Christian tattoos okay?

[Guest Butero]

yah, wish it was okay in the Bible to get a christian tat, but I will settle with my cross necklace. I got a ring today that says CTR (choose the right)...I think it might be a mormon ring....but hey, if it helps me to stay celibate and chose the right path then it is worth it! The cashier said lots of different people get these rings, not just mormons.

God bless! Hope everyone is having a super saturday!

Those will be much better witnessing tools. Even if it turned out that I was completely wrong about tattoos, and I don't think I am, a lot of people see them as sinful. Most people would look favorably on a cross necklace and a ring like the one you described.

[LOVE SONGS]

My opinion, if a person has a tattoo or covered from head to toe....

or, if a person has body piercings. ....

if a person shaves their head, or wears their hair long....none of these things bother me,

it is their business what they do to themselves.

I am a people person ,and enjoy talking to people , even if they have a big bone stuck through ,

their nose. ...... I might batt my eyelids but, keep on talking , so not to get distracted ...

for I do talk a LOT ....

God looks at the heart of man and woman...he calls us of of the kingdom of darkness regardless of

how we may look like on the outside of our body. He accepts us into His kingdom just the way we are and

what we may look like.

Then after that, talk about a job He had to do with me... LOL...and still is...til the day we die..

a daily changing.

He is the Potter and we are the clay... I told Him... if He puts me into the oven again...I may Crack !

Just my humor here...please don't take me serious. LOL

I don't care who it is, there is going to be a line in the sand somewhere when it comes to a person's appearance. If you don't care about tattoos or hair length, you can't really believe that God doesn't care about our appearance. Do you believe there is a point when it comes to decency where someone needs to be covered? If so, you recognize that God does care about appearance. There are certain things in the Bible God says are right and wrong, and some of those things regard appearance. For instance, the Bible says it is a shame for a man to have long hair, and a woman to have short hair. The Bible comes against cross-dressing, and we are told to be modest. It really comes down to what your line in the sand is, and what is really important is what is God's line in the sand?

Yes...Yes...you are right in what you said . The Holy Spirit deals with each and everyone of us , once we are saved.

He cleans us up ... inside and out. But, that cleaning doesn't come overnight. It is a daily changing...like putting off the

old man and putting on the new man.

I know about me as a woman in the areas that God wanted me to change.

Dressing , modest.

No more short -shorts.

No low-cut blouses, or dresses.

No mini skirts...

He helped me change in the way I dressed,

and the way I speak... ( no cussing), gossiping, lying, , etc.

God takes us in filthy rags, and makes us white as snow. LOL

But, the change doesn't come over night as I said.

We are all not on the same spiritual level , growth ...or , walk with the Lord.

If people with tattoos come into church...or not dressed modest... we are to accept them.

God is concerned about their soul.

We are to witness to the lost ...those that walk into church, the Pastor does an alter call .

Or, to witness to the people God puts in front of us, outside of church.

Even if they have , tattoos, head shaven, or body piercing, and not dressed appropriately.

We are to Love them and be a witness for the Lord.

Let the Holy Spirit ,work His good work,... within them as He does with us.

This is my opinion. I can only answer for myself, in my spiritual walk with the Lord.

God Loves You ..

[HAZARD]

Someone mentioned to me some years ago there is not one mention of Tattoo's in Scripture. I know it was and has been done and is mentioned in Scripture. In fact God commanded it be done.

"And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the WRITERS INKHORN BY HIS SIDE; And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and AND SET A MARK UPON THE FOREHEADS of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof." (Ezekiel 9:3-4).

This mark was to be put on the faithful ones for their protection when the faithless were destroyed. It showed they belonged to God.

It was an ancient custom in Egypt that a runaway slave was freed from his master if he went to the temple and declared himself up to the god of that place, recieving certain marks upon his person to denote his consecration to the diety he worshiped. Romans marked their soldiers in the hand and their slaves in the forheads. It is clear from Rev. 7:3; 9:4; 14:1 that in the future, 144,000 Jews from all tribes of Israel, except Dan, will have a mark in their foreheads as a sign for protection. It will be the name of God (Rev. 14:1). All the redeemed will be so marked in the next life (Rev. 3:12; 22:4).

