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There is nothing divine about Christianity and it's many facets.

Only the bible offers divine teaching.

Problem is that many students attempt to twist it's words to suit their own "version" of Christianity.

The thought "There is nothing divine about Christianity ...." is very extreme, and 1. your thoughts showed that your "Christianity" is indeed different than mine. 2. If Jesus didn't bring a Divine Teaching and if His teaching is not Divine at all, what Divine teaching are you following? I don't think you are following one at all. 3. You maby be following some pastors, but not Christ.

Blessings.

1. and thank the Lord for that......

2. You confuse the Word with Christianity.

3. Never, ever, follow the man. Never ever, follow the doctrine of man.

The only divine you will find is the Word. (read John 1:1) You should not only try reading it, you should find yourself a good teacher who can assist you in understanding it, and whose fruits are evident. Stay away from the bible code, end of the world is nigh teachers, they are false Prophets.

Find a bible based, solid church, and sit there and listen. Then make up your own mind after lots of reading and prayer.

The bible is not a Mathematics text book, it is the divine word of God.

Oh how I wish more Christians would practice this! It is great wisdom that too few heed.


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1 Corinthians 13:2, And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so I could move mountains (tells us that gifts of the spirit can be had by less then perfect people, as should be obvious), and have not charity (Love), I am nothing (We now see the basis on which everything must be built--it is Love. If not, we are nothing!)

I don't see anything wrong with this scripture.

There's nothing wrong with the scripture. There's nothing wrong with any scripture. ;)

The problem is that LWT is pushing a so-called "gospel of love" that far more resembles new age philosophy than Christianity. They're heavily into "God is Love" and consistently ignore everything else. LWT is trying to use this verse to tell us that, in the words of the Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

If the "Gospel of Love" (meaning believing in God is Love) as you understand it is my problem. - Then I am blessed. I can assure you, I will not give up that blessing for anything. :)

Blessings


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1 Corinthians 13:2, And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so I could move mountains (tells us that gifts of the spirit can be had by less then perfect people, as should be obvious), and have not charity (Love), I am nothing (We now see the basis on which everything must be built--it is Love. If not, we are nothing!)

I don't see anything wrong with this scripture.

There's nothing wrong with the scripture. There's nothing wrong with any scripture. ;)

The problem is that LWT is pushing a so-called "gospel of love" that far more resembles new age philosophy than Christianity. They're heavily into "God is Love" and consistently ignore everything else. LWT is trying to use this verse to tell us that, in the words of the Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

If the "Gospel of Love" (meaning believing in God is Love) as you understand it is my problem. - Then I am blessed. I can assure you, I will not give up that blessing for anything. :)

Blessings

You are free to believe whatever you like. You cannot call yourself a Christian, however, if you refuse to believe the truth of the Bible. The Bible most assuredly does not teach "God is Love." That is a doctrine of man, not of God.

For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths.

2 Tim 4:3-4 (NLT)

I'm quite sure that time is here. "God is love" appeals to our human nature, but it does not fall in line with the Bible and therefore it must be shunned.

I don't expect you to agree with me. What I've said has been repeated numerous times by others to you. As Fez said, you should never, ever follow any man's doctrine (no matter how "good" you think he is) when that doctrine goes against the Word of God.


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1 Corinthians 13:2, And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so I could move mountains (tells us that gifts of the spirit can be had by less then perfect people, as should be obvious), and have not charity (Love), I am nothing (We now see the basis on which everything must be built--it is Love. If not, we are nothing!)

I don't see anything wrong with this scripture.

There's nothing wrong with the scripture. There's nothing wrong with any scripture. ;)

The problem is that LWT is pushing a so-called "gospel of love" that far more resembles new age philosophy than Christianity. They're heavily into "God is Love" and consistently ignore everything else. LWT is trying to use this verse to tell us that, in the words of the Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

If you only had one word to describe the Bible, what would it be? I think that word would be "Love".

After saying that, I think one can not live on Love alone, there is a lot of other things in God's works. I think LWT is seeking truth, but if he has the "All You Need Is Love" (Now I got that song in my head, thanks) syndrome, then he is blind to the truth. The truth I posted in my last post, Love is the basis (Foundation) that everything must be built on. You can have a strong foundation, but if you don't build on it, you must then ask yourself, do I really understand God's Love?


