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there rarely are. but GOD is in control of this election. GOD is the one who puts all rulers into place, good or bad. He has given us the right and the responsibility to take part in the election process, and my personal thoughts are that if i were to take a similar stance as you, and refuse to vote because neither candidate was truly espoused to Christ, then i believe i would be acting in disobedience to God... and that act of disobedience could be the reason that He puts the least desirable of the undesirables in as my leader.

God has given us the RIGHT to vote but nowhere in Scripture does He make voting our responsibility. I believe I should vote but it's a duty as a citizen, not a believer.

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there rarely are. but GOD is in control of this election. GOD is the one who puts all rulers into place, good or bad. He has given us the right and the responsibility to take part in the election process, and my personal thoughts are that if i were to take a similar stance as you, and refuse to vote because neither candidate was truly espoused to Christ, then i believe i would be acting in disobedience to God... and that act of disobedience could be the reason that He puts the least desirable of the undesirables in as my leader.

Interesting to see the way anothers conscience works. I have the opposite view of course and believe my disobedience would be choosing a leader who doesn't actually follow Christ. Although I will obey the ordinances that come of such an elected leader per the bibles instruction, I have never seen any clear dictate from scripture that convicts me to believe it is my responsibility to pick on or the other. We must all do as our conscience dictates and I will not fault you for following yours as God is using us both to put into office the candidate he has already chosen. I believe in individual soul liberty. We shall all appear before the judgment seat of Christ and give an account. I would never encourage someone to go against their conscience.

Gary

it's one of those "grey" areas... where God doesn't give a direct mandate, it is left between each person and God. what is a sin for one is not necessarily a sin for the next. good post :)

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there rarely are. but GOD is in control of this election. GOD is the one who puts all rulers into place, good or bad. He has given us the right and the responsibility to take part in the election process, and my personal thoughts are that if i were to take a similar stance as you, and refuse to vote because neither candidate was truly espoused to Christ, then i believe i would be acting in disobedience to God... and that act of disobedience could be the reason that He puts the least desirable of the undesirables in as my leader.

what makes you think that he's exercising his authority in this crazy world today...

i don't understand your question... what makes me think WHO is exercising his authority... gary, or God? if you mean God, i have no doubt He exercises His authority every day! if you're talking about gary, what authority does he have? i mentioned rights and responsibilities... i should also have mentioned privilege. but anyway, i'm really confused about your question. must be this texas heat.


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there rarely are. but GOD is in control of this election. GOD is the one who puts all rulers into place, good or bad. He has given us the right and the responsibility to take part in the election process, and my personal thoughts are that if i were to take a similar stance as you, and refuse to vote because neither candidate was truly espoused to Christ, then i believe i would be acting in disobedience to God... and that act of disobedience could be the reason that He puts the least desirable of the undesirables in as my leader.

what makes you think that he's exercising his authority in this crazy world today...

i don't understand your question... what makes me think WHO is exercising his authority... gary, or God? if you mean God, i have no doubt He exercises His authority every day! if you're talking about gary, what authority does he have? i mentioned rights and responsibilities... i should also have mentioned privilege. but anyway, i'm really confused about your question. must be this texas heat.

You're in Texas, L.C.?

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there rarely are. but GOD is in control of this election. GOD is the one who puts all rulers into place, good or bad. He has given us the right and the responsibility to take part in the election process, and my personal thoughts are that if i were to take a similar stance as you, and refuse to vote because neither candidate was truly espoused to Christ, then i believe i would be acting in disobedience to God... and that act of disobedience could be the reason that He puts the least desirable of the undesirables in as my leader.

God has given us the RIGHT to vote but nowhere in Scripture does He make voting our responsibility. I believe I should vote but it's a duty as a citizen, not a believer.

maybe. of course it doesn't say in scripture that voting is our responsibility. but it doesn't specify in scripture that it is our right, either. nevertheless, you agree that it is a God given right...

i just think that when God gives us a right to something, it's irresponsible to not act upon that right. God has given us a right to inherit His kingdom, as co-heirs with Christ... isn't it our responsibility, then, to act in accordance with the right that He has given us? we've been given the right to be involved in electing our country's leadership. the case could be made that such a right was granted by the government, not from God. it wouldn't matter, even if that were the case. the bottom line is, we've been given that right... the right to help put leaders in place that will direct this country in a manner that aligns itself with godly values. if we forfeit that right, are we behaving responsibly? our participation might well make a difference... and our lack of participation may also make a difference... one we regretted. if we choose not to participate, we certainly don't have room to complain later, do we?

just food for thought. anyway, i think i've had my fill of politics for one day. i don't have the stomach for it that i used to have, so i'm gonna bow out.

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MG, yes, we moved back to texas last summer. i miss vegas, but God was behind this move. life has been much better in every aspect since returning home.... mark's been clean and sober the whole time, and our marriage is rock solid again. mark even takes an interest in attending church, and voluntarily tithes these days.

sorry to derail... back on topic now!


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MG, yes, we moved back to texas last summer. i miss vegas, but God was behind this move. life has been much better in every aspect since returning home.... mark's been clean and sober the whole time, and our marriage is rock solid again. mark even takes an interest in attending church, and voluntarily tithes these days.

sorry to derail... back on topic now!

Praise God! And welcome home...... :mgbowtie:


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Why on earth would I vote for that loon Paul?


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Why on earth would I vote for that loon Paul?

That's a question I'l like to see answers for....... we can't do write in's so is won't happen here.

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Why on earth would I vote for that loon Paul?

That's a question I'l like to see answers for....... we can't do write in's so is won't happen here.

It takes votes away from Romney.

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