The followers of the Beast will also be marked in the foreheads or hands (Rev. 13:16-17; 14:9; 20:4).

I'm not in favour of tattoo's in my life now, but we are created free moral agents and are as such free to choos what we will.

Cheers, Haz.

That was not a tattoo. It was not even a visible mark. God was telling the angel to mark those who belonged to him so they wouldn't be destroyed. It is not like they suddenly had a mark like Cain had placed upon him. It was for God to see, not other people, and there was no ink placed under their skin.

Mate, you can ignore God's Word if you like, doesnt bother me in the slightest.

He called to THE MAN, not the angel, with the INKHORN by his side, and he told him to go mark the men on their foreheads.

Here again is what God said;

And he called TO THE MAN CLOTHED WITH LINEN, which had the WRITERS INKHORN BY HIS SIDE; And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and AND SET A MARK UPON THE FOREHEADS of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof." (Ezekiel 9:3-4). Fairly plain, clear and simple to understand that Scripture. You with with the inkhorn go and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men! (Inkhorn / set a mark / we who underatand and can read plain English see him marking the men with ink!on their foreheads).

I have read that passage repeatedly, and never once did I believe that was a literal mark. I just told that to someone else, and they laughed at the notion it was a tattoo. Some tattoo apologists have claimed Jesus had a tattoo, which is ludicrous, and this is just as absurd to me. I am not ignoring anything. I don't believe it was a literal mark. The only one that could see it was God. It was a spiritual mark. There are a lot of things going on in the spiritual rhelm we cannot see, like there are angels that encamp around us. We don't see them, but they exist. This mark was not literal. It is not like these people went around with a tattoo on their head the rest of their life. If you believe that, more power to you, but I do not!

By the way, the Bible says the earth is God's footstool. Does that mean it is a literal footstool, rather than the planet we dwell on?

"I just told that to someone else, and they laughed at the notion it was a tattoo."

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I enjoy a good laugh as well, but I rarely laugh about the Scritpures and what they teach.

Here is the true method of bible interpertation. The chief fundamental principle is to gather from the Scriptures themselves the precise meaning the writers intended to convey. Correct interpretation applies to the Bible the same principles, rules, garmmatical process, and exercise of common sense and reason that we apply to other books. In doing this, one must take the Bible as literal when it is at all possible. When a statement is found that it cannot possibly be literal, as Jesus being a "door" or a woman being clothed with the sun and standing on the moon and on her head a crown of twelve stars, or of land animals coming out of the sea, and other statements which are obviously not literal, then we know the language is figurative. In such cases we must get the literal truth conveyed by the figurative language, and the truth intended to be conveyed will be as literal as if it were expressed in literal language without the use of such figures. After all, figurative language expresses literal truth as much as if such figures were not used. In a general sense, the true method of Bible interpretation embraces the following ideas.

1. The primary meaning of words in their common use in a particular age in which they are used, and the importance of synonyms.

2. The grammatical construction and idiomatic perculairities of the languages of the Bible,and the meaning of the context, both immediate and remote.

3. Comparrison of parallel passages on the same subject.

4. The purpose or object of each writer in each particular book.

5. The historical background of each writer and the circumstances under which he wrote.

6. The general plan of the entire Bible, and its moral and spiritual teachings.

7. The agreement of Scripture in its several parts, and its prophecies and their fulfillment.

8. The manners and customs of the particular age and landof each writer.

9. Understanding of how to interpret prophecy, poetry, allegories, symbols, parables, figures of speech, types, and all other forms of human expression.

10. The different classes of people and institutions dealt with in Scripture, and the application of the different principles and rules of interpretation.

