Tattoos

[GoldenEagle]

I don't have any tattoos. I guess I always kind of had the following mental image...

When I'm 70 or 80 I don't want to look anything like this.

I decided this before I was even a teenager. So yeah that image did it for me.

[j102]

man i cant stand those arrogant legalist that try to put others under the law- thay dont even keep the law themselves- for those that insist we are under the old testiment law, have you kept it? how many sinners and heathens did you stone to death this week? are all of your clothes that you wear made out of a single material? are you doing your old testiment duty by making a multitude of animal sacrifices? make sure that you lay in the bed from friday sundown until saturday sundown just to be safe that you did no work on the sabbath too.

[Sevenseas]

man i cant stand those arrogant legalist that try to put others under the law- thay dont even keep the law themselves- for those that insist we are under the old testiment law, have you kept it? how many sinners and heathens did you stone to death this week? are all of your clothes that you wear made out of a single material? are you doing your old testiment duty by making a multitude of animal sacrifices? make sure that you lay in the bed from friday sundown until saturday sundown just to be safe that you did no work on the sabbath too.

Really? Can't stand your brothers and sisters in Christ because they disagree with you? You can't stand them?

Some people feel very strongly about this issue. Apparently, so do you

[Sevenseas]

I can understand the view of no tats better than getting one, but hating each other over it shows real immaturity and perhaps one

reason to avoid them

dunno...........

[j102]

man i cant stand those arrogant legalist that try to put others under the law- thay dont even keep the law themselves- for those that insist we are under the old testiment law, have you kept it? how many sinners and heathens did you stone to death this week? are all of your clothes that you wear made out of a single material? are you doing your old testiment duty by making a multitude of animal sacrifices? make sure that you lay in the bed from friday sundown until saturday sundown just to be safe that you did no work on the sabbath too.

Really? Can't stand your brothers and sisters in Christ because they disagree with you? You can't stand them?

Some people feel very strongly about this issue. Apparently, so do you

i'm talking about those who try to put themselves AND others under the old testiment laws, and i just dont mean the ten commandments, i'm talking all old testiment laws. plus they say your wrong and in sin if you dont live like they live. hope that clears up any misunderstanding

P.S. the apostal paul had some pretty harsh things to say about those that would be put back under the law.

[Sevenseas]

man i cant stand those arrogant legalist that try to put others under the law- thay dont even keep the law themselves- for those that insist we are under the old testiment law, have you kept it? how many sinners and heathens did you stone to death this week? are all of your clothes that you wear made out of a single material? are you doing your old testiment duty by making a multitude of animal sacrifices? make sure that you lay in the bed from friday sundown until saturday sundown just to be safe that you did no work on the sabbath too.

Really? Can't stand your brothers and sisters in Christ because they disagree with you? You can't stand them?

Some people feel very strongly about this issue. Apparently, so do you

i'm talking about those who try to put themselves AND others under the old testiment laws, and i just dont mean the ten commandments, i'm talking all old testiment laws. plus they say your wrong and in sin if you dont live like they live. hope that clears up any misunderstanding

P.S. the apostal paul had some pretty harsh things to say about those that would be put back under the law.

If someone wants to live under the law, that is their problem. Your problem, is calling other believers names and saying that you cannot

stand them.

Jesus had some pretty harsh things to say about those who say they love God but hate the ones they can see

Jesus trumps Paul

[j102]

man i cant stand those arrogant legalist that try to put others under the law- thay dont even keep the law themselves- for those that insist we are under the old testiment law, have you kept it? how many sinners and heathens did you stone to death this week? are all of your clothes that you wear made out of a single material? are you doing your old testiment duty by making a multitude of animal sacrifices? make sure that you lay in the bed from friday sundown until saturday sundown just to be safe that you did no work on the sabbath too.

Really? Can't stand your brothers and sisters in Christ because they disagree with you? You can't stand them?

Some people feel very strongly about this issue. Apparently, so do you

i'm talking about those who try to put themselves AND others under the old testiment laws, and i just dont mean the ten commandments, i'm talking all old testiment laws. plus they say your wrong and in sin if you dont live like they live. hope that clears up any misunderstanding

P.S. the apostal paul had some pretty harsh things to say about those that would be put back under the law.

If someone wants to live under the law, that is their problem. Your problem, is calling other believers names and saying that you cannot

stand them.

Jesus had some pretty harsh things to say about those who say they love God but hate the ones they can see

Jesus trumps Paul

but paul and jesus agree 100% on everything when it came to scripture, wouldn't you agree- and maybe i need to be more clear about what i mean- i dont hate the person, what i hate is what they are doing, trying to put believers under a yoke of bondage.

what i stated before is still valid though- about people trying to force others to live under the old testiment law. if someone chooses to live under the law thats up to them. the problem arises when that same person tries to make others do the same, and if they dont go along or agree with them that person then starts to judge and condeme those that dont do as they do.

[Sevenseas]

but paul and jesus agree 100% on everything when it came to scripture, wouldn't you agree- and maybe i need to be more clear about what i mean- i dont hate the person, what i hate is what they are doing, trying to put believers under a yoke of bondage.

what i stated before is still valid though- about people trying to force others to live under the old testiment law. if someone chooses to live under the law thats up to them. the problem arises when that same person tries to make others do the same, and if they dont go along or agree with them that person then starts to judge and condeme those that dont do as they do.

LOL! Paul admitted his partial understanding but I guess you see things differently.

The perfect law is love. Love covers a multitude of sins. That is the only reason any of us can stand before God.

You don't have a valid argument to go against that law

Here are your words and what they mean:

YOU cannot stand those arrogant Christians...your brothers and sisters in Christ...who feel or believe that the OT scripture dealing with tattoos (markings of the dead in particular), is something they respect and want to obey.

They have the nerve to believe something that you do not believe; therefore you cannot stand them.

You believe you have the freedom to tat yourself up one side and down the other and you want the respect of everyone by having them agree with you.

Doesn't that sound absurd? and petty? and childish?

Further, if Paul could let people have it, so can you, by gum and just watch you have at it! That'll work.

Furthermore, Paul and Jesus are equal.

except that Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father and Paul was the first to admit he had imperfect knowledge

whatta drag

Can anyone really force you to live under OT law or are you convicted and whining about it? Don't answer...I don't care...that is yours to deal with

I am simply trying to point out that your freedom and liberty DOES NOT INCLUDE PUTTING OTHER CHRISTIANS IN THEIR PLACE

when you apparently do not know yours.

Been nice. Being nice is up to you. Some, would call it being a mature Christian.

This is something we all need to practice...I agree about OT law....actually those who want to quote it and apply it, are under the

whole law which is impossible to keep. I do not think it is advisable to get a tattoo as a Christian but I cannot take the part of

the Holy Spirit and convict someone. I can only pass along what I have learned and or believe.

I have nothing more to say.