National ID Card is coming soon

[joi]

Citing Mounting Opposition Among States, Astronomical Costs & Privacy Concerns, Rutherford Institute Warns Against Implementation of Real ID

March 29, 2012

WASHINGTON, D.C. —The Rutherford Institute has joined with a national coalition of organizations to vigorously oppose any effort by the federal government to force states to comply with the Real ID Act of 2005. The Real ID Act would essentially establish a national ID by requiring states to comply with costly and restrictive federal licensing standards aimed at creating a national database of drivers’ licenses. Alternately derided as a national ID card, a violation of the Tenth Amendment, an unfunded mandate, and a threat to civil liberties, the Real ID program has largely stalled, primarily due to mounting opposition from the states, many of which have adopted laws or resolutions opposing it. In its letter to the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, the coalition—comprised of The Rutherford Institute, the ACLU, the Constitutional Alliance, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and the Liberty Coalition, among others—warned against Congress or the Department of Homeland Security attempting to revive the Real ID program, insisting that doing so would not only be costly to the states, but would also jeopardize civil liberties by facilitating the government’s ability to track Americans—a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment.

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/on_the_front_lines/citing_mounting_opposition_among_states_astronomical_costs_privacy_concerns

[other one]

I have a drivers licenxe that identifies who I am. I fail to see the problem with an ID that says I'm a Citizen of the United States and identifies me as me.... It will be no different than my drivers license...

[Fez]

I have a drivers licenxe that identifies who I am. I fail to see the problem with an ID that says I'm a Citizen of the United States and identifies me as me.... It will be no different than my drivers license...

I am not American, but I was thinking the same thing? I have had an ID book since I was 16. The men in black have not visited me once!

[oldzimm]

I have a drivers licenxe that identifies who I am. I fail to see the problem with an ID that says I'm a Citizen of the United States and identifies me as me.... It will be no different than my drivers license...

I am not American, but I was thinking the same thing? I have had an ID book since I was 16. The men in black have not visited me once!

I was thinking along the same line, we already have ID cards, it seems social security cards are the big one. (even though they weren't originally meant to be)

[OneLight]

I also do not disagree, but there is a catch ... I believe this is one way to get the illegal aliens a get out of jail card.

[other one]

I also do not disagree, but there is a catch ... I believe this is one way to get the illegal aliens a get out of jail card.

Well, I don't think it will if they make it as hard to get as an Oklahoma Drivers License. I had to prove I was a citizen to get a license. That and passing laws to punish people who hire illegals caused very large numbers of them to leave the state.

[Guest]

Indiana has a law just like this and I have nor hear of any complaints about it. Except, of course, from the Democrats: "it's too difficult and costly for minorities" and it makes it difficult for illegals to vote.

[Fez]

Indiana has a law just like this and I have nor hear of any complaints about it. Except, of course, from the Democrats: "it's too difficult and costly for minorities" and it makes it difficult for illegals to vote.

I don't know how it works with you, but here, if I intend to vote I take my ID to a pre voting station and am entered on the voters roll a few weeks before the vote (municipal or national vote). On the date of the vote I present my ID and am issued a form with the candidates on. I make my X in private and drop it in a box. Although the gov knows I have voted, they don't know who for. The forms cannot be traced back to individual voters.

If I arrive on voting day and am not registered on the voters roll I can't vote.

It is a bit cumbersome, but it works.... It also stops multiple voting, and being Africa a small dot of ink is dropped on one's thumbnail. You cannot get the stuff off for at least a week...

Hey, this is Africa, and we make a plan! Electronic voting just can't work, because the rural areas don't have electricity, let alone internet!

[MorningGlory]

Indiana has a law just like this and I have nor hear of any complaints about it. Except, of course, from the Democrats: "it's too difficult and costly for minorities" and it makes it difficult for illegals to vote.

I don't know how it works with you, but here, if I intend to vote I take my ID to a pre voting station and am entered on the voters roll a few weeks before the vote (municipal or national vote). On the date of the vote I present my ID and am issued a form with the candidates on. I make my X in private and drop it in a box. Although the gov knows I have voted, they don't know who for. The forms cannot be traced back to individual voters.

If I arrive on voting day and am not registered on the voters roll I can't vote.

It is a bit cumbersome, but it works.... It also stops multiple voting, and being Africa a small dot of ink is dropped on one's thumbnail. You cannot get the stuff off for at least a week...

Hey, this is Africa, and we make a plan! Electronic voting just can't work, because the rural areas don't have electricity, let alone internet!

Here, in Texas, we register each year by mail or in person. I think that opens the door to ineligible voters and I don't mean so much illegal (most Hispanics working here have green cards) but not eligible because they aren't citizens. I've had some of them tell me flat out that they vote and have been doing so for years. While I understand that they pay taxes here and want to vote....they need to do it legally by becoming citizens. As for multiple voting....I'm not sure what prevents that here, if anything. I'm all for voter I.D. in the U.S.

[Bold Believer]

One question for all of you who think this is a good idea: What happened when David numbered the people of Israel?