When all these facts are kept in mind, and all Scriptures interpreted in harmony with all these principles, there cannot possibly be any misunderstanding of any part of the Bible. Remember this: Take the Bible literally whenever it is at all possible. When the language cannot be taken literally, then we know it is figurative. The we get the literal truth conveyed by the figurative language as if it were expressed in literal language without the use of figures.

Literally speaking, THE WRITERS INKHORN BY HIS SIDE. It was customary in the east for writers to put onto a girdle around their waist the case containing their writing impliments. The inkhorn consisted of two parts: a receptacle for the pens, and a box for the ink. It was made out of ebony, hard wood, brass, copper or silver and of beautiful workmanship. It was about 10 in. long, one and a half inches wide and half an inch deep. The hollow shaft contained pens of reed and a penknife and had a lid (v 2).

Nothing you have said has changed my mind in the least. Just because someone gives me a list of rules I am supposed to use to interpret scripture, that doesn't mean I have to accept those rules as correct.

You can do as you please whether you think they are correct or not? Here's what I said.

"Here is the true method of bible interpertation."

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I never one time said you need to, or are supposed to follow the rules of interpretation? You can ignore them for all anyone here cares. Many Bible scholars I know use these rules when confronted with a hard to understand doctrin. Its entirely up to you. Have you ever thought, if you took some advice, even a little, from others occasionally you might just learn something you may not have know, or do you truly know it all?

I dont believe anyone here is trying to prove anything, or trying to make out they know more than you? Some people even believe ignorance is bliss????? Tell us your not one of them please!

[Fez]

Nope, I would say stay away from tattoo's, only because they don't achive anything, and as this one says, Only God will "Juge" me?

He has to wear that his whole life!

[Guest Butero]

Someone mentioned to me some years ago there is not one mention of Tattoo's in Scripture. I know it was and has been done and is mentioned in Scripture. In fact God commanded it be done.

"And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the WRITERS INKHORN BY HIS SIDE; And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and AND SET A MARK UPON THE FOREHEADS of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof." (Ezekiel 9:3-4).

This mark was to be put on the faithful ones for their protection when the faithless were destroyed. It showed they belonged to God.

It was an ancient custom in Egypt that a runaway slave was freed from his master if he went to the temple and declared himself up to the god of that place, recieving certain marks upon his person to denote his consecration to the diety he worshiped. Romans marked their soldiers in the hand and their slaves in the forheads. It is clear from Rev. 7:3; 9:4; 14:1 that in the future, 144,000 Jews from all tribes of Israel, except Dan, will have a mark in their foreheads as a sign for protection. It will be the name of God (Rev. 14:1). All the redeemed will be so marked in the next life (Rev. 3:12; 22:4).

The followers of the Beast will also be marked in the foreheads or hands (Rev. 13:16-17; 14:9; 20:4).

I'm not in favour of tattoo's in my life now, but we are created free moral agents and are as such free to choos what we will.

Cheers, Haz.

That was not a tattoo. It was not even a visible mark. God was telling the angel to mark those who belonged to him so they wouldn't be destroyed. It is not like they suddenly had a mark like Cain had placed upon him. It was for God to see, not other people, and there was no ink placed under their skin.

Mate, you can ignore God's Word if you like, doesnt bother me in the slightest.

He called to THE MAN, not the angel, with the INKHORN by his side, and he told him to go mark the men on their foreheads.

Here again is what God said;

And he called TO THE MAN CLOTHED WITH LINEN, which had the WRITERS INKHORN BY HIS SIDE; And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and AND SET A MARK UPON THE FOREHEADS of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof." (Ezekiel 9:3-4). Fairly plain, clear and simple to understand that Scripture. You with with the inkhorn go and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men! (Inkhorn / set a mark / we who underatand and can read plain English see him marking the men with ink!on their foreheads).

