The Mosque at Ground Zero & Freedom of Religion

[nebula]

Ok, I am going to open a whole can of worms, but here goes.

Let me first say that I am in no way comparing Islam to Judaism.

__________ is a theocratic form of government who happens to believe in one God. It has its own laws and controls every facet if it's citizens lives

Would it not be accurate to fill in the blank above with Israel under the Mosaic Law?

Modern Judaism is not exactly the same religion as Israel under Mosaic Law.

And no one is trying to promote or establish ancient Israel's religion-theocracy in America.

[veegal]

Yeshua is not a religion, He is truth and a loving savior, He doesn't want a Religion, He wants an intimate relationship with us, You cannot force someone to come to know Him, it has to be willing and from the Heart, therefore we need freedom of religion for people to freely chose Him, but there needs to be restrictions that look out for the well being of others.

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I don't live in America but I know that if 9/11 had happened here I would also be totally opposed to the building of a mosque close to the site. It is disrespectful IMHO. Whilst I do agree that all Muslims are not to blame for the acts of a few, this is a matter of principle and should not be allowed.

[~candice~]

Hi

Freedom of Religion is a topic I discussed in chat. I am interested in what people here think of the issue. I believe it's a very important issue as well, and one that needs to be discussed.

Building a Mosque at ground zero is an offense and should not be allowed. As far as freedom of religion, I believe the we should have freedom of religion, but religious tolerance I have noticed is becoming an excuse to persecute Christianity while promoting everything contrary.

Now with Islam, They believe in Sheria law, which is the only way that Islam can grow to it's full extent, Sharia law is a governmental law that guides their religion, their religion is not complete to them unless this law is in place, and they will consistently distort, and alter our law until it fits theirs . Problem with this law, is that to be a different faith you have to pay taxes to support them. Christians, Jews should die in the manner of being beheaded, Their law supports rape and murder of infidel woman. There is no forgiveness. Also turning away from Islam is also penalty of death. As Chelsea said.

Yeshua is not a religion, He is truth and a loving savior, He doesn't want a Religion, He wants an intimate relationship with us, You cannot force someone to come to know Him, it has to be willing and from the Heart, therefore we need freedom of religion for people to freely chose Him, but there needs to be restrictions that look out for the well being of others.

Truth. There are only 2 kingdoms, 2 sides, Darkness and light, truth and lies. Which kingdom do you stand for?

I think it is dangerous territory to deny the building of the mosque because it is offensive. Many things that exist are offensive to others and yet allowed. Strip clubs and adult stores, for example. The denial of building permit was because of the building laws, wasn't it? Not because of some "offensive" rationale?

Christianity is offensive to those unsaved. If we want "offensive" to be a reason for denying the permit, be well prepared for that to come back and bite us on home turf.

[ayin jade]

I think it is dangerous territory to deny the building of the mosque because it is offensive. Many things that exist are offensive to others and yet allowed. Strip clubs and adult stores, for example. The denial of building permit was because of the building laws, wasn't it? Not because of some "offensive" rationale?

Christianity is offensive to those unsaved. If we want "offensive" to be a reason for denying the permit, be well prepared for that to come back and bite us on home turf.

Many of those buildings you cited are often denied building permits if it is close to schools etc. Cities have the right to refuse building permits to any business or religious group. Since no one is guaranteed the right to build whatever they want whereever they want, then I see nothing wrong with denying this mosque being built when it is so clearly offensive to most of the population.

[ayin jade]

Why do people keep saying that the mosque is to be at ground zero?

Because it is being built at a site of a building that was destroyed in 9/11 when part of the aircraft landed on it. It may not be at the exact location of the twin towers, but it was part of the carnage of 9/11 and is therefor "ground zero".

[georgedrw81]

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[~candice~]

I think it is dangerous territory to deny the building of the mosque because it is offensive. Many things that exist are offensive to others and yet allowed. Strip clubs and adult stores, for example. The denial of building permit was because of the building laws, wasn't it? Not because of some "offensive" rationale?

Christianity is offensive to those unsaved. If we want "offensive" to be a reason for denying the permit, be well prepared for that to come back and bite us on home turf.

Many of those buildings you cited are often denied building permits if it is close to schools etc. Cities have the right to refuse building permits to any business or religious group. Since no one is guaranteed the right to build whatever they want whereever they want, then I see nothing wrong with denying this mosque being built when it is so clearly offensive to most of the population.

I never said it was wrong to deny them a building permit based on the building code. I said (and stand by) that denying it on the basis of "offense" set up a standard I am not happy with.

[Guest man]

According to the Constitution they have every right to build there, but after what happened on 9/11, I find their actions tasteless and insensitive.

People should be offended and for those of you who aren't, just wait, they'll be coming to a neighborhood near you.

[other one]

Freedom of religion and Islam doesn't belong in the same discussion. Islam is a theocratic form of governemnt who happens to believe in one God. It has it's own laws and controls every facit if it's citizens lives...... even to the point of how you finish your business when you go to the bathroom.

Ok, I am going to open a whole can of worms, but here goes.

Let me first say that I am in no way comparing Islam to Judaism.

__________ is a theocratic form of government who happens to believe in one God. It has its own laws and controls every facet if it's citizens lives

Would it not be accurate to fill in the blank above with Israel under the Mosaic Law?

Yes it would. But most likely it would be under the Talmudic law and not just Mosiac Law.

Another question...... what would the USA be like if it was ruled by Talmudic Law, compared to Islam. it would be interesting to know.

Edited August 30, 2010 by other one

[other one]

According to the Constitution they have every right to build there, but after what happened on 9/11, I find their actions tasteless and insensitive.

People should be offended and for those of you who aren't, just wait, they'll be coming to a neighborhood near you.

And they'll get preached to if they do.....