Obama Bows To Islam

[MorningGlory]

It is possible that God is using the political realm to bring about the prophecy, as He did in the past.

I agree that no matter who is elected God's will is coming.

Couldn't agree more, joi. Our time is about up and, personally, I'll be overjoyed to have the King of Kings make things right.

[other one]

MG, in my opinion it doesn't much matter because the truth of who and what Obama stands for is plain to anyone who is willing to see it.

Others may bury their head in the sand but those of us who know what is coming are bracing for the jolt. I keep wondering when we will see a peace agreement signed to kick off the 7 year tribulation.

What do you MEAN by that? Obama is the A/C? Or what? I'm one of those who DOESN'T have their head buried....either in the sand or the crazy C.T. blogs. So how does he stand for islam when he's been declared their enemy? Please explain because I'm lost.

Yay MG!!! I don't always agree with your politics but I appreciate the logic you have brought to this

Well, yeah, the logic just isn't there. Obama is not the greatest danger we are facing; he's just a man. The real threat is out there and we don't know where it is....yet. Too many are focusing on the political side of where we are now. What's coming is outside the political realm and, no matter who is elected, it will come.

and that won't arrive until the big war is over and we'er all sick of religion. The devil has put the world in a position that we are going to have to defend ourselves from Islam or die..... The only real way out for us is to convert Islam to the understanding of who Jesus really is.... the more we hate them the tighter the devils plan tightens around our necks. But we can't just let them take over either......

[georgedrw81]

It is possible that God is using the political realm to bring about the prophecy, as He did in the past.

I agree that no matter who is elected God's will is coming.

We look for signs on God's intentions. However, focusing to spread His word and living a life like Jesus is more important. In our everyday life we deal with mini-Obamas and mini-extremist but do overcome them with His help. We are thrown to the lions to be devoured but our faith in Him remains unshakeable. God's will is already here but some have yet to realise it.

Blessings

[nebula]

To actually show it in context, Obama also mentioned in his full speech that leaders should not attack any religion... please stop cherry picking from speeches... Thanks!

He rebuked them for mistreating other religions, true. However, there is something chlling about the President of the US saying:

”The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet, Mohammad.” Context or not.

is there a difference in disagreeing with Mohammad and slandering him???? Is the president trying to tell us something that most Conservatives are not getting.

I saw a good part of that video, and it really did upset me a bit for the people who made it must have understood what it would do...... I mean really... Walid Shoebat tells me that the person who made the film is a good friend of his cousin that is a knows terrorist...

We should be explaining to Islam how Mohammad might have been deceived and explain who Jesus is to them and give them a chance to understand....... but all this video is going to do is to make them mad and give them a terrible resolve for getting revenge.

Considering how his administration has let the Muslim Brotherhood remain within our government, one has to wonder if he's with them or just palin stupid.

OK, so the president should make a statement declaring how stupid it was to produce a film filled with lies that he knew would incite rage.

Don't proclaim. "The future belongs to [those who submit to Islam]."

Do you understand the difference?

[LOVE SONGS]

To actually show it in context, Obama also mentioned in his full speech that leaders should not attack any religion... please stop cherry picking from speeches... Thanks!

He rebuked them for mistreating other religions, true. However, there is something chlling about the President of the US saying:

”The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet, Mohammad.” Context or not.

is there a difference in disagreeing with Mohammad and slandering him???? Is the president trying to tell us something that most Conservatives are not getting.

I saw a good part of that video, and it really did upset me a bit for the people who made it must have understood what it would do...... I mean really... Walid Shoebat tells me that the person who made the film is a good friend of his cousin that is a knows terrorist...

We should be explaining to Islam how Mohammad might have been deceived and explain who Jesus is to them and give them a chance to understand....... but all this video is going to do is to make them mad and give them a terrible resolve for getting revenge.

Considering how his administration has let the Muslim Brotherhood remain within our government, one has to wonder if he's with them or just palin stupid.

OK, so the president should make a statement declaring how stupid it was to produce a film filled with lies that he knew would incite rage.

Don't proclaim. "The future belongs to [those who submit to Islam]."

Do you understand the difference?

yes...I can read inbetween the lines he uses with that.

You are rightly on what you said.

On Glen Becks' web site ...they are mentioning the same thing.

