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Okay, I'll take everything everyone said to me with a grain of salt. Heh-Heh! Heh!....Grain of salt...See what I....did...there...? Ahhh forget it.

AHEM! Let me address a few things here, folks!

 

other one:

If you are having demonic visits in your house, there is a reason.

I never said it was demonic.

 

LadyC:

sounds like a form of witch craft to me.

Typical. I've found that often when Christians don't understand something, they either fear it or label it as witchcraft.

 

Love Songs:

Here in the south if you find some salt near your door or near or inside your house. There is someone trying to cast a spell on you. Witches do use salt for that purpose.

You can get the details on it from a pastor, or another christian that knows of this. They can help you.

This is how I clean or rid any demons that may be around in my house....

This has nothing to do with witchcraft or witches. And again, I did not mention demons, did I? I do not put any faith in pastors. There are too many corrupt ones. And by suggesting another Christian, you are implying that my Faith is weak. Quite the contrary, Love Songs. My Faith is more solid and stronger than most Christians I've encountered.

your friend Jacob:

While this appears to be working, it's only a fluke. Very thin line to be walking to be honest. While your intentions are good, and you would do anything to comfort your child, you need to rely on the Lord.

Funny. I didn't see you at my house. You haven't witnessed what's been going on in this house. So what makes you so sure this was a fluke? How can you try to explain something to me when I was the one who witnessed it?

Also, what makes you think that I am NOT relying on the Lord? I rely on the Lord every day. He's proven to me countless times that He is there, protecting and providing for me and my family.

Matthitjah:

Grace to you,

I'm not sure why your husband would revert to his days in the dark side to protect from the dark side. A kingdom divided will not stand and satan will not work to throw out satan. Whatever this was is likely playing games with you. I wouldn't mess with it like that.

Why not merely plead the precious and powerful Blood of our Lord and Savior and cast out whatever was bothering the child?

Afterall, every knee must bow and every tongue must confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. He has put to shame the principalities and spiritual powers that rule in dark and high places. He has defeated them and reigns over them.

What makes you think that my husband is reverting to his days from the dark side? This has nothing to do with the dark side. You suggest casting out whatever was bothering the child. {{{{ Removed curse word. }}}} What do you think we did? We did just that - that's what we did. By putting the salt there, we provided a protective barrier around our child. No "spells", no crazy words or chants, or calling on anyone other than God to also help protect our child.

What are you going to do if a person or a dog was going to attack you? Stand there and do nothing other than pray? No. I think you would pray and then either run or try to defend yourself. That's what we did. We prayed and also did our part to help protect our child.

GoldenEagle:

This seems like a form of witchcraft.

I perceive this as another Christian who doesn't understand something so they just slap a "witchcraft" sticker on it.

little brown church:

I hadn’t heard of this till the question was posted, so did some looking into it. The superstitious and those into palm reading etc. . . use salt to keep evil away. The catholic church also believes in using salt to exercise demons and keep thieves and other evil away They use several scriptures to explain this, but these two scriptures appear to be the main reasons for the ritual. 2 kings 2:19 and another is on Matthew 5: 13. the salt is sprinkled around bedrooms and doors/windows.

Oh please! i'm not superstitious nor am i into fortune telling, palm reading, etc. and please, don't get me started on catholics. they are not Christians. {{{{ Removed attack on Christians. We are a non-denominational ministry. }}}}

OldShep:

I recommend Trusting in Jesus, and watching your child she could be coming down with a cold.

Again, not into the witchcraft thing, thank you very much. And no, she's not coming down with a cold.

redroses42:

the only way i use salt is on my food and in cooking

very good, redroses. God created many things on this earth to use for the good. Tea leaves dried makes tea. Various herbs are for soothing and healing, and cleansing. Salt is also natural and can be used for protection.

Fez:

Honestly? And to be perfectly blunt?

Using something like salt, or "holy water" informs me that there is a lack of faith in that Jesus is the only answer.

If He had wanted us to sprinkle salt He would have told us.

So my advice? Pray.

What makes you think I don't pray to God every night for the protection of my family. And believe me, there is no lack of Faith in my Christian walk. I've been through more testings and trials in my walk with Christ than most Christians who are still taking baby steps in their lives.

You think that if God wanted us to sprinkle salt, he would have told us. Not everything we know and do is listed in the Bible. {{{{ Removed disrespectful attack on the Bible. }}}}

sevenseas:

Casting spells or using some sort of barrier (there are quite a few) to keep witches away is not like having a bowl of chicken soup.

First of all, there was no "spell casting" thank you very much!! and i said nothing about witches in my original post!