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If the "Gospel of Love" (meaning believing in God is Love) as you understand it is my problem. - Then I am blessed. I can assure you, I will not give up that blessing for anything. :)

Blessings

God is Love yes but that's just one many of his attributes.

Here are a few more.

God is good - Ps 129:4 But the Lord is good;he has cut me free from the ropes of the ungodly.

God is faithful - Deut 32:4 He is the Rock; his deeds are perfect. Everything he does is just and fair. He is a faithful God who does no wrong; how just and upright he is!

God is the way, God is truth, God is life - John 14:6 Jesus told him,


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1 Corinthians 13:2, And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so I could move mountains (tells us that gifts of the spirit can be had by less then perfect people, as should be obvious), and have not charity (Love), I am nothing (We now see the basis on which everything must be built--it is Love. If not, we are nothing!)

I don't see anything wrong with this scripture.

There's nothing wrong with the scripture. There's nothing wrong with any scripture. ;)

The problem is that LWT is pushing a so-called "gospel of love" that far more resembles new age philosophy than Christianity. They're heavily into "God is Love" and consistently ignore everything else. LWT is trying to use this verse to tell us that, in the words of the Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

If the "Gospel of Love" (meaning believing in God is Love) as you understand it is my problem. - Then I am blessed. I can assure you, I will not give up that blessing for anything. :)

Blessings

John 3:1-21

The New Birth

There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him,


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1 Corinthians 13:2, And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so I could move mountains (tells us that gifts of the spirit can be had by less then perfect people, as should be obvious), and have not charity (Love), I am nothing (We now see the basis on which everything must be built--it is Love. If not, we are nothing!)

I don't see anything wrong with this scripture.

There's nothing wrong with the scripture. There's nothing wrong with any scripture. ;)

The problem is that LWT is pushing a so-called "gospel of love" that far more resembles new age philosophy than Christianity. They're heavily into "God is Love" and consistently ignore everything else. LWT is trying to use this verse to tell us that, in the words of the Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

If you only had one word to describe the Bible, what would it be? I think that word would be "Love".

After saying that, I think one can not live on Love alone, there is a lot of other things in God's works. I think LWT is seeking truth, but if he has the "All You Need Is Love" (Now I got that song in my head, thanks) syndrome, then he is blind to the truth. The truth I posted in my last post, Love is the basis (Foundation) that everything must be built on. You can have a strong foundation, but if you don't build on it, you must then ask yourself, do I really understand God's Love?

I believe you and I agree. Love is a profound part of our service to God. Love for God is part of the greatest commandment. As you said, everything must be based on it. But LWT isn't advocating that aspect of it. They are pushing, "Jesus is love and all we need to do is love like He did" philosophy. Love is all fine and well, but it doesn't save us. It is why we can be saved, the motivation behind the sacrifice Jesus made on our behalf, but joining hands with everyone else around the world and singing "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing" is not salvation.

Sorry about the song. I hate it when that happens! I've now just stuck "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing" in my head. :laugh:


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My question was a serious one. LWT, how do you view the bible? It contains so many passages pertaining to salvation, all of them tied into the death and resurrection of Christ, salvation by faith in His finished work, and dying to self and following Him. It would be dishonest to sweep so many portions of the bible under the rug and just comment on 'love'. What do you do with them? Why do you think His central message is love? I think His central message is redemption through Christ.

I also don't think we have have the same view of love. Love does not have any redemptive power, love is what sent Jesus to earth to die on the cross, and that action had redemptive power.

Look forward to hearing from you.


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If the "Gospel of Love" (meaning believing in God is Love) as you understand it is my problem. - Then I am blessed. I can assure you, I will not give up that blessing for anything. :)

Blessings

Matt. 7

22 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'

23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

How are you known to the Lord?

Matt. 22

11 "But when the king came in to look over the dinner guests, he saw a man there who was not dressed in wedding clothes, 12 and he said to him, 'Friend, how did you come in here without wedding clothes ?' And the man was speechless. 13 "Then the king said to the servants, 'Bind him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness ; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'

Are you dressed in wedding clothes?


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Why don't we try having a conversation rather than ganging up on this person? I would like to know why LWT believes what he/she does. Maybe we can all learn something. :)

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