Thank God people did notice Obamas' comment.

[other one]

To actually show it in context, Obama also mentioned in his full speech that leaders should not attack any religion... please stop cherry picking from speeches... Thanks!

He rebuked them for mistreating other religions, true. However, there is something chlling about the President of the US saying:

”The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet, Mohammad.” Context or not.

is there a difference in disagreeing with Mohammad and slandering him???? Is the president trying to tell us something that most Conservatives are not getting.

I saw a good part of that video, and it really did upset me a bit for the people who made it must have understood what it would do...... I mean really... Walid Shoebat tells me that the person who made the film is a good friend of his cousin that is a knows terrorist...

We should be explaining to Islam how Mohammad might have been deceived and explain who Jesus is to them and give them a chance to understand....... but all this video is going to do is to make them mad and give them a terrible resolve for getting revenge.

Considering how his administration has let the Muslim Brotherhood remain within our government, one has to wonder if he's with them or just palin stupid.

OK, so the president should make a statement declaring how stupid it was to produce a film filled with lies that he knew would incite rage.

Don't proclaim. "The future belongs to [those who submit to Islam]."

Do you understand the difference?

The president did not proclaim that the future belongs to those who submit to Islam...... actually if you take his speech as a whole he said that there is no place for true Islam in this world. He said that there is no place for people who are intolerant of others, which is the core basis of Islam.

Some of you see him as a Muslim, but he is a globalist, working for the globalist movement very diligent Our problem with Islam has run rampant in the last 4 presidents. The Muslim Brotherhood has been in this country since the early 1950's and none of the presidents has done anything to stop them from getting where they are today..... so why should we focus so much on Obama..... he's just doing the same thing that George Bush and Bill Clinton did concerning Islam and he's even getting help from Bill Clinton's wife. Are they all Muslims at heart??? I don't think so.

The problem I see is that very few people in the US actually take the time to read and understand what true Islam is..... and we're so tied up being politically correct that they won't learn, and when you try and tell them, they are forced by political correctness not to listen.

How many people do you know that actually understands that Islam is not really a religion, but is a whole different civilization. And one that is at it's core intolerant of any other.

Now before you all decide that I like the president, let me say that I don't...... but he's doing the same thing with Islam that has been going on since the early 1950's shortly after the Ottoman empire was desolved and the Caliphate was detroyed. The difference is that it's getting very close to open war with them..... We're at the stage now where it's like coming home from the store and finding a balck bear in your kitchen. You shouldn't poke it with a stick to see if it's awake or try to get it to leave..... and this dumb movie was nothing more than that...... Bears in this situation heed to be left alone and if they won't leave on thier on need to be exterminated.... but should we as followers of Christ do such a thing.

[nebula]

OK, so the president should make a statement declaring how stupid it was to produce a film filled with lies that he knew would incite rage.

Don't proclaim. "The future belongs to [those who submit to Islam]."

Do you understand the difference?

The president did not proclaim that the future belongs to those who submit to Islam......

From the perspective of Islam, to cut off from the world those who would slander "the Prophet Muhammad" is submitting to Islam.

That's why I put that piece in brackets.

Do you disagree that this is how a Muslim would interpret this sentence?

actually if you take his speech as a whole he said that there is no place for true Islam in this world. He said that there is no place for people who are intolerant of others, which is the core basis of Islam.

No, he did not say they is no place in the world for intolerance. He only said that those who make a fuss about Mohammed being slandered should give fair treatment to other religions.

Yes, it goes against Islam, but it is not giving other religions the same deference.

Some of you see him as a Muslim, but he is a globalist, working for the globalist movement very diligent Our problem with Islam has run rampant in the last 4 presidents. The Muslim Brotherhood has been in this country since the early 1950's and none of the presidents has done anything to stop them from getting where they are today..... so why should we focus so much on Obama..... he's just doing the same thing that George Bush and Bill Clinton did concerning Islam and he's even getting help from Bill Clinton's wife. Are they all Muslims at heart??? I don't think so.

I don't know where the man's heart is religiously, but he does seem to give a special deference to Islam.

That said, I don't deny the ulterior globalist motives.