I have read that passage repeatedly, and never once did I believe that was a literal mark. I just told that to someone else, and they laughed at the notion it was a tattoo. Some tattoo apologists have claimed Jesus had a tattoo, which is ludicrous, and this is just as absurd to me. I am not ignoring anything. I don't believe it was a literal mark. The only one that could see it was God. It was a spiritual mark. There are a lot of things going on in the spiritual rhelm we cannot see, like there are angels that encamp around us. We don't see them, but they exist. This mark was not literal. It is not like these people went around with a tattoo on their head the rest of their life. If you believe that, more power to you, but I do not!

By the way, the Bible says the earth is God's footstool. Does that mean it is a literal footstool, rather than the planet we dwell on?

"I just told that to someone else, and they laughed at the notion it was a tattoo."

.

I enjoy a good laugh as well, but I rarely laugh about the Scritpures and what they teach.

Here is the true method of bible interpertation. The chief fundamental principle is to gather from the Scriptures themselves the precise meaning the writers intended to convey. Correct interpretation applies to the Bible the same principles, rules, garmmatical process, and exercise of common sense and reason that we apply to other books. In doing this, one must take the Bible as literal when it is at all possible. When a statement is found that it cannot possibly be literal, as Jesus being a "door" or a woman being clothed with the sun and standing on the moon and on her head a crown of twelve stars, or of land animals coming out of the sea, and other statements which are obviously not literal, then we know the language is figurative. In such cases we must get the literal truth conveyed by the figurative language, and the truth intended to be conveyed will be as literal as if it were expressed in literal language without the use of such figures. After all, figurative language expresses literal truth as much as if such figures were not used. In a general sense, the true method of Bible interpretation embraces the following ideas.

1. The primary meaning of words in their common use in a particular age in which they are used, and the importance of synonyms.

2. The grammatical construction and idiomatic perculairities of the languages of the Bible,and the meaning of the context, both immediate and remote.

3. Comparrison of parallel passages on the same subject.

4. The purpose or object of each writer in each particular book.

5. The historical background of each writer and the circumstances under which he wrote.

6. The general plan of the entire Bible, and its moral and spiritual teachings.

7. The agreement of Scripture in its several parts, and its prophecies and their fulfillment.

8. The manners and customs of the particular age and landof each writer.

9. Understanding of how to interpret prophecy, poetry, allegories, symbols, parables, figures of speech, types, and all other forms of human expression.

10. The different classes of people and institutions dealt with in Scripture, and the application of the different principles and rules of interpretation.

When all these facts are kept in mind, and all Scriptures interpreted in harmony with all these principles, there cannot possibly be any misunderstanding of any part of the Bible. Remember this: Take the Bible literally whenever it is at all possible. When the language cannot be taken literally, then we know it is figurative. The we get the literal truth conveyed by the figurative language as if it were expressed in literal language without the use of figures.

Literally speaking, THE WRITERS INKHORN BY HIS SIDE. It was customary in the east for writers to put onto a girdle around their waist the case containing their writing impliments. The inkhorn consisted of two parts: a receptacle for the pens, and a box for the ink. It was made out of ebony, hard wood, brass, copper or silver and of beautiful workmanship. It was about 10 in. long, one and a half inches wide and half an inch deep. The hollow shaft contained pens of reed and a penknife and had a lid (v 2).

Nothing you have said has changed my mind in the least. Just because someone gives me a list of rules I am supposed to use to interpret scripture, that doesn't mean I have to accept those rules as correct.

You can do as you please whether you think they are correct or not? Here's what I said.

"Here is the true method of bible interpertation."

.

I never one time said you need to, or are supposed to follow the rules of interpretation? You can ignore them for all anyone here cares. Many Bible scholars I know use these rules when confronted with a hard to understand doctrin. Its entirely up to you. Have you ever thought, if you took some advice, even a little, from others occasionally you might just learn something you may not have know, or do you truly know it all?

I dont believe anyone here is trying to prove anything, or trying to make out they know more than you? Some people even believe ignorance is bliss????? Tell us your not one of them please!