What it is, is using magik and superstition...depending on the person invoking its protection through ceremony or belief....I agree

there is no magic involved here, sevenseas. it's sprinkling of salt. what's so magical about that? it's just a natural defense.

with those who state that prayer is the answer and I would admonish you to stop this practice immediately. I suffered badly

from fear of the dark and things that go bump in the night when I was child...I believe it was hereditary and if, your husband has

actually stopped his magik apart from the salt, it is most likely hereditary in your baby's case.

hereditary! LOL i should think not, thank you.

Why does the salt work? It works because you believe it will work. The problem is that it is an invitation from the devil to use

more magik to get results.

my Faith is strong in Jesus - the devil has absolutely no foothold in my life, believe me! You say the salt works only because I believe it will work.

So when you sit in a chair, it's going to hold you because you believe it will. Gasp! That's not magic is it??!! LOL

There is nothing complicated that you need to know. You simply need to use the word of God, the Bible, against this activity

and your husband should also examine his own self and determine why he would invoke witchcraft if he is a Christian.

My husband is not using witchcraft, thank you very much. there's nothing witchcraft about it.

You have a two fold problem in your home...your baby is suffering and for some reason, a Christian has decided that a little magik is OK if the blood of Christ is not enough.

using salt in this way is not magic.

Your problem will get worse and your husband has opened a door that is better left shut.

clearly, you don't know enough about opening and closing doors. and by the way, as i mentioned already. the salt worked. the problem is over.

In the Old Testament, God banned the used of spells and incantations and forbid a witch a to live. It is a serious offense as it

invokes demons in the place of the Holy Spirit.

{{{{Removed Personal attack. }}}} There was no spells and incantations used here, thank you.

I pray you realize what is really going on and either consult your pastor if you attend church or remove the salt and pray over your

child and ask your husband to repent of his magik.

people put way too much Faith in pastors. they're regular human beings like us and not any more godly than the next Christian. and don't insult me by saying that my husband needs to repent of his magic. this is not magic.

I know this sounds a little harsh, but even the smallest dabbling in this sort of thing can result in problems that are far worse than

any you are currently experiencing.

your words leave a bitter taste in my mouth.

Gerioke:

I have a book of home remedies using salt and vinegar. I don't think it's a book of witchcraft though

Thank you. God gave us many natural things that He created for us to use for our own good.

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Posted

Okay, I'll take everything everyone said to me with a grain of salt. Heh-Heh! Heh!....Grain of salt...See what I....did...there...? Ahhh forget it.

AHEM! Let me address a few things here, folks!

<snip> (edited for brevity)

I don't want to accuse you of anything here, but you asked regarding using salt for protection:

has anyone ever done this? what do you think of this? i would not be surprised to have replies from people on both sides of the fence.

and you got answers. Many of these replies are from mature believers who have been here for years, and yet your replies seem somewhat defensive. If I'm off base, though, I'll apologize now. :)


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Posted

Okay, I'll take everything everyone said to me with a grain of salt. Heh-Heh! Heh!....Grain of salt...See what I....did...there...? Ahhh forget it.

AHEM! Let me address a few things here, folks!

<snip> (edited for brevity)

I don't want to accuse you of anything here, but you asked regarding using salt for protection:

has anyone ever done this? what do you think of this? i would not be surprised to have replies from people on both sides of the fence.

and you got answers. Many of these replies are from mature believers who have been here for years, and yet your replies seem somewhat defensive. If I'm off base, though, I'll apologize now. :)

no worries. i'm pleased that this post has had this much discussion. it's interesting to read the responses from people and i don't mind people defending their own posts the way i have mine. everyone has their own opinion and belief about these things.


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ok, heres the question of the hour, salt for protection from what? You say your husband used them as protection from "dark forces" as a child, and the assumption is, the "dark forces" are whats bothering your child. Since all darkness, comes from Satan, then the logical assumption is demonic activity, and the only protection from demonic activity, is Jesus, not salt-regardless of whether its witchcracft, or not, and putting ones faith in things as salt-if its working, its because someone wants you to put your faith in something other then God for protection.


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Before this thread goes any further I'd strongly advise people to read this thread by OneLight regarding a word from the Ministry Team:

God bless,

GE


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your friend Jacob:

While this appears to be working, it's only a fluke. Very thin line to be walking to be honest. While your intentions are good, and you would do anything to comfort your child, you need to rely on the Lord.

Funny. I didn't see you at my house. You haven't witnessed what's been going on in this house. So what makes you so sure this was a fluke? How can you try to explain something to me when I was the one who witnessed it?