The paragraph has two parts: 1 sentence that appeals to the Muslims. Followed by a sentence or two that placates to other religions. The two are not congruent with each other, nor can they be grouped together as a whole statement. We can't think that the second part softens the impact of the first part. The first sentence is too potent.

The problem I see is that very few people in the US actually take the time to read and understand what true Islam is..... and we're so tied up being politically correct that they won't learn, and when you try and tell them, they are forced by political correctness not to listen.

How many people do you know that actually understands that Islam is not really a religion, but is a whole different civilization. And one that is at it's core intolerant of any other.

Not denying that.

But Obama's words are either warning signs of where he intends to lead us while playing politics (appearing to really be on your side when he's not), or he's doing a lousy job playing middle man.

Now before you all decide that I like the president, let me say that I don't...... but he's doing the same thing with Islam that has been going on since the early 1950's shortly after the Ottoman empire was desolved and the Caliphate was detroyed. The difference is that it's getting very close to open war with them..... We're at the stage now where it's like coming home from the store and finding a balck bear in your kitchen. You shouldn't poke it with a stick to see if it's awake or try to get it to leave..... and this dumb movie was nothing more than that...... Bears in this situation heed to be left alone and if they won't leave on thier on need to be exterminated.... but should we as followers of Christ do such a thing.

Other One, the whole film is a crock - low budget, unknown - and yet someone translates it, or portions of it, into Arabic and makes sure it is seen to enough people in the Arab world to incite violence. Appearances are pointing to a set-up. If so, then Obama is playing into or playing along with that set-up. This is what the evidence seems to indicate.

[joi]

georgedrw81, good posting.

Other one, just this morning hubby and I were discussing that Obama is working to bring about the plans of the globalists.

One time he says he is Christian and then he shows deference to the Islam, probably because he is really more familiar

and comfortable there, having been brought up in it.

He seems to delight in playing one against the other, so to speak, because he realizes he has the two sides at war with

one another, and he cares not. He is pursuing his own agenda and feels his fancy foot work keeps us in a state of confusion as to what

his real intentions are.

[MorningGlory]

The president did not proclaim that the future belongs to those who submit to Islam...... actually if you take his speech as a whole he said that there is no place for true Islam in this world. He said that there is no place for people who are intolerant of others, which is the core basis of Islam.

Some of you see him as a Muslim, but he is a globalist, working for the globalist movement very diligent Our problem with Islam has run rampant in the last 4 presidents. The Muslim Brotherhood has been in this country since the early 1950's and none of the presidents has done anything to stop them from getting where they are today..... so why should we focus so much on Obama..... he's just doing the same thing that George Bush and Bill Clinton did concerning Islam and he's even getting help from Bill Clinton's wife. Are they all Muslims at heart??? I don't think so.

The problem I see is that very few people in the US actually take the time to read and understand what true Islam is..... and we're so tied up being politically correct that they won't learn, and when you try and tell them, they are forced by political correctness not to listen.

How many people do you know that actually understands that Islam is not really a religion, but is a whole different civilization. And one that is at it's core intolerant of any other.

Now before you all decide that I like the president, let me say that I don't...... but he's doing the same thing with Islam that has been going on since the early 1950's shortly after the Ottoman empire was desolved and the Caliphate was detroyed. The difference is that it's getting very close to open war with them..... We're at the stage now where it's like coming home from the store and finding a balck bear in your kitchen. You shouldn't poke it with a stick to see if it's awake or try to get it to leave..... and this dumb movie was nothing more than that...... Bears in this situation heed to be left alone and if they won't leave on thier on need to be exterminated.... but should we as followers of Christ do such a thing.

I'm impressed, O.O. Most conservatives won't admit the truth even if they KNOW Obama did, or didn't do, something if it makes him look bad. And, you're right, Obama's islam stance is no different than the last few occupants of the White House. He is NOT a muslim. I take umbrage at this statement though....."Now before you all decide that I like the president, let me say that I don't". I understand that you really don't but, if you did, would you worry about others here knowing that? Is the U.S. becoming a country where people fear letting their true beliefs be known? A resounding yes to that one....there are members of Worthy who support Obama and keep that fact to themselves because they don't want to be ostracized. That is truly sad.

[Guest]

I am undecided to go vote. Seems... Obama is ahead of Romney in the states.

That is what the MSM what's you to think.