What do guys think about modesty........

[other one]

I would agree JTC. the most alluring female I ever saw in my life was wearing a long emerald green silk dress that was split up one side about six inches above the knee. It wasn't low cut but it just flowed when she walked. Nearly drove me crazy all evening......... I've seen this woman with nothing on many times during our 42 years of marriage, and she's one of the most gorgeous things you could ever meet, but wearing nothing couldn't compare to that evening of dancing in that green dress, and yes, everyone noticed.

We all have things that strike our fancy

One doesn't want to get to the point that an occasional flash from the wife doesn't start your motor though.... even in your sixties.

What a wonderful thing to relate about your wife; she is one lucky woman, O.O.

Actually I'm the lucky one MG....

[freeinnocentspirit]

sadly, i believe most (if not all) young women are keenly aware of the affect their immodest attire has on men. i disagree that 'if they only knew' the thoughts that men were thinking, that maybe they'd reconsider what they wear. the truth is, and it's a depressing truth, if they are NOT getting that reaction from men, the young woman feels like she's failing.

the good news is we grow up. not soon enough to help the young men guard their hearts against their struggle, but we do, eventually, learn the value of being a proverbs 31 kind of woman.

JTC, as for what young men do to cause young women to stumble, i don't think it has much to do with what they wear. it's more in the actions. i think it's much easier for guys to NOT behave provocatively. girls are conditioned from childhood to attract the attention of men. guys have to work harder at it. they have to go out of their way. it's hard to describe, because it can be in the way they lock eyes with a girl. or it can be in a seemingly casual touch. or in the way they say something to the one they're attracted to. it's almost more like an artistic talent that guys have to develop... it's more subtle. girls are all over the place. they're just out there. everything about the way they dress, glance, touch, speak, is screaming for attention.

i really enjoyed the video, nitish. i actually wish i had heard this years ago. like i said, back then i knew the affect i had, and that's what my goal was, i may have reconsidered if i'd realized there were actually GOOD guys out there that i was hurting.

The part I find strange is that I saw something bizarre on the train home. I was sat on a train while a couple in their mid to late thirities where all over each other while standing on the packed out underground train in London (this train is compact and small) . Then I while having my earphones blazing out with music looked up and away from my book (the couple were right in front of me and I noticed people glaring over at my direction thats what made me look up) and I saw everyone looking on with disapproving eyes! I think the whole issue is not just women but both genders, needing attention. I was intrigued to see this mature couple behave this way and i didnt join in with even paying attention.

I love the verse about your eyes are the lamp of your body.. You can control what you look at.

²² “The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy,^[a] your whole body will be full of light. ²³ But if your eyes are unhealthy,^[b] your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!

Matthew 6:22-23

Edited November 23, 2012 by freeinnocentspirit

[Guest LadyC]

well, speaking for myself, i wasn't very mature at 30 either! (nor were the men i dated.)

[enoob57]

Brother Nitish, I absolutely agree with you. But are you aware that today many girls and young women also struggle with lust? They just aren't as vocal about as we are. But I'm asking them to be so.

Girls and you women, please tell us what we do that fires up your lust for us. Maybe it isn't so much how we dress, but I'll bet that's part of it. Tell us men , what you would prefer we men didn’t do because it makes it harder for you to keep your mind on God?

As a single woman I definitely look at men. I really can't think of anything a man could do that would make me think lustful thoughts though; I would have to be in liove with a man to think in those terms. I believe that, for most women, it's the desire to feel secure that drives the hunt for a man. Of course if he looks like George Clooney all bets are off.

tic toc so thats what winds your clock

[GlidingWings]

A Christian man should be more modest. Many guys are afraid to express feelings. Modest due to self pride what he believes a man should be. If he shows too much modesty he thinks that others will call him a sissy and being a weak man.

He thinks that it was only applied to those of the 1920s or 30s when men used such manners in public. Some walk with their pants half way down these days cussing even with little children in his presence, spitting openly on the ground, flirting with women very expressing openly with perhaps even trying to touch her.

That is not a Christian walk at all but only lovers of themselves. And proving no respect for other people how they feel. A Christian should dress decently whether rich or poor not exposing any body parts that promote sexual perversion. Men should be polite in public friendly both in speaking and his behavior. Being honest to everyone he meets. He does not need a half million dollar car to impress his friends or the sexy girlfriend on the planet.

Call it s a sign of weakness as some believe but in the eyes of the Lord this is strength and masculine behaviors. If God is Almighty who works in love who are we to doubt God’s strength? Being modest is being wiser. Modesty does not win the hearts of all people but it does show the kind of discerning God sees in the Heart of Man. When God judges the heart and minds it will count more than people who are impressed than someone bragging about himself and all his things. Character has more right than all the gold on Earth.