is violating the First Amendment.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

Everything about this mosque is "respecting an establishment of religion."

Good point.

Not really; Congress is making no law here. This isn't about establishment of a religion; islam is already long established and is not sanctioned by the U.S. government. This is a state and local issue that involves the will of the people...pro or con.

Ha!..... how long has it been since the Federal Government gave a rat's hinny about the will of the people.

Or for that matter the State of New York, or even New York City...

I'll agree that they don't give one of those rat posteriors about the will of the people but......it's still not a 1st Amendment issue. It's a state and local issue.

I would agre that it's not a first ammendment situation. It's a tacky problem..... Actually its a rub your nose in the dirt because you can't stop me problem....... and in this day and time, that is about to get very very dangerous.

I don't know what the American people are like in the New York area, but I remember Oklahoma City when we learned John Doe #2 was a middle eastern person...... it was not good here for quite a few days. I really feared an outbreak of voilence. It seems to me that those pushing this mosque are pushing for the same chaos that "Imanutjob" says he wants. And we're getting closer and closer to giving it to them. The powers that be will turn the whole world into a nightmare when the time is right for them.

Thanks to our usage of thier oil, we've painted ourselves into a corner and I don't think we'll really have a choice but to fight for our very lives. What's really sad is the totally non necessaryiness of it all.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

Actually, I believe this mosque is violating the First Amendment.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

Everything about this mosque is "respecting an establishment of religion."

Good point.

Not really; Congress is making no law here. This isn't about establishment of a religion; islam is already long established and is not sanctioned by the U.S. government. This is a state and local issue that involves the will of the people...pro or con.

Yes, this is and should be a state and local issue but then why did Prez. Obama go public and supporting the establishment of a mosque. This is violating the 1st amendment. Liberals would say the same thing if President G.W. Bush went public and supported a church to be built near ground zero as a memorial of 911.

I agree with others this is more about Islam " extremist " rubbing 911 in the face of its victims just because it can. This mosque is being funded by terrorist organizations.