John 1:1

[Fez]

actually, they can spend a bit of time and lower their celestial body energies to match our dimension's and become as flesh and blood as you and I. That's also most likely how they managed to mate with Adams daughters.

Please share the source of your enlightenment.

Also, can you point me to the scripture concerning this?

[OneLight]

Sorry for the delay in answering. I have been working 12 to 18 hour days.

The only time Angles need bodies are when they communicate with humans, coming to our reality ... the physical.

Really? I didn't know that. Can you give me the verse(s)?

You are right on one thing here, they do not need to always have a body to speak. Yet, it is recorded many more times in scripture that an angel appeared and spoke compared to the times when they spoke to men in dreams or visions.

They are not always physical, as your words lead me to believe.

What you concluded is not what I said. Just where did I say they were physical

1Co 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

Physical and tangible are not necessarily the same.?

I thought I did. Was it not written that Elisha asked God to open the eyes of his servant so he could see what Elisha had faith in, relieving to the servant the many angels on chariots? Now, why would God have to open the servants eyes if they had physical bodies? If you are splitting hairs between physical and tangible, go ahead. That is drifting pretty far from what I first posted about language not having to be only spoken.

They appear as we are because that is all we can see and understand. We never have seen into the spirit world to know for sure that they appear like that all the time, yet, being human and understanding in our terms, we make them this way always in our minds. When we are finally with Him, we will know the truth. Until then, I will keep the unknown just that.

While there may indeed be a dimensional distinction between the bodies of mankind and the various angelic host, scriptural references of angelic beings in the presence of God do have distinct forms, characteristics and limitations. Just because they by the power of God can be in transition whereby communication with humanity is intimate does not mean they are bodiless spirits.

I believe God speaks in terms we can understand, describing creation in a way we can accept and relate to. Scripture tells us that He has prepared for us much that our thoughts could never understand or conceive. Why is it so hard to have faith beyond what we already know and understand?

I am positive that there will be worship in heaven, but pure worship is in the spirit, expressed the best we can by physical means.

And this relates to what in the discussion?

What is worship but a means of communication? Is this not what I challenged you on in the first place?

Are you saying we are incapable of pure worship here in the spirit because we are physical?

No, but if I have to compare how we worship now compared to how we will be able to worship when we are with him, this is not pure worship for we are not pure.

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Let me ask this straight out.

When we pray in silence, in our hearts and minds, does God hear us? When the Holy Spirit speaks to our spirit, so we not hear Him? Why does one need to verbalize anything when the communication between God and man can be done spiritually?

Now, be honest here ... am I really misunderstanding what you are saying about communication or am I seeing it differently then you all?

[other one]

actually, they can spend a bit of time and lower their celestial body energies to match our dimension's and become as flesh and blood as you and I. That's also most likely how they managed to mate with Adams daughters.

Please share the source of your enlightenment.

Also, can you point me to the scripture concerning this?

Genesis chapter six is a start Fez. Although you won't find the details anywhere I know written in the word, we are told that we should treat strangers well for we never know when we're interfacing with angels.

It's just a bit of experience I thought I share, really not a big deal........ at least not on my part.

[BlindSeeker]

Now, be honest here ... am I really misunderstanding what you are saying about communication or am I seeing it differently then you all?

I think it must be so.

[OneLight]

Now, be honest here ... am I really misunderstanding what you are saying about communication or am I seeing it differently then you all?

I think it must be so.

Which?

[BlindSeeker]

Now, be honest here ... am I really misunderstanding what you are saying about communication or am I seeing it differently then you all?

I think it must be so.

Which?

Both or either. The end result is still the same.

[OneLight]

Now, be honest here ... am I really misunderstanding what you are saying about communication or am I seeing it differently then you all?

I think it must be so.

Which?

Both or either. The end result is still the same.

The end result ... you mean disagreeing with you or not understanding what you mean are the same? Hope you don't teach.

[Fez]

"Drawing on my fine command of the English language, I said nothing" - Robert Benchley

[BlindSeeker]

Now, be honest here ... am I really misunderstanding what you are saying about communication or am I seeing it differently then you all?

I think it must be so.

Which?

Both or either. The end result is still the same.

The end result ... you mean disagreeing with you or not understanding what you mean are the same? Hope you don't teach.

[BlindSeeker]

Whether you misunderstand me or see it differently . . . the end result is the same is it not. What is so confusing with that?