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I don't believe we've had a super volcano erupt, so how could we have the data to really know..... do they act like a smaller volcano on a larger scale or is their pattern different..... I don't see how we can know.

Plenty of them have erupted, just not within recorded history. The yellowstone one has erupted 3-5 times that I recall seeing mentioned. There was one in the southeast pacific that science claims created a bottleneck in human history.

Here is a list of known ones.

http://en.wikipedia....super_eruptions

This is the one resulting in a bottleneck.

http://en.wikipedia....astrophe_theory

That is just seeing the aftermath of the eruptions Ayin..... we can't know what happened before to know if it's going to happen again... and if so how far in the future.

As much activity as is going on in the park it's hard to believe that there's a lot of pressure building up.... things go up and things go down. Temp's go up then drop back down. I tis very active I agree, but I don't see a lot of pressure buliding up. My personal fears if I really have any would be that the sun would do something crazy to our magnitosphere that would cause the problem. I know one of the later erruptions showed a pole shift in the magma flow...... that's a real problem.

That could trigger the prophecy about the sun burning stuff up and killing a whole bunch of us. Whatever the case, things are certainly not boring these days. Excitement at least every week and down to most days. I can't think of the last day I thought was a simple bore.


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I dont fear any of these. Its all in His control.


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I know you have broad shoulders, you can take it.

If in a court of Law; the preponderance of the evidence would point to an active volcano, thus dispelling the idea that it is a theory. Your argument is based on speculations of error on those who are trained in this field and have studied such events for years. Good try though, so you get a thumbs up. :t2: ....

It wouldnt work. Yes, they have an caldera, they have evidence of past explosians, what they dont have is magma, and the fact that hot water springs are found in other areas that dont have any evidence of volcanic activity. They cannot prove it 100% without magma, or an actual eruption. Hence, its in the theory stage. There is evidence it is a volcano, but not impirical, so henceforth it is theory, not fact. No one has ever seen it erupt, and they have never actually found magma to prove that it is still a volcano. Without these, they cannot prove it, and neither can you.


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I dont fear any of these. Its all in His control.

the only thing I fear, is me..... will I live up to what I should be????


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Using various means to determine its size, they can also tell when something is water versus something denser like magma. Really pat, you are in quite a state of denial.


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http://www.photovolcanica.com/VolcanoInfo/Yellowstone/Yellowstone.html

A fairly good write up of Yellowstone and it's surrounding area....


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I know you have broad shoulders, you can take it.

If in a court of Law; the preponderance of the evidence would point to an active volcano, thus dispelling the idea that it is a theory. Your argument is based on speculations of error on those who are trained in this field and have studied such events for years. Good try though, so you get a thumbs up. :t2: ....

It wouldnt work. Yes, they have an caldera, they have evidence of past explosians, what they dont have is magma, and the fact that hot water springs are found in other areas that dont have any evidence of volcanic activity. They cannot prove it 100% without magma, or an actual eruption. Hence, its in the theory stage. There is evidence it is a volcano, but not impirical, so henceforth it is theory, not fact. No one has ever seen it erupt, and they have never actually found magma to prove that it is still a volcano. Without these, they cannot prove it, and neither can you.

Conversations like this remind me of something my Grandmother told me as a child. "You can lead a horse to water but you can not make it drink". I've posted all the evidence that would be required by your law court, to rule that it is not a theory it is a fact. If people require 100% proof it, they may wait for it or they will have to get the answer from God. However, getting an answer form God requires Faith, which has little to do with human proof. I pray that if it really does get ready to exploded, the right people that God has provided us with are able to convince people to leave, so they will not be harmed.

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Using various means to determine its size, they can also tell when something is water versus something denser like magma. Really pat, you are in quite a state of denial.

yes, and using the same means, they can tell its 6 million years old. Seriously jade? Yes, they know the density of magma-but in order to "know" that thats magma down there, they have to make some pretty good assumptions, like for instance, how far under the magma is, how deep the magma chamber is. Key word here is assumptions, because again, theyve never found it-not with core samples, not with anything like that. they can say "oh we know the dimensions" yes, but that doesnt prove anything-water fills spaces, it can just as easily push up at a faster rate. Is it water? probably not, but my point is this, they havent seen any magma, they dont know how big the underground chamber is-or was originally-they have no way of knowing. They are taking what they know of other volcanos, and bringing it to this one, and assuming, that this is the same as the others, and it may very well maybe a valid assumption, but it is an assumption nonetheless-not proven fact, and will not be so until they find magma, or it erupts.

I mean no offense, I never said there was never any evidence that there wasnt a volcano, I never even said it wasnt, I said its not proven, by their scientific method, its not. Im not denying anything, Im simply pointing out that its not proven as fact by the scientific method-it is still theory.

Basic breakdown of the scientific method (very simplified)

Formulate a question, in this case, what heats the geysers at yellowstone

formulate a hypothesis, in otherwords, what you think might cause it

look for evidence of the hypothesis, through tests, predictions, if no evidence is found, find another. If evidence is found, it turns into theory

theory, means that the evidence strongly supports the hypothesis, and is most likely true, but theres still some unknowns and it isnt proven yet.

Fact, or law is when all the unknowns have become known, and it is proven beyond the shadow of doubt. Least this was the basic concept I was taught. It goes from hypothesis, to theory, to fact. As you can see, they have gone through the hypothesis stage-asking the why, they have done the research, which strongly indicates that it is a volcano, which puts it in the theory stage, but they havent found all the pieces yet, keeping it from the proven stage.

They can use long words and all of that jumbo, but by the scientific method-it is a theory, a well substantiated theory, but still a theory, which is all Ive been saying all along. Im not denying anything-Im pointing out that they don't know everything, if that makes me a heretic, so be it, I mean, who am I to point out that mankind is flawed and doesn't know everything. Im sorry I dont just assume that since they have a PHD in front of their name that they must know everything. Im sorry, that since I obviously dont have million dollar satillites and fancy computers, that I must not be qualified to point out the obvious. All I said was I disagreed with the labeling, not the premise I wasnt denying anything, I was pointing out what should be obvious. In any case, Im done with this discussion, it serves no real end.


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Scientist say that this is the largest volcano ever on earth. That is why they name it a supervolcano.

With so many things going on in the world concerning the weather in the air, earth, and sea.

They are monitoring this volcano closely.


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I give up..... someone doesn't seem to understand yellowstone, and I don't think it's the USGS.

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