Bill O'Reilly Says Jesus Was Killed Because Of.....

[Guest man]

Does anyone care to comment on the context of what he was saying?

Neb, I listened to the video and I don't think he really said enough for me to understand the context of what he's getting at.... I would have to think that there is information that I've never heard of to make a statement like that.

Again, what he said was:

"Do you know why Jesus was killed by the Romans?"

"...by the Romans" is directing the questions for why the Roman soldiers would have come after Jesus to arrest him and so on.

That's the context.

I don't understand what you're getting at. Doesn't "Jesus was killed because of taxes" answer that question?

[other one]

Does anyone care to comment on the context of what he was saying?

Neb, I listened to the video and I don't think he really said enough for me to understand the context of what he's getting at.... I would have to think that there is information that I've never heard of to make a statement like that.

Again, what he said was:

"Do you know why Jesus was killed by the Romans?"

"...by the Romans" is directing the questions for why the Roman soldiers would have come after Jesus to arrest him and so on.

That's the context.

I understand that Neb, I just don't have a clue as to how Taxes figure into it.... I know that the Romans were taxing the Jewish people, but that's really not pertaining to Jesus death as far as I have read anything.

[other one]

Does anyone care to comment on the context of what he was saying?

Neb, I listened to the video and I don't think he really said enough for me to understand the context of what he's getting at.... I would have to think that there is information that I've never heard of to make a statement like that.

Again, what he said was:

"Do you know why Jesus was killed by the Romans?"

"...by the Romans" is directing the questions for why the Roman soldiers would have come after Jesus to arrest him and so on.

That's the context.

I don't understand what you're getting at. Doesn't "Jesus was killed because of taxes" answer that question?

It would be nice to understand how he came to that conclusion.

[Guest man]

Does anyone care to comment on the context of what he was saying?

Neb, I listened to the video and I don't think he really said enough for me to understand the context of what he's getting at.... I would have to think that there is information that I've never heard of to make a statement like that.

Again, what he said was:

"Do you know why Jesus was killed by the Romans?"

"...by the Romans" is directing the questions for why the Roman soldiers would have come after Jesus to arrest him and so on.

That's the context.

I don't understand what you're getting at. Doesn't "Jesus was killed because of taxes" answer that question?

It would be nice to understand how he came to that conclusion.

Personally, I think he's just trying to generate interest in his next book.

[nebula]

Does anyone care to comment on the context of what he was saying?

Neb, I listened to the video and I don't think he really said enough for me to understand the context of what he's getting at.... I would have to think that there is information that I've never heard of to make a statement like that.

Again, what he said was:

"Do you know why Jesus was killed by the Romans?"

"...by the Romans" is directing the questions for why the Roman soldiers would have come after Jesus to arrest him and so on.

That's the context.

I understand that Neb, I just don't have a clue as to how Taxes figure into it.... I know that the Romans were taxing the Jewish people, but that's really not pertaining to Jesus death as far as I have read anything.

I don't either. But the point is the original statement claimed O'Reilly said Jesus was killed because of taxes as if it were his religious, or non-religious, claim on the matter.

But the context is he claims this is why the Romans had Jesus put to death. Thus, he wasn't actually making some anti-Biblical claim as far as why the Sanhedrin had Jesus put to death, or why Jesus gave over His life.

Thus, my point is that we should critique him on what his actual claim is.

Granted, I'm not comfortable with him writing a political book based on "the passion of Christ," but let us not erect a straw man in this.

[JCISGD]

Wernt the Romans were only placating the Pharisee`s demands?

Either way its possibly true, as the "love of money" is the root of all kinds of evil.

[JohnD]

I am not a B.O. fan. Never really cared for him.

Funny how people are always looking for a man or woman to follow. (Not meaning you, O.P.)

I am speaking in general.

An to a man, every leader has failed and proven to be a frail, weak, vulnerable human being like the rest of us.

Oh, some may hide it for a time.

But they all fail.

Except for Jesus.

Why he isn't good enough for people to follow is beyond me.

