"Father" and "Son" Ousted from the Trinity in New Bibl

[joi]

'Father' and 'Son' Ousted from the Trinity in New Bible Translations

A controversy is brewing over three reputable Christian organizations, which are based in North America, whose efforts have ousted the words "Father" and "Son" from new Bibles. Wycliffe Bible Translators, Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL) and Frontiers are under fire for "producing Bibles that remove "Father," "Son" and "Son of God" because these terms are offensive to Muslims." (highlight mine)

Concerned Christian missionaries, Bible translators, pastors, and national church leaders have come together with a public petition to stop these organizations. They claim a public petition is their last recourse because meetings with these organizations' leaders, staff resignations over this issue and criticism and appeals from native national Christians concerned about the translations "have failed to persuade these agencies to retain "Father" and "Son" in the text of all their translations."

Read it:

http://news.yahoo.com/father-son-ousted-trinity-bible-translations-003300519.html

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)

Think not that I have come to bring peace in the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.

http://bible.cc/matthew/10-34.htm

[other one]

Oh My...... God forbid someone offending a Muslim....

Well, that is so bazar that my wife doesn't believe it's true.

[joi]

This is very telling and shameless!

Third, Frontiers and SIL have produced a new Turkish translation of the Gospel of Matthew that uses Turkish equivalents of "guardian" for "Father" and "representative" or "proxy" for "Son." To Turkish church leader Rev. Fikret Böcek, "This translation is 'an all-American idea' with absolutely no respect for the 'sacredness' of Scripture, or even of the growing Turkish church."

The Turkish Church recognizes this is wrong, so what is it with the producers of this Bible? ? ?

[He giveth more grace]

Wycliffe sounds apostate here. Shall we obey men rather than God. The Bible is suposed to be offensive, the offense of the cross and all that.

[Littlelambseativy]

To hear about this is disgusting (Jack Van Impe) but to see it in print is an offence. It does not surprise me that Wycliffe has gone this way. Are they not in with Warren and his ilk?

[Guest]

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Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

Tock

But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

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Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

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Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

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Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

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And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

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These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 1 John 2:18-26

Tick.......

[OneLight]

The all to well known saying comes to mind ... "for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first".

[ayin jade]

To hear about this is disgusting (Jack Van Impe) but to see it in print is an offence. It does not surprise me that Wycliffe has gone this way. Are they not in with Warren and his ilk?

Are they? My husband was accepted as a translator for them before we were married. He will hate to hear about this.

[~candice~]

Well... here is what Wycliffe has to say on the matter

http://www.wycliffe.net/stories/tabid/67/Default.aspx?id=2408&pg=1&topic-id=1&library=T

In particular, the article says

This highlights the fact that translators are not trying to remove original meanings from the translation that might offend the audience. On the contrary, their concern is to avoid incorrect meanings that fail to communicate the informational content, feelings, and attitudes of the original inspired text.

[ayin jade]

I found this at their site:

http://www.wycliffe.org/TranslationStandards.aspx

I also found this article:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2011/octoberweb-only/son-of-god-translation-guidelines.html

Interesting.