Are Satan and Lucifer one and the same?

[~candice~]

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I've been informed that the word "Lucifer" was the name by some given for Venus as seen in the morning. Then the KJV translators inserted that name (Venus) for helel.

Lucifer, ( Latin: Lightbearer) Greek Phosphorus, or Eosphoros, Lucifer, in classical mythology, the morning star (i.e., the planet Venus at dawn); personified as a male figure bearing a torch, Lucifer had almost no legend, but in poetry he was often herald of the dawn. In Christian times Lucifer came to be regarded as the name of Satan before his fall. It was thus used by John Milton (1608–74) in Paradise Lost, and the idea underlies the proverbial phrase “as proud as Lucifer.”

http://www.britannic.../350594/Lucifer

Thank you for your information.

"Behold! We said to the angels "Bow down to Adam": they bowed down except Iblis. He was one of the Jinns, and he broke the Command of his Lord. Will ye then take him and his progeny as protectors rather than Me? And they are enemies to you! Evil would be the exchange for the wrongdoers! (50)" [18:50] Quran

Iblis is the father of satan and satans are Jinn.

Iblis means who despair the mercy of The God.

Satan (Shaytan) means who is far from goodness.

Jinn means who is not visible.

Happy, are you Muslim?

[Happy Forever]

a

I've been informed that the word "Lucifer" was the name by some given for Venus as seen in the morning. Then the KJV translators inserted that name (Venus) for helel.

Lucifer, ( Latin: Lightbearer) Greek Phosphorus, or Eosphoros, Lucifer, in classical mythology, the morning star (i.e., the planet Venus at dawn); personified as a male figure bearing a torch, Lucifer had almost no legend, but in poetry he was often herald of the dawn. In Christian times Lucifer came to be regarded as the name of Satan before his fall. It was thus used by John Milton (1608–74) in Paradise Lost, and the idea underlies the proverbial phrase “as proud as Lucifer.”

http://www.britannic.../350594/Lucifer

Thank you for your information.

"Behold! We said to the angels "Bow down to Adam": they bowed down except Iblis. He was one of the Jinns, and he broke the Command of his Lord. Will ye then take him and his progeny as protectors rather than Me? And they are enemies to you! Evil would be the exchange for the wrongdoers! (50)" [18:50] Quran

Iblis is the father of satan and satans are Jinn.

Iblis means who despair the mercy of The God.

Satan (Shaytan) means who is far from goodness.

Jinn means who is not visible.

Happy, are you Muslim?

Yes I am Al HAmdu Li Allah. Are you Christian?

[~candice~]

Absolutely, I am a Christian.

[other one]

I belive they are one in the same: for example God he is known as Yeshua, Yaweh or Elohim are all Hebrew names, reffering to the same person.

Satan is the child of Iblis. He is Jinn, made of fire.

I would think that Mohammad would agree with you.. Not me, and not most here.

Did you see any Satan? Did you experience him?

If no and it is no, on what bases you got your claims and reject the truth?

I believe I have both seen and experienced Lucifer. And i would reject your post as being truth. he was an archangel created not born.

[Happy Forever]

Absolutely, I am a Christian.

Yes you are a good Christian.

What is the meaning of Christian?

What is the meaning of Muslim?

Or in other words, what is the meaning of Christianity and Islam?

[Fez]

Absolutely, I am a Christian.

Yes you are a good Christian.

What is the meaning of Christian?

What is the meaning of Muslim?

Or in other words, what is the meaning of Christianity and Islam?

Even if this meets the TOS, it requires a separate post.

Happy please remember you were kicked from chat last night, and this is a Christian site.

[Shiloh62]

There is some (I believe legitimate) question as to whether Satan and the being Lucifer described in Isaiah are one and the same.

Satan is a title, not a given name. Satan is Hebrew for adversary. It is used 15 times in the entire Old Testament.

Lucifer means light-bearer and is rendered Heylel. It is used exactly once in all of Scripture.

I am personally not 100% convinced that Satan's 'name' is Lucifer.

While we are on this, what about Beezlebub? Is that satan ,also?

[other one]

There is some (I believe legitimate) question as to whether Satan and the being Lucifer described in Isaiah are one and the same.

Satan is a title, not a given name. Satan is Hebrew for adversary. It is used 15 times in the entire Old Testament.

Lucifer means light-bearer and is rendered Heylel. It is used exactly once in all of Scripture.

I am personally not 100% convinced that Satan's 'name' is Lucifer.

While we are on this, what about Beezlebub? Is that satan ,also?

I don't know, it could be Satan himself or one of his fallen angel followers of high rank. Although I'll not be looking, If I should see him I'll ask him.

[nebula]

Although I'll not be looking, If I should see him I'll ask him.

I really do hope you are joking.....

[other one]

Although I'll not be looking, If I should see him I'll ask him.

I really do hope you are joking.....

Well, when I wrote it I was joking, but, thinking about it, it is possible. The evil dude isn't dead.He's just as alive as the devil himself and all the others that fell.