I choose to let the Holy Spirit be my teacher. He isn't limited to man's rules.

[Guest Butero]

Nope, I would say stay away from tattoo's, only because they don't achive anything, and as this one says, Only God will "Juge" me?

He has to wear that his whole life!

That is pretty bad. Did you ever see that old commercial, where a football player had a big tattoo of his team's logo on his back, only to find out he had just been traded?

[HAZARD]

Someone mentioned to me some years ago there is not one mention of Tattoo's in Scripture. I know it was and has been done and is mentioned in Scripture. In fact God commanded it be done.

"And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the WRITERS INKHORN BY HIS SIDE; And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and AND SET A MARK UPON THE FOREHEADS of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof." (Ezekiel 9:3-4).

This mark was to be put on the faithful ones for their protection when the faithless were destroyed. It showed they belonged to God.

It was an ancient custom in Egypt that a runaway slave was freed from his master if he went to the temple and declared himself up to the god of that place, recieving certain marks upon his person to denote his consecration to the diety he worshiped. Romans marked their soldiers in the hand and their slaves in the forheads. It is clear from Rev. 7:3; 9:4; 14:1 that in the future, 144,000 Jews from all tribes of Israel, except Dan, will have a mark in their foreheads as a sign for protection. It will be the name of God (Rev. 14:1). All the redeemed will be so marked in the next life (Rev. 3:12; 22:4).

The followers of the Beast will also be marked in the foreheads or hands (Rev. 13:16-17; 14:9; 20:4).

I'm not in favour of tattoo's in my life now, but we are created free moral agents and are as such free to choos what we will.

Cheers, Haz.

That was not a tattoo. It was not even a visible mark. God was telling the angel to mark those who belonged to him so they wouldn't be destroyed. It is not like they suddenly had a mark like Cain had placed upon him. It was for God to see, not other people, and there was no ink placed under their skin.

Mate, you can ignore God's Word if you like, doesnt bother me in the slightest.

He called to THE MAN, not the angel, with the INKHORN by his side, and he told him to go mark the men on their foreheads.

Here again is what God said;

And he called TO THE MAN CLOTHED WITH LINEN, which had the WRITERS INKHORN BY HIS SIDE; And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and AND SET A MARK UPON THE FOREHEADS of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof." (Ezekiel 9:3-4). Fairly plain, clear and simple to understand that Scripture. You with with the inkhorn go and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men! (Inkhorn / set a mark / we who underatand and can read plain English see him marking the men with ink!on their foreheads).

I have read that passage repeatedly, and never once did I believe that was a literal mark. I just told that to someone else, and they laughed at the notion it was a tattoo. Some tattoo apologists have claimed Jesus had a tattoo, which is ludicrous, and this is just as absurd to me. I am not ignoring anything. I don't believe it was a literal mark. The only one that could see it was God. It was a spiritual mark. There are a lot of things going on in the spiritual rhelm we cannot see, like there are angels that encamp around us. We don't see them, but they exist. This mark was not literal. It is not like these people went around with a tattoo on their head the rest of their life. If you believe that, more power to you, but I do not!

By the way, the Bible says the earth is God's footstool. Does that mean it is a literal footstool, rather than the planet we dwell on?

"I just told that to someone else, and they laughed at the notion it was a tattoo."

.

I enjoy a good laugh as well, but I rarely laugh about the Scritpures and what they teach.

Here is the true method of bible interpertation. The chief fundamental principle is to gather from the Scriptures themselves the precise meaning the writers intended to convey. Correct interpretation applies to the Bible the same principles, rules, garmmatical process, and exercise of common sense and reason that we apply to other books. In doing this, one must take the Bible as literal when it is at all possible. When a statement is found that it cannot possibly be literal, as Jesus being a "door" or a woman being clothed with the sun and standing on the moon and on her head a crown of twelve stars, or of land animals coming out of the sea, and other statements which are obviously not literal, then we know the language is figurative. In such cases we must get the literal truth conveyed by the figurative language, and the truth intended to be conveyed will be as literal as if it were expressed in literal language without the use of such figures. After all, figurative language expresses literal truth as much as if such figures were not used. In a general sense, the true method of Bible interpretation embraces the following ideas.