Also, what makes you think that I am NOT relying on the Lord? I rely on the Lord every day. He's proven to me countless times that He is there, protecting and providing for me and my family.

Hello Fairmaiden,

I did not mean for you to take my response as an attack, not once did I reflect upon your faith in Christ. But I apologize for the confusion. The part about the "fluke" is the whole ordeal, this is not going to be long lasting. It may be days, or it might be years, before it blows over and more problems arise. But mark my words, it will happen. I posted what I posted, trying to be sincere for your family's well being. So sorry for being concerned.

Now lets reflect upon the topic name "anyone used salt as protection?" If your intentions of looking elsewhere for "protection" was other than the Lord then why rely upon a "remedy?"

Now this is where I am most confused, you say you claimed no such thing as to a demonic spirit in your house, but what else would be troubling your child other than that?

Here is what you said, "he thought that someone or something was bothering her."

Proverbs 3:5

"Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;"

Proverbs 28:26

"He who trusts in himself is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom is kept safe."

Isaiah 41:10

"Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand"

I am not pointing at you directly or at this instance, but with anything, if you take it before God your trust in Him is lost. With all things, yes even the small, were to trust in Him. For instance If I were to be going through hardship (which I am) and if I were to pick up some type of self medicated (drinking, smoking etc.) to be taken out of my suffering, am I relying on the Lord? Or am I escaping my instances and putting my self before God, taking away my hope in Him that things will get better, taking away my steadfast and sober-mind. I know I am comparing two things that do not have any resemblance but the meaning behind it is in comparison. With all things, ALL things were to rely on God and not our own understanding. What we see is good, is not the same principle as the goodness God sees and knows.

If you don't mind, instead of assuming things I'm going to outright as you what your perception is.

1. Why did your husband "know" to use salt?

2. Why did you go off of your husbands "hunch" instead of prayer and a blessing?

3. What is your interpretation (scripture wise) where God permits us to use worldly things for the spiritual?

4. Does salt to you seem like a tool that Christ gives us (if so please provide reasoning and scripture backing) or just something you came across.

Sorry for so many questions...Thank you ahead of time when/if you answer.

God bless you


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Grace to you,

I can understand your defensive nature but I'm not sure why you feel we've attacked you. You asked and we responded. Can you back up the use of salt to ward off whatever you thought was bothering your child with Scripture?

I'd also be interested in your testimony.

You did mention that your husband remembered being bothered as a child by dark forces and that he dabbled in these things and that he had a hunch and used a past practice. Or at least inferred it.

What do you and your spouse suppose was bothering your child?

What makes you think that my husband is reverting to his days from the dark side? This has nothing to do with the dark side. You suggest casting out whatever was bothering the child. {{{{ Removed curse word. }}}} What do you think we did? We did just that - that's what we did. By putting the salt there, we provided a protective barrier around our child. No "spells", no crazy words or chants, or calling on anyone other than God to also help protect our child.

What are you going to do if a person or a dog was going to attack you? Stand there and do nothing other than pray? No. I think you would pray and then either run or try to defend yourself. That's what we did. We prayed and also did our part to help protect our child.

I have been attacked by several dogs at once and I have stood my ground and rebuked them in the name of Jesus. They actually turned tail and walked away. Really all it would take with dogs is to let them know that you are not afraid of them. Knowing the nature of a predator and also being heavily involved in spiritual warfare for some time now I understand the nature of an attack from that side. Usually it is all fear and intimidation. If you know the Lord you have nothing to fear. Note, I did not say to turn your back on them though. They are wiley and will hurt you especially if you are afraid. Like an animal,even a dog, they thrive on fear.

Again, I understand that you did what you thought was good to protect the child but I would again ask where in scripture we see anyone advising the practice that you employed and how it has any standing whatsoever in the spiritual realm that God governs and reigns over.

Please, don't be offended, that wasn't the intent. Sincerely, most here just want to help.

Peace,

Dave


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What an interesting read. I have a 'salt' story of my own but not exactly using it for protection. One evening I went to bed and as I tried to go to sleep my tooth was bothering me. I laid in bed and prayed for healing and help with my bothersome tooth. I was told to get up and fill a glass with luke warm water with salt in it and rinse my mouth. I didn't question it but simply got up and did what the inner voice guided me to do. I slept like a baby without any discomfort. God is good.

Gary


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Salt water rinses are what dentists recommend when you have dental work done and need healing.


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Salt water rinses are what dentists recommend when you have dental work done and need healing.

Cool, didn't know that. I bet I know who originally gave them the idea ;)

Gary

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