Jesus expects too much from us, is my guess.

I mean, saved by grace alone through faith alone... and if we confess our sins he is faithful to forgive us (keep on forgiving us the Greek says)... and he who confesses and forsakes his sin shall have mercy...

So in one sense he doesn't expect too much from us (knowing what rotters we really are).

But in another sense, he expects us not to hoard wealth in the last days... to help the poor the sick the imprisoned the naked... to become the ministers each and every one of us are called to be as a kingdom of priests...

You know... in other words he asks too much of us...

We'd rather pass out duty bound responsibility to the Lord who saved us at great personal cost... onto some "professional" Christian like the pastor or staff... while we live like we want to in the self made kingdoms of greed and leisure and ease... show up on Sundays occasionally... IF pastor so-n-so doesn't offend us or bore us...

Al too familiar...

[JohnD]

Bill O'Reilly this...

Rush Limbaugh that...

Anne Coulter the other...

While they were demonizing the Left wing all these years the greedy rich stole our nation (America) out from under us!

What does that say about them?

[JohnD]

I could easily list Church leaders who essentially rolled out the red carpet for those who stole America as much as their 501 C3 allowed them to... making it appear that their way is God's way.

Funny, when you read the Bible for God's side of these things... he's interested in looking out for the poor. Not in such a way that it is a write off from taxes but in a real honest effort in finances and food and medicine and shelter.

And not hand outs either. He told the Jews not to reap to the very edge of their properties to allow the edges and the corners for the poor to work (glean). No hand out. But a provision that would stab through the heart of most greedy @#$^|]$ who would sell their own mother into sex slavery to support their livelihood.

And we (yes me too) followed these bozos and voted the way they said would be best for everybody... which when I think back on it I am sickened by the fact that I voted against the well being of my own family so some silver spoon could have a 12th mansion somewhere posh in the world.

"The private sector creates jobs..." they told us... only the left off the rest of the statement... "creates jobs... overseas."

I don't know who is more stupid... those who tore down the protection at the borders for American labor and small business... or we who keep reelecting them to run what's left of the nation.

Gingrich chaired NAFTA and GATT. Rather than impeach and imprison him, we let him run for POTUS. And he nearly got the GOP nomination.

Then comes the next point. People I have worked with in the apologetics mission field who I fought JW's and Mormons with elbow to elbow with still see nothing wrong with voting for an LDS President of the formerly Christian United States of America.

Let that hang out there for a moment in cyber space as we all consider just how much we have sold our souls to the devil to keep our lifestyles of foremost importance.

I sound the alarm in the town I live over the invasion of LDS and JW's and no one raises an eyebrow. No one signs up to accompany me door to door undoing the damage the cults have done with their false form of Christianity.

People can't be bothered.

They don't want to rock the boat.

They don't want to stop doing their thing to put out the spiritual conflagration about to erupt in their small town.

I'm going to put the period there. My intense frustration is showing.

[Guest shiloh357]

OK, what O'Reilly said was, "Do you know why Jesus was killed by the Romans?"

So he wasn't saying this is why Jesus "lay down His life," nor why the Sanhedrin sought His death, but rather why the Romans would have arrested and charged Him.

So, I don't think he was being heretical in this regard.

Whether he's being accurate, I don't know. Scripture tells us what charge the Sanhedrin brought before Pilate, but it doesn't state how they got the Roman soldiers to arrest Jesus in the first place.

The Sanhedrin had to bring Jesus to Pilate and make Him out to be an enemy of the state. They could have stoned Jesus, but the feared the people because the people saw Jesus as a prophet.

They threatened Pilate. What I learned was that Pilate's career was hanging from a thread. Being assigned as a procurator over Judea was not a promotion. It was the last chance before losing his career and possibly exile. There is a very strong tradition that Pilate was finally sent out to remote outpost in what is now Switzerland because of he botched.the handling of a Samaritan uprising. It was in Switzerland that it is said he committed suicide and they have mountain named after him in Switzerland.