1. The primary meaning of words in their common use in a particular age in which they are used, and the importance of synonyms.

2. The grammatical construction and idiomatic perculairities of the languages of the Bible,and the meaning of the context, both immediate and remote.

3. Comparrison of parallel passages on the same subject.

4. The purpose or object of each writer in each particular book.

5. The historical background of each writer and the circumstances under which he wrote.

6. The general plan of the entire Bible, and its moral and spiritual teachings.

7. The agreement of Scripture in its several parts, and its prophecies and their fulfillment.

8. The manners and customs of the particular age and landof each writer.

9. Understanding of how to interpret prophecy, poetry, allegories, symbols, parables, figures of speech, types, and all other forms of human expression.

10. The different classes of people and institutions dealt with in Scripture, and the application of the different principles and rules of interpretation.

When all these facts are kept in mind, and all Scriptures interpreted in harmony with all these principles, there cannot possibly be any misunderstanding of any part of the Bible. Remember this: Take the Bible literally whenever it is at all possible. When the language cannot be taken literally, then we know it is figurative. The we get the literal truth conveyed by the figurative language as if it were expressed in literal language without the use of figures.

Literally speaking, THE WRITERS INKHORN BY HIS SIDE. It was customary in the east for writers to put onto a girdle around their waist the case containing their writing impliments. The inkhorn consisted of two parts: a receptacle for the pens, and a box for the ink. It was made out of ebony, hard wood, brass, copper or silver and of beautiful workmanship. It was about 10 in. long, one and a half inches wide and half an inch deep. The hollow shaft contained pens of reed and a penknife and had a lid (v 2).

Nothing you have said has changed my mind in the least. Just because someone gives me a list of rules I am supposed to use to interpret scripture, that doesn't mean I have to accept those rules as correct.

You can do as you please whether you think they are correct or not? Here's what I said.

"Here is the true method of bible interpertation."

.

I never one time said you need to, or are supposed to follow the rules of interpretation? You can ignore them for all anyone here cares. Many Bible scholars I know use these rules when confronted with a hard to understand doctrin. Its entirely up to you. Have you ever thought, if you took some advice, even a little, from others occasionally you might just learn something you may not have know, or do you truly know it all?

I dont believe anyone here is trying to prove anything, or trying to make out they know more than you? Some people even believe ignorance is bliss????? Tell us your not one of them please!

I choose to let the Holy Spirit be my teacher. He isn't limited to man's rules.

I'm pleased to hear that Butero. So everything you say on this board we can rest assured it comes straight from the Holy Spirit through you, and we wont be led astray by any personal thoughts or interpretations of yours, as well as you wont be led astray by mine because of Him?

So you being led by the Holy Spirit alone and not by any help from men tells me you will know, and be able to tell me, whats being taught by this Scripture spoken by Jesus Christ Himself;

"The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.(John 3:8). Cheers, Haz.

[bornagain2011]

Nope, I would say stay away from tattoo's, only because they don't achive anything, and as this one says, Only God will "Juge" me?

He has to wear that his whole life!

That is pretty bad. Did you ever see that old commercial, where a football player had a big tattoo of his team's logo on his back, only to find out he had just been traded?

epic fail! I love it! He should put a little "d" ontop with an arrow pointing down to where it should go!

[LOVE SONGS]

Didn't Jesus.... sat and ate with sinners. When they saw Him doing so , they called Jesus, a wine- bibber and a glutton.

I am sure the sinners had long hair or shaved heads. They may have had tattoos . Who knows.

No telling what they may have looked like, in those days.

Didn't Paul shave his head .

Just a thought here.

Let God be the judge.

[HAZARD]

Now how about looking like this poor person for all eternity?